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    The Extended Questionnaire v0.2
    Tell me about yourself.

    I'm a poet

    What do you study or do for a living? How did you come to do that? What do you like or dislike about it?


    I have no plans on ever going to college as I don't need it to support any of my ambitions in life. I write a lot. Poetry, stories, to-do-lists, and ideas that I will develop in the future. For money, I've been bouncing from job to job in order to get money to pursue my real dreams.

    What are your values, and why?

    Perspective: I really dislike when people don't look at things through a different lens since I tend to do this automatically. When I meet someone else who does the same thing, I feel so relieved.

    Love: I believe that everyone has a "true love" in life that'll make them complete. Whether that be art, science, or another person, you must find it. Other people call it passion I call it love. You give yourself to your passions, your "love" gives back as well.

    What else do you do on a daily basis? What are your interests and hobbies? Why do you
    do them?


    I read up on a lot of historical figures and random facts. If I'm not doing one of those things, I'm listening to music. I am very interested in writing and figures who altered the course of history either positively or negatively.

    Describe your relations with family and friends. What do you like and dislike about them?

    They see me as extremely intelligent and kind, but distant. I have been called an elitist and narcissistic on occasions because I don't like doing "small" work. They often tell me that they know nothing about my motives or if my loyalties lie with them. I dislike that they question me on those things.

    What do you look for in friends? In romantic relationships?

    I don't really know that answer to be honest. I kind of become friends with people without realizing it. I don't really have a group, I just bounce to different people depending on how I'm feeling. They could be nerds, jocks, cheerleaders, class clowns, or rebels. For some reason, I have a calming effect on others and they open up to me. I look for a girl who has a fire for life burning within her and a giant heart. That's about it.

    What conflicts have you encountered recently with other people? Why did they happen? Which kinds seem to happen on a regular basis?

    People see me as a cold wannabe aristocrat one second and a loving, inspiring individual the next. It happens because I do like making things fun for everyone, but when I'm around too many people with different views, I don't know how to make it fun for everyone without stepping on toes so I take a neutral stance.

    How would your friends describe you?

    Funny, moody, intelligent, weird, and anxious

    What do people generally see as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

    My intelligence and ability to get people to trust me is often brought up. I like that I'm a creative and kind person.

    What are your weaknesses? What criticism do you often face from others? What do you dislike about yourself?

    I am very unsure of my abilities to actually execute my goals in the way that I envision them. I simultaneously have the most outward confidence a person could have while I'm internally stressed. People hate when I correct their flawed logic or bring up what could go wrong in a situation.

    In what areas of life can you manage well on your own? In what areas of your life would you like help?

    I can manage myself and others pretty well. I tend to have problems with keeping my environments taken care of.

    What things do you find to be a chore? What things do you enjoy more than others?

    Cleaning is my enemy. I enjoy talking with people about their dreams and aspirations or exchanging ideas on how to change the world.

    What goals, aspirations, or plans do you have for the future? How did you come to have them?

    I want to become a writer of great fame like how Truman Capote was for his time. I've always read and something about an author seems so much more authentic to me than any other creative career. I would also like to adopt kids because I was in the foster care system and know how that treats young people, so I would like to help some kids get their head up.

    If you had enough money to live comfortably for the rest of your life without working, what would you do with your time?

    I would become a politician for the people.

    What traits do you find endearing that others might dislike? What traits are considered positive/neutral by others but tend to annoy you?

    I like people who are a bit abrasive for some reason, even though I hate when they use it against me. I hate when people advocate doing something because "that's the way it's supposed to be done." If I see a way to cut corners and retain the good parts, I'll do it that way.

    What kinds of things do you do to manage and/or beautify your environment (your room, your house, etc.)? What do you think of daily chores?

    I hang up posters of my role models and have my "nice" things sitting out for everyone to see.

    How do you behave around strangers?

    I'm either a quiet observer or the guy trying to bring them into my circle. I always show respect like smiling or saying hi.

    How do you react to conflict? What do you do if somebody insults or attacks you?

    If their my friend, I may confront them head on, but most of the times I respond with biting sarcasm and piercing humor. If I don't know them, I'll likely ignore it or play it cool.

    What is one common misconception that people have? Explain why it is wrong.

    A lot of people seem to believe that the world is black or white when it's really always been a grayish color. While some things can be seen as bad or good like rape for instance, most things fall in an area of ambiguity that can't be logically explained as bad or good.

