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    First impression (I've watched about 5 minutes): You look and act (physically) like an SLE, and you seem to think and do like an LIE.

    I'll have to pay more attention to this later. Maybe listen to the whole thing.

    Wait, it's running in the background, and I'm thinking more and more that you are SLE.

    At the 14 minute mark, I'm sure you are SLE.

    Welcome to the forum. You seem like a nice guy. The IEI's here should be pretty happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Thanks for the input! That's interesting, in what way do I seem to think like an LIE?
    Well, when I was in the University, I would drop out sometimes to earn money. I liked high-paying jobs, even if they were menial, because ...money. I also always saw myself as owning a business.

    But the evidence for SLE seems really overwhelming. I do think you are good at thinking. I really see a lot of similarities between us, but I've been accused of being SLE (and LSE, FWIW), because I have a lot of Se. I also like to work.

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    I also second SLE.

    Some things suggesting Se lead function:
    *Friends describe you as a bit 'impulsive' at times.
    *See self as physically strong person and also strong willpower
    *Very much a 'just do it' kind of person.
    *If someone physically hurt you, you responded with "beat the shit out of them."

    Fi PoLR:
    *Tendency to go too far with joking around, dislike it when others are offended easily
    *A chore to be diplomatic
    *Dislike people that seem to like everyone or are accepting of everyone since you realize there are evil people in the world. Seems like a rather beta ST attitude.

    Also Ni suggestive:
    *Need help with planning and thinking about the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Thank you for giving me examples and explaining how they relate to my type, it's really helpful. I'm not too sure about how the socionics eight function theory works out yet. It seems like socionics Fi and Fe is quiet different from the MBTI counterparts.
    You can read more about the theory here and here
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    Attaching the video works like this, click the film strip image in the post toolbar, you can enter the link.

    Result:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Thank you for giving me examples and explaining how they relate to my type, it's really helpful. I'm not too sure about how the socionics eight function theory works out yet. It seems like socionics Fi and Fe is quiet different from the MBTI counterparts.
    How do you type in MBTI?

    Glimpsed at video, nothing against beta ST so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    How do you type in MBTI?

    Glimpsed at video, nothing against beta ST so far
    Or against SLI really?

    Edit: I watched most of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Are you calling me a lazy bum?
    Maybe? You don't beat up girls do you...

    I don't think SLI are particularly lazy. What others call lazy I just think of as doing my own thing. hah

    Sometimes what people think of as Se lead is just anger management issues. My SLI brother in-law has irl trolled me past the breaking point of some people but I just gave it right back to him. He got angry when I used Fe (which I would exaggerate when we argued) before I got annoyed with him. But he actually does have anger management issues. According to my sister he can be insensitive but she is EII so her idea of insensitive and mine are a bit different.

    Seriously though I was just saying that some of your answers could fit just as well for a delta ST too. I have no problem with Beta ST for you. If you think SLE is the best fit after checking out the alternatives then go with that. There is only so much others can tell you from a 30 minute video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    I'd never hit a girl, and I was just being silly I actually get along well with SLIs. The SLIs I know are all a bit shy and cautious, and I feel like they are a bit more pragmatic than me in the sense that they all seem to be content with their lives and don't really have big dreams. I never really feel like I can settle down and just be ok with the way things are, there's always something that I'm chasing after. I see the job I have now as a temporary thing that I do to earn some money, I don't know what I'll do afterwards, but I sure as hell won't stay here for more than a few years. It's the same with many other things, I don't like the house I'm living in, I wanna get in better shape, I wish I could meet some new friends. Contrast this to the SLI I'm working with who feels more like he belongs here, he has a nice little house close to work, a stable relationship, a dog, and he hunts in the nearby forests, and he feels very local in general. I bet he wouldn't mind staying here for the rest of his life. This is my idea of what an SLI is, but maybe I'm confusing type traits with my personal generalisations of people, maybe it's more nuanced. I guess that I could just as easily be an SLI, because they are essentially the same type only with flipped E/I focus on the functions.

