What would each type do if... 2.0 Eidtion

[Cosmic Teapot]

We are having a fresh start and you're welcome to be creative


Alternative 1:

Imagine you are 11 years old and come home from school early.
You find out that your parents dismantled all the furniture in your bedroom, and threw away many your belongings, to experiment with their new ideas for your room.

You are angry and demand that they put everything back together.
They don't, and leave you alone knowing that you are to small and not strong enough to undo anything by sheer force, because it took two adults to get this far.
All you have is a screwdriver.



Alternative 2:

Your LSI professor, who mentally lives in a snowglobe, brutally shuts down your argument in front of 50 people.
You've obviously hurt you prof's ego.
All eyes are on you.


What would each type do?


Other if-stories are highly appreciated

[Chae]

As for the LSI scenario - as an IEE I'd have a multi-method approach to reinforce my standpoint. I would keep arguing to convince everyone first. If that doesn't work: find a middle ground. If that doesn't work: Imitate an EIE.

[ClownsandEntropy]

We are having a fresh start and you're welcome to be creative


Alternative 1:

Imagine you are 11 years old and come home from school early.
You find out that your parents dismantled all the furniture in your bedroom, and threw away many your belongings, to experiment with their new ideas for your room.

You are angry and demand that they put everything back together.
They don't, and leave you alone knowing that you are to small and not strong enough to undo anything by sheer force, because it took two adults to get this far.
All you have is a screwdriver.



Alternative 2:

Your LSI professor, who mentally lives in a snowglobe, brutally shuts down your argument in front of 50 people.
You've obviously hurt you prof's ego.
All eyes are on you.


What would each type do?


Other if-stories are highly appreciated

As an LII,

Situation 1: Cry*.

Situation 2. Sit down. Have revenge fantasies. Tell everyone what happened.

#SePolr

* I mean, I'm 11yo, I don't know how to do anything. My mum and dad always took care of me so this would be really out of the blue. My juvenile mind wouldn't have any plans. I also threw lots of tantrums as a kid, so that would probably be my default.

[Cosmic Teapot]

As for the LSI scenario - as an IEE I'd have a multi-method approach to reinforce my standpoint. I would keep arguing to convince everyone first. If that doesn't work: find a middle ground. If that doesn't work: Imitate an EIE.

Wow, now I see how IEE and LSI are conflictors. The prof I was thinking about is not as nice as you. She would try to discredit you and play the "I have a doctor title I am better than you" game.


Very good tactic though. I'm convinced.

But how exactly would you imitate an EIE? All I can imagine is an EIE telling the prof to go f herself shakespeare-wise.


P.S. I have a spelling error in the thread title. Not proud of myself today.

[Cosmic Teapot]

As an LII,

Situation 1: Cry*.

Situation 2. Sit down. Have revenge fantasies. Tell everyone what happened.

#SePolr

* I mean, I'm 11yo, I don't know how to do anything. My mum and dad always took care of me so this would be really out of the blue. My juvenile mind wouldn't have any plans. I also threw lots of tantrums as a kid, so that would probably be my default.

lol. thanks for that

[Exodus]

Ooh this is fun.

Alternative 2:

Your LSI professor, who mentally lives in a snowglobe, brutally shuts down your argument in front of 50 people.
You've obviously hurt you prof's ego.
All eyes are on you.

What would each type do?

LSI: Argue back, literally just repeat what you said before in slightly different words. Go back and forth until class ends or the professor shuts you down.
LII: Argue back -- you will convince no one even though you are right
EIE, IEI: Argue but also become somewhat disoriented. Give a speech for dramatic effect. You want to win but also look cool doing it.
ILE: keep arguing but also make jokes and catch the prof off-guard with your cavalier attitude
SEI: make a joke or sheepishly acknowledge the professor's argument
ESE: try to reconcile with the professor, or pretend like you were saying the same thing after all.
SLE: Depends on how mad they are. They could joke around, argue back, and/or issue some bombastic statements.
IEE: roll your eyes but secretly get mad at him and never talk to him again
EII: go home and cry
ESI, SEE: get mad and/or never talk to the prof again but also trash him to other students in the class
LIE: start listing facts for 30 minutes or until the professor cuts you off. Make sure to call the professor stupid at least three times.
ILI: glibly cut off the professor's line of argument but in a way that leaves your own views even less clear than before.
SLI: smile and/or murmur something unintelligible before reburying your nose in your books.
LSE: Smile, be visibly unaffected by what the professor said and say something else that is nonsensical / only tangentially related to the topic.

[Cosmic Teapot]

Ooh this is fun.