    What did you do last Friday?

    Had a barbecue with some friends

    What is your biggest accomplishment?

    I personally helped about 14 people graduate High School which was no easy task since I was also a senior at that time.

    What is something you regret?

    There was this girl who I fell in love with but never pursued because I was afraid that she didn't like me. Even though she gave me lots of signals. I also knew her ex from mutual friends which made me scared to ask her out because I wasn't sure what others would think of the relationship.

    Who do you admire, and why?

    I adore John Lennon because he stood up for what he believed in and was at the head of an entire generation. His music never fails to inspire me and is what made me want to change the world in my own way. I want to become his spiritual successor. (Yes, I know about the whole Cynthia Lennon and the beatings, but it's more about the idea of him as a person than the reality.)

    What's been on your mind? Has anything been worrying or concerning you? What problems have you encountered lately?

    If my absolute faith in my destiny is justified or if I'm delusional and will just end up dying alone and a nobody. That's what always comes into my head when I'm working at my craft.

    What are your religious or spiritual beliefs and why do you hold them?

    I believe in a higher power, but not as the three great religions pose it as. I see God as a sort of energy that just permeates throughout everything and everyone.

    What are your political beliefs, and why? To what extent do you care about politics?

    I would say I'm a Libertarian because I see that as the only logically and socially choice. I see the major parties as leaning too far to one side when what we really need is moderation. I care deeply about politics and know a lot about historical and modern politics.

    Would you ever be interested in starting a business? Why or why not? What role would you play in it? What kind of business would it be?

    I've always been very interested in starting a business because I don't like working for other people. I would like to be the visionary leader who maps out the journey and motivates the people while letting someone else steer the ship.

    What kind of work environment do you prefer? What do you look for in a job?

    I prefer something where theirs new information coming in constantly so it doesn't grow stagnant. I look for a job that allows me to help people and be creative.

    What is or was your favorite school subject and why?

    English because I've always had an affinity for writing and manipulating words to my advantage. The writing assignments were always pretty vague and allowed ample space to flex my creative muscles.

    How do you approach responsibility? What do you tend to expect of others?

    I am responsible when it's for their people's well-being, but pretty relaxed when it comes to my own. I expect people to listen to my insights and constantly strive to improve themselves. They need to also help me when I need them since I always help them or at least listen to me rant without telling me it doesn't make sense.

    Where did you go on your most recent vacation? What did you do there? How did you like it and why?

    I have never been on vacation unfortunately.

    What were you like as a kid? How have you changed since you were a child?

    I was a quiet kid who was easy to talk to and often surrounded by friends who would shield me from others. Now, I'm a person who turns people who hate me into friends after sitting with them for 10 minutes. I adapt to whatever environment I am in and am pretty sure that many people have alternate views on me.

    What was your high school experience like?

    Got along with pretty much everyone, but often ditched classes so I could hang out with friends. Pretty well-known around school for my fashion sense and intelligence.

    Talk about a significant event from your life.

    Can't think of one

    Do you like kids? Why or why not?

    I love kids. Just not for longer than 5 hours or so. It's nice to talk with them about their thoughts and perspectives on the world, but soon their irrational logic and emotions kick in and start to ruin things. I also don't like the impulsiveness that some children show.

    If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

    That the learn to accept themselves and are shown all sides of a subject. I would like to home school them so they can learn more easily pursue their passions without being swallowed by a inefficient system.

    Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

    I over analyze where I went wrong and that often leads to me being down. Never sticks around for longer than a day though. If people express disappointment in me, that also makes me feel horrible.

    What do you do if you're not getting what you want? What approach do you use?

    A few times when I was younger, I would manipulate their feelings to get what I wanted.

    What is the purpose of life? What do you find personally meaningful in life?

    The purpose of life is whatever you make it. My purpose is to be a lighthouse that guides other people who are lost at sea.

    How do you dress or manage your appearance?

    I 'm really into the grunge/punk look. I rotate between that and dressing up in high-class suits and fashion.



    Well, that was much longer than I thought it would be. Hope someone reads it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodaksa View Post
    Tell me about yourself.

    I'm a poet
    IEI confirm.

    But seriously... I think IEI would fit well for you.

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    Se you have no trouble in human relations
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    As an Se-dominant?