    Btw, how the hell did you meet jamed hetfield? Lol
    I knew you were being silly. hahah I think what you say here is important though. My brother in-law is similar to your coworker. He and my sister have the business, the dogs, the kid, the stability and I think he is very content with what he has. He has dreams of growing their business locally but I would say in general he is a simple man with simple desires. He does drive a HUGE truck with monster wheels. My sister and I both had to be lifted into. heh Not exactly a family car but they have one of those too. He does the hunting thing too. lol I think he has never lived further than 50 miles of where he was born and that is how he likes it.

    I met James because Lars was hooking up with my boyfriend's (at the time) mom whenever he was in town.

    I got into the music scene when I was really young and just found myself in circumstances where I was always meeting someone who knew someone and getting sucked into inner circles. That is how I ended up hanging out with a lot of musicians. Plus I ONLY dated, or had relationships, with guys in bands then. I was no victim in the getting sucked into inner circles. My friends and I plotted and schemed our way backstage many times for the more famous bands. The girl who introduced me to the most bands is an SLE. She is still a part of that world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    I have been all over the place in mbti, but I eventually settled for ISTP. I thought it fit pretty nicely until I started reading about socionics, which has a very different description. From the socionics descriptions they seem like hard-assed prison guards that do everything by the book, which is definitely not me
    Why not ESTP?

    MBTI ISTP is not Socionics ISTj, please drop the j/p switch bullshit. I wish that bullshit had never been made up in the first place, it just creates so much confusion for people.

    By the way these stereotypes... ISTj/LSI != hard-assed prison guard lol. The point is that LSI is a Rational type so they will be more set in their thinking and ways than an Irrational like SLI or SLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Idk, it's not like I thought super hard about it. I guess I got introvert on a test or something and I thought it sounded more interesting
    That's not how you pick your type though lol, not because it sounds more interesting, I mean if your goal is to get to know and understand yourself more.

    Anyway, did it make sense where I said LSI isn't a hard-assed prison guard, just more set in their thinking and their ways than SLE? With that taken into account, would you say you are more like the SLE or the LSI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Yeah but that's the thing, I didn't really take it that seriously back then. I took the test a few tims because I was bored, and the most reansonable result I got was ISTP. I also got ENTP and ESTJ, so it's not like I was consistently typed as an introvert. It felt like the more times I took the test, the more I started over-analyzing the questions, so I answered them differently. It wasn't until I found socionics that I decided that I had to understand the theory, because it felt more useful.
    Ahh right, same for me with MBTI vs Socionics heh. So Ti valuing of you (also your workplace behaviour with the colleagues that you described, struck me as such very much, adding this before I forget to note it).


    I get what your saying, but I still think that LSIs are hard asses and nitpickers when it comes to rules, you obviously care more about the theory than I do for example lol. Don't get me wrong, I like LSIs. Still, thanks for taking the times to help me find my type, I think I'll stick with SLE for now
    Lol sure I noticed you are more relaxed about all this stuff, yes.

    One note: for LSI (as a Ti valuing type) the rules are not from someone else's rulebook per se. Its their own book, they check everything else against that, including those rulebooks by other people. Make sense?

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    Yep, Planet Beta ST Some James Hetfieldian V.I. vibes.

    SLE-Ti is what I got. Dual is Ni +Fe ego to supply timing/planning ("long-distance thinking") and fun ("not boring, can take a joke", someone you can be straightforward with). As for instinct: So/Sp for sure. Enneagram 6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Yep, Planet Beta ST Some James Hetfieldian V.I. vibes.

    SLE-Ti is what I got. Dual is Ni +Fe ego to supply timing/planning ("long-distance thinking") and fun ("not boring, can take a joke", someone you can be straightforward with). As for instinct: So/Sp for sure. Enneagram 6?

    LOL, when I first joined the forum I told @Satan he had James Hetfield vibes after chatting with him a bit. I was imagining he looked like him too. He kind of resembled him a couple years ago. Some type him SLE as well.

    I haven't watched the op's video yet but I will.

    p.s. I have met James. I won't give my opinion on him. He was very drunk though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Really? James Hetfield? I used to be crazy into Metallica as a teenager That's cool that you also included enneagram and instrict, I basically don't know anything about that. I get a bit freaked out by the enneagram diagram thing, it feels like I'm conducting a satanic ritual or something jk. Anyways, I'll definitely check that out to see if I agree
    I KNEW IT! Perfect. You gave me a good laugh about the satanic enneagram, if you want some more exorcism go to my blog for instinct stuff
    Some input before you research about it - The reasoning behind enneagram 6 So/Sp would be that you are a community and safety-focused person. Your example about the terrorist/detecting lies/observing fellow workers was striking me as such. An SLE is usually either enneagram 3,6,8,7- I neither got overt image, career, control, materialistic focus from you, more of a grounded and trusting/surveillance feel. You already asked for guidance in your first post --> enneagram 6 at its best.