LSI: Argue back, literally just repeat what you said before in slightly different words. Go back and forth until class ends or the professor shuts you down.
LII: Argue back -- you will convince no one even though you are right
EIE, IEI: Argue but also become somewhat disoriented. Give a speech for dramatic effect. You want to win but also look cool doing it.
ILE: keep arguing but also make jokes and catch the prof off-guard with your cavalier attitude
SEI: make a joke or sheepishly acknowledge the professor's argument
ESE: try to reconcile with the professor, or pretend like you were saying the same thing after all.
SLE: Depends on how mad they are. They could joke around, argue back, and/or issue some bombastic statements.
IEE: roll your eyes but secretly get mad at him and never talk to him again
EII: go home and cry
ESI, SEE: get mad and/or never talk to the prof again but also trash him to other students in the class
LIE: start listing facts for 30 minutes or until the professor cuts you off. Make sure to call the professor stupid at least three times.
ILI: glibly cut off the professor's line of argument but in a way that leaves your own views even less clear than before.
SLI: smile and/or murmur something unintelligible before reburying your nose in your books.
LSE: Smile, be visibly unaffected by what the professor said and say something else that is nonsensical / only tangentially related to the topic.

wow

I would pay to see that.

[Saoirse]

EII: go home and cry

LOL. I vouch for this. My instinct would be that I was in the wrong (since I hurt the prof's feelings, not because my argument was literally factually or logically wrong), and I would be sad that my classmates might be thinking that I'm self-centered or inconsiderate. I wouldn't cry at home, necessarily, but I would definitely spend way more time than necessary thinking about it and probably lamenting about it to my friends. I've also often been on the receiving end of an EII's laments regarding such situations.

[The Exception]

Scenario 1:
I would be really tempted to get even and break their things because its only 'fair', but because I'm just an 11 year old child, I would likely get grounded or punished in some way for that. So I would probably just cry instead, complaining about how unfair things are. Then later, I'd devise some ways to hide some of my things so the situation wouldn't happen again.

Scenario 2:
A combination of defending my viewpoint and trashing the professor outside of class. Maybe cry after class if I felt humiliated enough.

[Adam Strange]

Ooh this is fun.



LSI: Argue back, literally just repeat what you said before in slightly different words. Go back and forth until class ends or the professor shuts you down.
LII: Argue back -- you will convince no one even though you are right
EIE, IEI: Argue but also become somewhat disoriented. Give a speech for dramatic effect. You want to win but also look cool doing it.
ILE: keep arguing but also make jokes and catch the prof off-guard with your cavalier attitude
SEI: make a joke or sheepishly acknowledge the professor's argument
ESE: try to reconcile with the professor, or pretend like you were saying the same thing after all.
SLE: Depends on how mad they are. They could joke around, argue back, and/or issue some bombastic statements.
IEE: roll your eyes but secretly get mad at him and never talk to him again
EII: go home and cry
ESI, SEE: get mad and/or never talk to the prof again but also trash him to other students in the class
LIE: start listing facts for 30 minutes or until the professor cuts you off. Make sure to call the professor stupid at least three times.
ILI: glibly cut off the professor's line of argument but in a way that leaves your own views even less clear than before.
SLI: smile and/or murmur something unintelligible before reburying your nose in your books.
LSE: Smile, be visibly unaffected by what the professor said and say something else that is nonsensical / only tangentially related to the topic.

This is brilliant. The one for the LIE is pretty true, too. I would argue with facts, and I, personally, would try not to call the professor stupid, but it might come through anyway.

A lot of those professors have been in the groove all their lives, probably because they are afraid to try to get a job in the real world. The titles that they award to themselves add arrogance to this insecurity, which causes them to fight desperately over the most insignificant things.

In uni, we had to get our class choices approved every semester by our advisors. One semester, my regular advisor was on vacation, and in his stead was a washed up particle physicist whose career had come to nothing. He looked at my course choices, then at my grades, leaned back in his chair and said, "I'm not going to approve these classes. Looking at your grades, I can tell that you will never be a first class physicist."
I thought, WTF? and said, "It doesn't matter what you think. When I leave here, I have a job waiting for me, running my uncle's furniture factory."
He said, "Oh?" and leaned forward. "Well, in that case, I'll approve your course choices." The bastard.
My uncle didn't have a furniture factory. I made that up.

[ClownsandEntropy]

"It doesn't matter what you think. When I leave here, I have a job waiting for me, running my uncle's furniture factory."
He said, "Oh?" and leaned forward. "Well, in that case, I'll approve your course choices." The bastard.
My uncle didn't have a furniture factory. I made that up.

I don't get it. What difference did having a furniture factory make? This reads like a Russian play with lots of levels of reference and hidden meaning.

[Myst]

We are having a fresh start and you're welcome to be creative

Won't be creative, just real. Writing down my actual reactions.

Alternative 1:

Imagine you are 11 years old and come home from school early.
You find out that your parents dismantled all the furniture in your bedroom, and threw away many your belongings, to experiment with their new ideas for your room.

You are angry and demand that they put everything back together.
They don't, and leave you alone knowing that you are to small and not strong enough to undo anything by sheer force, because it took two adults to get this far.
All you have is a screwdriver.