    Could you elaborate more on what you mean by "you have no trouble in human relations"

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    Maybe she's implying SEE? Seems like Se-valuing person.

    I'm thinking IEI, too. Seems more Ti valuing than Te. Fe than Fi. I don't see a much a Se-leading person. Perhaps So/sx 9w8, with 4 and 6 in your enneagram tritype?

    You seem a charismatic person, somehow reminds me of a certain modern monk. Which type do you think you belong to?

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    ESI fits nicely

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    I suspected that I may be EIE, but it could very well be IEI. I may be both the most extroverted and introverted person that I know, depending on the time.

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    Id say you are young, and a girl.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Haha close

    I'm an 18 year old male

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mori View Post
    Maybe she's implying SEE? Seems like Se-valuing person.

    I'm thinking IEI, too. Seems more Ti valuing than Te. Fe than Fi. I don't see a much a Se-leading person. Perhaps So/sx 9w8, with 4 and 6 in your enneagram tritype?

    You seem a charismatic person, somehow reminds me of a certain modern monk. Which type do you think you belong to?
    And what monk do you mean?

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    After some research, IEI seems to fit, but I can still see it possibly being an EII. Any tips on distinguishing between the two?

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    IEE is closer than EII, though I was thinking ILI before all that aristocratic shit came up.

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    Strong Ni from wanting to be a poet and writer, good Fe from helping others and moderating the moods of groups, IEI from being a diplomat to someone who needs advice. There's lots more, but IEI. Might not have a preference for Ni or Fe subtypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodaksa View Post
    After some research, IEI seems to fit, but I can still see it possibly being an EII. Any tips on distinguishing between the two?
    I would not use this to ultimately decide though since there are a lot of crossover behaviors among NFs. It could be helpful. Welcome to the forum.

    http://www.sociotype.com/tools/type-comparison/IEI-EII

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    Nah, I had the same issue. It took some time to break it down and even now I'm constantly questioning my type. But for me, there are some safe indicators:

    1) Your perception: Ni vs. Ne
    "Types that value Ne prefer to try out an opportunity rather than consider all possible ways in which it could not work out. They pick a few options and stick with them, in contrast to introverted intuition Ni types who pick one option and continue to doubt that option." (For that reason, Ni types are fairly apprehensive and indecisive)
    At first, I had actively reflected my conscious trains of thoughts and categorized the functions afterwards. Ni is strongly focused on the future and often analyzes the past. Ne seems to be more focused on the present. For my part, decisions are always orientated to their future outcome.

    2) Check out your weaknesses:
    Every single time I did this test, I got IEI because I struggle with Ti and dislike Si.

    3) What kind of people do you find attractive?
    I'm kinda attracted by revolutionaries and goal-getters (Se). Like actions speak louder than words. Yeah, Dual attraction.
    In addition, I find my LII (Ne) friend intellectual stimulating but simultaneously annoying. Because it takes so much energy to explore all his ideas.
    I realized that I can identify Si types because I perceive those people as boring. In contrast, Ne types find Si types attracting.


    On "paper", you seem to be quite IEI. So congratulations :*
    It's a little bit short because I'm quite tired at the moment but I hope it helps you along. Ask me anything, if you've further questions. I spent so much time with this shit...
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    I'm definitely more attracted to people who manifest their dreams into reality. Between the example you put up there, I definitely use Ni over Ne.


    Another question: What would make the difference between EIE and IEI? I'm fairly sure that I use Fe, but those two types are tripping me up right now.

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    Self-Typing 101:

    Read each type profile.

    As you do so, make a list of things that fit.

    Once you have narrowed down your differential diagnosis, start thinking of why you may not be those types.

    The one you have the hardest time knocking down is probably your type.

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    My first impression: INFx, So/Sx 4w5 (469).

    I am leaning towards typing you as EII over IEI, but IEI is still a possibility.

    I'd advise you to check out descriptions of , , , and .

    Do you care more about Fi and Ne, or Ni and Fe stuff.
    And what do you express more on a regular basis.

    I am assuming you'll be able to relate to Fi and Ni, so if you have to choose, which one are you more like or value more: Ne or Fe.

    As I said, I am leaning towards typing you as EII (for now).
    For example, the fact you like to look up random facts is rather valuing, and your interest in historical figures reminds me of Delta (EII) as well.

