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    Default EIIs and sex :)

    How do other types find EII in the sack? What are the good, bad and ugly things that you have observed or experienced with EIIs when it comes to physical touch and sex ?

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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    Is it possible to generalize? You need a larger sample to say something about that It would be better to ask for specific experiences. @Adam Strange the type to have something to say here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Is it possible to generalize? You need a larger sample to say something about that It would be better to ask for specific experiences. @Adam Strange the type to have something to say here
    Very funny, @Chae. Very funny.

    But also very accurate. You are correct, I did plan to reply to the question of whether it is possible to make an accurate statement about how the types behave in bed.

    I believe it is, FWIW. I have dated two LSI's, years apart in time and age, and having sex with one was almost exactly, and I mean exactly, like having sex with the other. (It was awesome, if you are curious.) Preferences, moves, schedules, likes and dislikes, all the same.

    Now, as to the question of being judged "good in bed", that is very type-dependent, and I'm pretty sure it depends on the Caregiver-Infantile and Aggressor-Victim axis'. Match those, and you are good. Mismatch them, and you are wondering, "What is going on? What the hell is wrong here?"

    My LII (infantile) sister dated an EIE (victim) (Ti-dom meets Fe-dom) and loves him as a friend, and says he's terrible in bed. She married an LSE (caregiver) (Ti-dom meets Te-dom ) and says he's the best guy in bed that she's ever had, and she's had a few. Their lives out of bed are a disaster, though.

    I, an LIE (victim), married an SLI (caregiver) and believe me, having your socks folded is no substitute for sex.
    I've already discussed my LIE victim experience with the LSI aggressor. (Yes!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I believe it is, FWIW. I have dated two LSI's, years apart in time and age, and having sex with one was almost exactly, and I mean exactly, like having sex with the other. (It was awesome, if you are curious.) Preferences, moves, schedules, likes and dislikes, all the same.
    There are exactly 16 types of people on this planet with 16 types of sex styles. My experiences are vastly different than yours, I've had quite different experiences with identicals and it didnt always perfectly align with what socionics is teaching (sometimes it did, and sometimes their sexual persona was a total unexpected surprise). You really need to expand your sample.

    EII I've swiftly dated was very passive, seemed more victimy than anything else. We were totally sexually incompatible and that's what caused the break up. He had major problems asserting himself so I was forced to be the initiator, which is totally unatural for me. Sad, cause he was really adorable otherwise.

    EDIT: From many Delta ST guys I know, I'm sure many of them can rough a girl up and would love to. I'm not speaking from experience, so maybe all SLI's and LSE's indeed prefer folding girl's socks than having rough sex with her.

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    @Adam Strange cool, a particular EII appraisal or reasoning available?

    I have some similar guesswork. The EII experience also depends on subtype, enneagram, instincts, and many other non-typological stuff btw but that's obvious. 16/32 (with subtypes) sex styles only? That would be unrealistic (and also boring).

    EII-Ne E9 Sp/So would be a passive type, EII-Fi E1 Sp/Sx may be far more morally demanding, high standards. EII-Fi cp E6 Sx/Sp may be completely intense, you won't forget this one.

    EDIT: From many Delta ST guys I know, I'm sure many of them can rough a girl up and would love to. I'm not speaking from experience, so maybe all SLI's and LSE's indeed prefer folding girl's socks than having rough sex with her.
    @darya Kinky > rough for Delta, so it's folding socks while having sex /Eerie noises in the distance/ Free your imaginaaationnnn

    Si brings the pleasure, Te the execution. Execution of pleasure is what LSE does, pleasure to execute: SLI. Rough - more on the LSE side cause demonstrative but it's unvalued, SLI: softness and fine technique first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    @Adam Strange cool, a particular EII appraisal or reasoning available?
    I only know two EII's, and only one well. The one I know well is a secretary at work, and she's pretty terrific at her job and we get along great, professionally. However, I have zero sexual attraction for her, even though she's thin, dresses well, and is smart and attractive. It's an infantile-victim thing, I guess.

    She and I know each other pretty well, we go out to lunch a lot, and maybe because we will never have sex, I have a pretty good idea of what she likes. She is e2, and I think she likes to be dominated.
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    There's a huge difference between me having sex with someone I don't know well enough and having sex with someone I've been in a long term relationship with.

    I am extremely shy with men if I don't really know them and I fear doing something weird, or stupid so all the initiation is on them and tend to be more passive, rigid and tense at first.
    When I know someone well enough and I feel secure with them, then I have no problem with initiating it, no boundaries, no limits and I don't mind being the dominant one even if it's not totally natural to me. I usually tend to get pretty wild with sex whenever I get comfortable with the partener.


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    I've been called "a freak" and thanked on multiple occasions for "being so open-minded." I love being dominated and get off on psychological aspects rather than physical sensations.

    I don't think sexual compatibility is fully explained by the romance styles. My favorite experiences include ILIs, an LIE, (Victims) and an SEE (Aggressor), and my least favorite experiences include an SEI, an LSE, and an SLI (Caregivers).

    But I will admit my favorite experience ever was with an SLI. We didn't even fully have sex, but boy did our kinks line up perfectly. As @Chae said, kinky > rough, at least for this Delta.

    I guess like every kind of behavior, sexual styles are correlated with, but not perfectly predicted by, types.

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    Don't EII reproduce by fission or something?
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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