I'd create a big scandal. Fucking with my belongings is something completely unacceptable to me. I'd try and get them to undo this as soon as possible.

Alternative 2:

Your LSI professor, who mentally lives in a snowglobe, brutally shuts down your argument in front of 50 people.
You've obviously hurt you prof's ego.
All eyes are on you.

Firstly, I would not necessarily think of it as "he has a hurt ego". Unless he's actually talking in that way, I would not assume.

I'd just argue back if for some reason I clearly already got into this argument. What @thehotelambush said for LSIs is exactly it. Though, re-reading, I would like to think that I can do more than just repeating the exact same thing in slightly different words. I can be capable of maneuvering a bit more than that, depending.

[epheme]

We are having a fresh start and you're welcome to be creative
Alternative 1:

Imagine you are 11 years old and come home from school early.
You find out that your parents dismantled all the furniture in your bedroom, and threw away many your belongings, to experiment with their new ideas for your room.

You are angry and demand that they put everything back together.
They don't, and leave you alone knowing that you are to small and not strong enough to undo anything by sheer force, because it took two adults to get this far.
All you have is a screwdriver.



Alternative 2:

Your LSI professor, who mentally lives in a snowglobe, brutally shuts down your argument in front of 50 people.
You've obviously hurt you prof's ego.
All eyes are on you.


What would each type do?


Other if-stories are highly appreciated

Situation 1: Run away in my indignation

Situation 2: I can't imagine arguing with my professor to begin with. If I had an alternative theory, I'd diplomatically bring it up, in order not to be rude, etc. If for whatever reason the above situation did come to fruition, I'd probably end up crying. Depending on how invested I was in this class/professor/argument, I'd probably end up seeking him after class to clarify the situation.

[Skepsis]

I would drink the screwdriver and point out to my parents that they didn't think I was too young to drink alcohol.

[Cosmic Teapot]

I would drink the screwdriver and point out to my parents that they didn't think I was too young to drink alcohol.

What I think I'm missing the joke because a screwdriver is a tool and you can't drink it unless you meld it with extremly high temperatures first.
Lost in translation?

[Adam Strange]

What I think I'm missing the joke because a screwdriver is a tool and you can't drink it unless you meld it with extremly high temperatures first.
Lost in translation?

A screwdriver is also the name of an alcoholic drink.

If you wanted to drink a metal screwdriver, you could dissolve it in acid, then add base to the liquid until it is neutral ph, and then drink it. But now you have heavy metal poisoning.

[Cosmic Teapot]

A screwdriver is also the name of an alcoholic drink.

If you wanted to drink a metal screwdriver, you could dissolve it in acid, then add base to the liquid until it is neutral ph, and then drink it. But now you have heavy metal poisoning.

What an efficient way to consume unhealthy amounts of metal. Pretty sure my iron deficiency would save me though.


@Eye eyE Screwdriver joke. Creative indeed!

[Cosmic Teapot]

Won't be creative, just real. Writing down my actual reactions.

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I'd create a big scandal. Fucking with my belongings is something completely unacceptable to me. I'd try and get them to undo this as soon as possible.

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Firstly, I would not necessarily think of it as "he has a hurt ego". Unless he's actually talking in that way, I would not assume.

I'd just argue back if for some reason I clearly already got into this argument. What @thehotelambush said for LSIs is exactly it. Though, re-reading, I would like to think that I can do more than just repeating the exact same thing in slightly different words. I can be capable of maneuvering a bit more than that, depending.

Exactly what I did (/would do). High five!

[chrys]

I tend to mirror emotions so in scenario 2 if his ego was hurt and was trying to shut me down I would see that as a good way to also be provacative with style. I'd probably try to use some humour or something to keep everyone interested and not seem just like a stubborn asshole who likes to hurt his teacher's ego. Wait what kind of topic is this? I'm pretty confident in how I approach social/ethical issues so even if I was wrong I could be okay sharing them, but with more objective matters I either would know or wouldn't know. The only reason I would argue is if I know what i'm talking about, therefore I'd have no problem shutting down the professor since I was arguing to begin with. I'd hate to keep arguing if the teacher was visibly hurt though... maybe I'd just end it with "I suppose... " and not say anything else.

[Cosmic Teapot]

I tend to mirror emotions so in scenario 2 if his ego was hurt and was trying to shut me down I would see that as a good way to also be provacative with style. I'd probably try to use some humour or something to keep everyone interested and not seem just like a stubborn asshole who likes to hurt his teacher's ego. Wait what kind of topic is this? I'm pretty confident in how I approach social/ethical issues so even if I was wrong I could be okay sharing them, but with more objective matters I either would know or wouldn't know. The only reason I would argue is if I know what i'm talking about, therefore I'd have no problem shutting down the professor since I was arguing to begin with. I'd hate to keep arguing if the teacher was visibly hurt though... maybe I'd just end it with "I suppose... " and not say anything else.

No specific topic.

That's really nice of you.