    P.S: I guess I shouldn't rule out ESI as a possible typing. If you were ESI, you'd have to be a strong Fi subtype.
    If you can relate to Ni, Fi, Se, but not to Fe, Ti, Ne, then ESI is likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalist Pig View Post
    Self-Typing 101:

    Read each type profile.

    As you do so, make a list of things that fit.

    Once you have narrowed down your differential diagnosis, start thinking of why you may not be those types.

    The one you have the hardest time knocking down is probably your type.
    The question is, which type profiles are the ones to recommend

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    ILE sounds good
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I'd say that I relate to Ni and Fe more than Fi and Ne. My morality is far more situational than it is solid. I'm really a different person depending on who I am hanging out with at the time.

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    Maybe we should take another perspective. According to wikisocion, every type has some common social rolls:



    • IEI - inwardly apprehensive but believes in a positive resolution:


    1. The poet who becomes enamored of expressing his idiosyncratic vision of life, taking no interest in the quotidian affairs of man.
    2. The survivor who, by maintaining good relations with all factions simultaneously, always survives political or corporate upheavals.
    3. The good-natured tag-along who likes to be attached to groups and provides constant comic relief.




      • EII - follows humane ideals, leaving the struggle for survival for an artificial world of idealized relations:

    1. The person who is always exemplary and perfect in all he or she does, but is far more focused on achieving his internal ideal of perfection than achieving more concrete goals in life.
    2. The self-sacrificing martyr who hasn't found protection and refuge in life, and becomes the servant of a failing and hopeless cause.



    In addition, a list of the Duals (people that your type finds in general attractive):


    • SLE - ensures victory in the most difficult and urgent situations:


    1. The alpha male (or female) who is constantly preoccupied with his territory and social status, threats to that territory, and making sure everyone recognizes his leadership and status.
    2. The challenger or revolutionary who rejects existing authority and organizational structures and tries to overturn them and establish his own system, or simply overturn them for fun without putting anything else in their place.
    3. The rogue artist who revels in his or her own naughtiness, likes to shock and appall audiences, and doesn't take his own work too seriously.



    • LSE - overworks, exhausts the reserves of manpower through work, becomes fixated:


    1. The social protestor who campaigns against deceit, mismanagement, injustice, or disorder in society, without necessarily offering a clear solution.
    2. The busy worker bee who spends considerable effort on the quotidian details of work, while neglecting the "big picture".






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    Going by this post, I would most certainly say that I'm IEI over EII

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    If I were an IEI, is it possible to sometimes ignore my Fe and just use Ti to analyze everything or does that just not work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodaksa View Post
    If I were an IEI, is it possible to sometimes ignore my Fe and just use Ti to analyze everything or does that just not work?
    Yes but I would not call it ignoring Fe. A lot of it also depends on intelligence, I imagine. I don't see an issue between your answers and IEI. If you have narrowed it down to a couple of types you have won more than half the battle. The rest should come relatively easy.

    as a mobilizing (6th) function (SEI and IEI)

    The individual seeks clarity in his system of beliefs and understanding and enjoys entertaining new concepts and being included in philosophical discussions where new concepts and systems of thought are introduced. He is uncertain of the logical clarity backing his actions, and thus seeks external assistance in attaining a degree of reasonable competence in this realm. Structure is sought as more of a means to an end, a background guide to facilitate the growth of the individual's main goal.

    Introverted Logic (Ti, Ti)

    IEIs often have a keen interest in interpreting their surroundings in terms of logical categories. They may be drawn to descriptive logical systems and models, which ground IEIs' oft-scattered thought processes and help them to focus on somewhat more tangible ideas. IEIs' often exhibit a tendency to organize their thoughts in a deliberate, methodical manner -- though they rarely are inclined to regiment their lives in this way, their ideas are often subject to systemic associations, sometimes extensively so.


    IEIs may tend to brood and dubitate over logical categories rather than generate their own; their intellectual musings are often more observational, causal, and open-ended than those of Ti ego types. IEIs' insights are highly internal, and frequently prove difficult to disambiguate and elucidate properly. They may be inclined to circumlocutory tangents and lengthy illustrations that fail to address the intended point completely, sometimes presenting information in an overly vague and ambiguous manner. Many IEIs do not naturally think in a structured fashion, and the introduction of clarity and consistency helps to organize and refocus their jumbled cogitations.