    Your instinct stacking goes like this: you seem to be an affiliation type with less but present emphasis on self-preservation, and fewer thoughts go into relationships or just bonding in general, it doesn't have to be romantic. You have an idea about what you want, but as you said: you want to be your own boss. Your sense of self is firm and not outsourced. Social/self-pres lines up neatly with enneagram 6 - what's possible is that you may be Sp/So as well, but we'll see as you look into it more.

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    Very clear video, I agree with SLE. The only other type that came to mind was SEE, though there were some things to speak against it.

    -lots of emphasis on autonomy and doing what you want, impulsiveness
    -all about work, working hard (Se, some Te)
    -dislike of people who are too "nice", like weird, interesting people. Difficulty with people who are too shy and "don't talk" (Fe seeking)
    -Others' misconception is (paraphrasing) that you can't be happy or do what you want to do. Being happy is a choice.
    -no problem standing up for yourself, aggressive when necessary
    -values honesty and directness

    The conflict you describe is a classic example of Fe vs Fi values -- either being responsive (Fe) and attentive to one's duty (Ti) on the one hand or preferring to interact with people you like (Fi). Similarly the example of someone attributing badness in others to their environment or upbringing etc. is an example of NeFi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Are you calling me a lazy bum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Very informative, thank you! How does liking weridos relate to being an SLE hehe?
    Beta NFs are known for being sort of eccentric, it's the combo.

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    SLE's cool, you are obviously ExTP. Definitely not LIE .

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    I'll watch the video when I get home
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    SLE works, HA = mobilizing, yes

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    Hi,

    LSI, SLE.

    Super low energy looking, where you tired or something? Thought SLI when you kept rubbing your eyes.

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    SLE or SLI
    but you definitely seem to lead with sensing to me
    your demeanor makes me think SLE though

    but yeah I would definitely go with SLE like everyone is saying

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    Yeah, if you were LSI I would expect greater organization and attention to the environment (Si) and less impulsiveness.

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    My impression is that you are LSI, possibly Se subtype.

    Enneagram-wise, Sp/Sx 6w7 is likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    My impression is that you are LSI, possibly Se subtype.

    Enneagram-wise, Sp/Sx Type 6 is likely.
    Sp/so, obviously he is an sp dom (his values are independence, he stays at his boring ass job cause it pays well etc). The soc comes in at when he complains about girls who are shy. If he was sx 2nd he would be aware of the attraction between them and that would kind of be enough, especially if he's soc last. But he NEEDs to have conversations. Like he wouldn't try to drag words out of people if he was more aware of the non existent chemistry between them and/or valued it higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Sp/so, obviously he is an sp dom (his values are independence, he stays at his boring ass job cause it pays well etc). The soc comes in at when he complains about girls who are shy. If he was sx 2nd he would be aware of the attraction between them and that would kind of be enough, especially if he's soc last. But he NEEDs to have conversations. Like he wouldn't try to drag words out of people if he was more aware of the non existent chemistry between them and/or valued it higher.
    What you describe there sounds more like weaker Fi on his part.
    Fi is about being able to accurately gauge the attraction (like/dislike etc.) between people.

    For example, there are Logical types who are SX and they can still have troubles seeing whether someone truly likes them or not, because their Fi isn't good enough.

    I am not saying Sp/So is entirely impossible, but I find Sp/Sx more likely. He also mentioned how he likes being friends with people who are into the same albums (music) like he is.
    Sharing hobbies and passions like that is usually SX related. Sp/Sx people, as well as So/Sx people, tend to connect with others through shared passions and "loves" of things. Sp/So on the other hand, not really. They focus more on social interactions and talking about social/cultural things, like the mainstream media or politics. So/Sp does a similar thing, or they connect with others by sharing their favourite recipes, or by playing a certain sport together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    What you describe there sounds more like weaker Fi on his part.
    Fi is about being able to accurately gauge the attraction (like/dislike etc.) between people.

