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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    I wondered when i asked that question whether it's an epistemological concern, but i thank you for your answer as I still try to see from my own perspective what the theory hinges on
    Just be aware that on this site, I'm likely viewed by many as totally out to lunch, confusing the issues and or preaching heresy. I do think that Socionics has classified types quite well but implying that information elements translate directly to actual functionality would be incorrect. One needs to look at a finer granularity and likely have a different mindset to determine what processes actually produce the information elements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Just be aware that on this site, I'm likely viewed by many as totally out to lunch, confusing the issues and or preaching heresy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    I do think that Socionics has classified types quite well but implying that information elements translate directly to actual functionality would be incorrect.

    I somewhat agree but not entirely

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post

    One needs to look at a finer granularity and likely have a different mindset to determine what processes actually produce the information elements.

    a.k.a. I/O
    You're asking for a study that can't be done yet
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    .....You're asking for a study that can't be done yet
    I'm not asking but I'm certain that it wouldn't be rocket science; there might be an undergraduate paper or two out of it. However, psychology may not be the best field for the task.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Just be aware that on this site, I'm likely viewed by many as totally out to lunch, confusing the issues and or preaching heresy. I do think that Socionics has classified types quite well but implying that information elements translate directly to actual functionality would be incorrect. One needs to look at a finer granularity and likely have a different mindset to determine what processes actually produce the information elements.

    a.k.a. I/O
    You don't sound heretic enough to me

    Are you I/O from Ganin's site? I used to post them sometimes as 'felafel'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    You don't sound heretic enough to me

    Are you I/O from Ganin's site? I used to post them sometimes as 'felafel'
    Yes, I'm that I/O. Isn't an engineer writing on a Socionics site is akin to a Buddhist trying to advise the Vatican? Ganin seemed to invite outsider opinion - perhaps similarly to Pope Francis; too bad his site is inactive.

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