    Many IEIs suffer from hesitation and uncertainty about the ultimate accuracy of their views. They also may be inclined to assimilate information indiscriminately from an eclectic and sometimes unreliable range of sources, which can in the long run serve to further their confusion. They appreciate a sense of certainty in others; they may appreciate the unfailing assuredness of the beliefs of their SLE duals, whose tenacity and confidence free them from their plaguing doubts.

    Descriptions of the Strong Functions:

    Ni Program function
    . Introversion of IEI's intuition dictates that his consciousness is submerged in modeling of processes of time. His thoughts sail, flow, easily going forward and backwards in time. In contrast to ILI, the IEI is focused on ethics, and therefore he is less concerned with the problems of the material world and production; his interests lie in the development of people's emotions, relations, and potential.

    He internally observes everything as in constant motion: children – run, adults – work, some actions are undertaken, rivers – flow, heavenly bodies – move in the sky… for the IEI, time constitutes a kind of aether into which everything is submerged. A dreamer and romantic, the IEI is easily separated from reality and taken by his thoughts into the land of images and insights, from which he derives enjoyment and meaning of his existence. He's drawn to literature containing elements of the fantastical and breathtaking adventures. He imagines himself participating together with heroes of the novels, giving himself up to periods of creative imaginings. His mind, as a rule, focuses on something that is sublime and elegant – he may think of a journey around the world aboard an ocean liner (alongside a refined public), of an alluring cottage with a fireplace and white piano, of beautiful transcendent love…

    However, the IEI is also able to sense the imminence of events, to catch the barely noticeable currents of attitudes and dynamics within society. He can feel the precise moment in time when action must be taken; mostly vividly he feels the imminence of crisis situations and danger, at which time he becomes very agitated and disturbed.

    He is adept at noticing people's characteristics, idiosyncrasies, abilities and potential, and is drawn towards capable individuals (sometimes for his own purposes). With respect to his own abilities and talents there is an internal, frequently secret, conviction that he exceeds others in his spiritual aristocratism, viewing himself as a member of an elite of humanity, but usually he does not openly demonstrate this perception.

    Introverted intuition in the leading bloc impedes him seeing himself from the outside. He finds it difficult to objectively evaluate his behavior, and is inclined to justify himself in everything. His inclination to distance himself from reality and difficulties in self-appraisal can lead to egocentrism and excessive submersion in his own world.

    Fe
    Implementation of the program
    . After he discovers the hidden patterns and undercurrents of the events, IEI attempts to emotionally influence people around him, in order to direct them to appropriate actions. He knows how work with people's moods and impressions to incite necessary reactions, but he does not accomplish this through force, but rather through persuasion, and sometimes with an emotional surge that signals to others that he will perish as a brittle, delicate entity if help does not arrive and his requests are not fulfilled! He finds it difficult to enact the necessary measures himself – pragmatic activity is not his strongest suit – therefore he tries to orient others around him to take action. IEI is easily inspired in favorable climate, but also very easy to offend – sometimes a negative intonation or reproachful gaze is all that is needed to put him into negative mood for the rest of the day.

    He is confident in his correctness, and if those that surround him do not react to his signals and fail to follow through with necessary actions, IEI’s exasperation and emotional fervor can reach such a degree that, for a long period of time he will not calm down, and continue to ardently try to prove his point to all.

    He enjoys being in center of attention when in the company of familiar to him people. Knows how to behave himself appropriately – to smile, to give a compliment, to support another’s remark, to be polite and accommodating.

    If IEI enters a period of melancholy and disappointment, and this is not a rare occurrence, he will then isolate himself. When the dark period is over, he will once again emerge bright and alert, with positive expectations of the future and of his life. If he is in luck and finds himself in a loving and supportive atmosphere, his best qualities are revealed: the ability to be compassionate and to provide moral support. Being keenly perceptive of the moods of people around him, he – when in elated spirits – is ready to offer warmth and sympathy.

    Possessing high impressionability, the IEI sensitively responds to all forms of art. He especially loves music and poetry, sometimes creates his own artwork, writes music and stories. He enjoys attending concerts and art exhibits, manifests natural literary gift.


    Descriptions of the Weak Functions:

    Te
    Painful function
    . Distancing into the realm of his images and contemplations helps the IEI to hide from reality that often proves to be too harsh and cruel for him.

    His professional activity and productivity are unpredictable, since his capacity for work highly depends on his internal state: short flashes of energetic activity alternate with periods of prolonged inaction. As a rule, he his energy drive is lowered, and he therefore he finds it difficult to continuously exert himself. The inherent to him asthenia – perceived weakness, exhaustion, and low energy – is frequently compensated for by the need for a prolonged night sleep. For this very reason, without the necessary moral support, he frequently finds himself at a lower social position than would correspond with his abilities. Thus IEI is prone to regard energetic people, whom hold a higher social status, with a secret sense of envy, to consider that life has wronged him, and, involuntarily trying to justify himself, he seeks external factors that could be faulted for his misfortunes. Meanwhile, he comforts himself in the fact that his high sensitivity and brittleness of psyche, refinement of his principles and ideals, do not permit him to act by the same methods as others. Thus, he justifies his own passivity by viewing himself above the surrounding world, thereby psychologically shielding himself. He finds it difficult to accept responsibility for everything that happens to him. He prefers to lay responsibility on external factors, especially if things are going badly. IEI rarely takes up routine work of any kind, and if he does he may try to shirk from it and carry it out negligently.

    Si – Role function.
    In everything that concerns his health and appearance, IEI tries not to appear worse than others, to adhere to the same standards that exist in society. It should be noted, that he has an innate proclivity to dress in good taste, with elegance and refinement, even if his financial situation is modest. The female IEI can arrive an hour late, but will show up in great form, in an elegant dress with tastefully selected accessories (giving preference to darker tones of clothing rather than bright and colorful).

    IEIs do not invest a lot of effort into managing their finances. He may overspend or save money without knowing what to do with it. Often IEI cannot resist purchasing beautiful and elegant things that do not have any utilitarian purposes, even if his finances do not suffice; it is difficult for him to concern with something as prosaic as money, when it is desirable to amuse himself by any means possible.

    IEI often is a follower or an individualist and rarely a leader. Favorable conditions for his activities – a clear-cut regulation of his actions, preferably, in some creative sphere. He finds it difficult to manifest initiative, to conflict with others, thus he often prefers to go with the flow abiding by the norms of the society in which he lives.


    IEI at Work and at Home:

    Variable and indecisive, not keen on taking responsibility, not only for others but also for himself, IEI prefers not to occupy leadership positions. If, nevertheless, fate forces him into such a position he can successfully manage strategic tasks. He tactfully interacts with his subordinates, uses emotions to successfully influence those around him, and himself seeks milder relations. It is better if he is put in charge of a small group.

    For IEI love and family are significant values in his life. He is capable of feeling deeply for others; for years he may remember and sympathize with his significant other even if he has been rejected. Frequently in his imagination he endows another with romantic qualities, which that person in reality may not possess.

    At home, he finds it difficult to occupy himself with domestic tasks – this is his enemy number one. If you strictly and scrupulously demand that he carries out his domestic responsibilities, in this manner you will not attain anything besides embitteredness; in such cases he may even provoke fights and arguments. In order to resolve such issues in an acceptable manner, IEI attempts to shift the chores onto others, often by demonstrating his helplessness so that others aids him; for this purpose he tries to influence weak points of other people. When this doesn't succeed, IEI may unexpectedly conduct himself in a sharp and harsh manner, although with unfamiliar people he remains invariably civil and gentle. Only in special cases, such as when IEI experiences the feeling of love towards his significant other, he can mobilize his internal forces and invest sufficient energy to carry out the burden of domestic concerns on his own volition.

    IEI loves to host guests at his home, tries to prepare a beautifully arranged table – for him this is more important than food itself, for the celebratory meal is merely viewed as a means of pleasant contact and conversation. No matter what he is occupied by, in regards to others, he will introduce the element of fantasy: the reception of guests, instructions, handicraft… IEI is not interested in treating himself in the same lavish manner – he will only do it for enjoyment of others. For example, he rarely prepares a fine meal for himself and feels satisfied with a dinner consisting of bread and jam (if it happens to be immediately available in the refrigerator).


    Summary of functions:

    1. The dreamer and romantic, IEI is easily separated from reality, knows how to sense events, to notice their dynamics. He sees the concealed potential within people, his inner essence, is capable of proposing new ideas in areas of interest.

    2. Knows how to influence the moods of others, to cause reactions deemed necessary by method of an “emotional surge”, but not by pressure, he readily manifests warmth and participation. Loves to speak about the moral problems, about the norms of behavior, he calls those near to him to acknowledge his observations.

    3. His fitness for work is unpredictable as it depends exclusively on his mood. He frequently possess low energy and therefore finds it difficult to force himself to work. Formal hierarchy, structure, organizing, systematization … all these only serve to irritate and tire him, he doesn’t see the “living soul” in these, which is necessary to motivate him.

    4. He ably feels the beauty, harmony, and commensurability in the world, but badly manages practical tasks; poor at performing repetitive chores and following precise procedures; may overspend money and look down on what he deems as "penny-pinching".


    Professional Assessment:

    The most favorable work for the IEI can be found in the realm of humanitarian activity. This can be work in music, literature, art studies, work in the printed press, journalism, conducting television and radio transmissions and interviews. Sometimes representatives of this type are found successfully working in the field of mathematics.

    Possible careers:

    • Counselor / Psychologist
    • Doctor / Psychiatrist
    • Nutritionist / Alternative Health Care Practitioner
    • Professor / Teacher
    • Pharmacist / Chemist / Biologist / Physicist / Mathematician
    • Sociologist / Political Scientist / Anthropologist
    • Job Analyst / Career Counselor / Organizational Consultant
    • Editor / Translator / Novelist / Poet / Playwright
    • Musician / Photographer
    • Architect / Graphic Designer
    • Social Worker
    • Environmental Lawyer
    • Clergy / Religious Work
    • Speech Pathologist / Audiologist
    • Librarian



    Relations:
    Potentially Favorable:
    SLE (ESTp), LSI (ISTj), EIE (ENFj), SEE (ESFp), ILE (ENTp), LII (INTj), ESI (ISFj), IEE (ENFp)
    Potentially Adverse:
    LSE (ESTj), LIE (ENTj), ESE (ESFj), SLI (ISTp)


    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    I'd suggest ILE fwiw
    "Inasmuch as it is nothing but pure communicability, every face, even the most noble and beautiful, is always suspended on the edge of an abyss"

    They asked the fox, "Who's your witness?" The fox said, "My tail!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    ILE sounds good
    Lol how do you go from Se/Fi to the exact opposite?

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    Ok, so I was on Reddit and I posted some journals entries of mine and some people say they saw Fi while others didn't. Could you guys possibly give me a second opinion?

    Here are the entries:

    You only meet the authentic me if we're close, but I do kinda have a shell. I smile and laugh a lot at awkward or inappropriate times. I'm a helpless romantic. I trip in mid-air, walking upstairs, and over cracks. While it's difficult to offend me, it's easy to make me feel bad when about things that matter to me. I hate telling people about my past or my problems. They don't need to worry about me. I was made to listen to others and worry about them. And while I'm awfully clumsy and strange, I've got a feeling that I'm worth it.

    To be honest, I believe that I'm a genius and that God put me on this planet so I could make an impact not seen since The Beatles in the 60s. There simply is no other way that my life could unfold. I've thought or known this for many years. If I bet all of my dreams on one thing, that one thing would be my inevitable creation of an immortal legacy. I refuse to just roll over and accept a mediocre legacy funded by mediocre wages. I will fight tooth and nail to reach my ideals, to watch them be realized in the outside world. Success is very important to me as well as art, these two things are what help me create great works ad think of unique ideas. I will e the th door that helps people connect with themselves and one another. I will help finish what all the great leaders started: a way to connect people for the greater good once-and-for-all.

    My whole life has been a series of failures with brief moments of victory. All my teachers and even my family would question all of my decisions in life. "Why don't you become a scholar or at least do your homework? Your such a waste of potential." These simple words have always gotten to me somehow, as if they're armor piercing rounds and I'm shirtless cannon fodder. I am no fucking waste of space, I am a creative genius. Just because I refuse to play doesn't mean that I don't realize that this is all a giant game. The ones who trade in their dreams for a paycheck are the real "wastes of potential." People believe that we must give up some of our so we can have a functional society. The truth is, society is a MAN-MADE being which means we need to take away some of societies powers to have functional people. If a person is always told that they need a crutch, they'll never try walking on their own. Thus, they never realize they can jump to the stars.


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    Everything here sounds very stereotypically IEI. Lots of mentioning of Beta NF type things like destiny, history, politics, guiding people. Less energetic then EIE. Digging the punk look is also extremely stereotypical of IEIs.

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