    For example, there are Logical types who are SX and they can still have troubles seeing whether someone truly likes them or not, because their Fi isn't good enough.
    Sx is attraction/repulsion.. whether that is the same as Fi in Socionics (which is a system that probably doesn't exist), it doesn't matter. The instinct still is what it is.
    Sx is the mating instinct, and without knowing what you're attracted to, how are you going to find a suitable mate?



    I am not saying Sp/So is entirely impossible, but I find Sp/Sx more likely. He also mentioned how he likes being friends with people who are into the same albums (music) like he is.
    Sharing hobbies and passions like that is usually SX related. Sp/Sx people, as well as So/Sx people, tend to connect with others through shared passions and "loves" of things. Sp/So on the other hand, not really. They focus more on social interactions and talking about social/cultural things, like the mainstream media or politics. So/Sp does a similar thing, or they connect with others by sharing their favourite recipes, or by playing a certain sport together.
    Its common that people make friends with same interests like music, haha, it doesnt make you sx. Having friends with the same music taste makes it able to listen to it together(soc) and go to concerts together(soc). Me and my soc last friends don't talk about shared music tastes that much, except like i show them a song when i love it, i dont really care if they like it though. It's not a requirement for me that we share music tastes. In my experience so/sx have been the biggest fangirls of things.

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    Hey Viktor,

    Did you ever go by the username Viktor09 (or something similar) on another forum? I think I remember you. Glad to see you again!

    I’ll look over your video in detail later. I have a couple options floating around as of now. Just out of curiosity, have you taken the test over at sociotype.com and if so, what did you get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Yeah, that's totally me I have taken it a while ago and I got LSI. As you might remember, I used to see myself as an ISTP back then. I'm not saying that I can't be an LSI, but after having gotten more into socionics I'm starting to question the idea that I would be a rational type. Because in mbti terms it would make sense since ISTPs are perceivers, but the LSI is described as being very structured, which I'm not. Anyways, I'm still open for other ideas
    Yes! You typed me INFJ when everyone typed me ESTP (actually mbti INFP / EII). I usually get IEI on that test but my best bet for you, as of now, would be SLI. World Socionics Society has great information and you can always turn to them for an interview, if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Hmm I don't remember you, were you one of the guys who uploaded a video to get typed? What was your username?

    Interesting, could you explain why you think I'm an SLI? I'm asking because most people said SLE or LSI. Someone else also said SLI actually

    Edit: Does the world socionics society have professionals who interview you online?
    Yes, cedarsprings.

    Weak Fe but I don't think it's valued. I think there's more of a focus on Fi. There's also your focus on independence and free-thinking mentality which led me to think strong Ti. So Ti is in your mental block somewhere (Functions 1,
    2, 7, & 8). This leaves LIE, ILI, LSE, or SLI. Reading what you've said to a couple of other people on this post, you seem to have a good handle on Se, but you only use it when necessary. Which led me to think Se is also in your mental block; which leaves LSE or SLI. Your free-thinking mentality doesn't seem to be in the ignoring position, instead you would've just focused on the facts and appreciated individuals who stick close to what is known to be true at all times and places. This left me to conclude with SLI.

    Yes WSS does have 'professionals' (not DarkAngelFireWolf69 or anyone like that, but still really good typers & extremely knowledgeable) type you.

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    Looks like a person who has very good command on present. ST maybe SLE. [I must say that it can work another way around: one SLE got bit scared of my powerful vision according to his words.]
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    Looks like you'll adopt the SLE typing for a while because most people suggest that it is the correct one.
    Some time down the line, after more study and self-reflection, you'll realize SLE doesn't entirely fit as well as it should, and then you re-question things.
    And then you may warm up again to LSI, and self-type as that.

    This has been a common pattern for people like you. ^^'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Looks like you'll adopt the SLE typing for a while because most people suggest that it is the correct one.
    Some time down the line, after more study and self-reflection, you'll realize SLE doesn't entirely fit as well as it should, and then you re-question things.
    And then you may warm up again to LSI, and self-type as that.

    This has been a common pattern for people like you. ^^'
    Yeah that was exactly how it was for me lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Yeah, that's totally me I have taken it a while ago and I got LSI. As you might remember, I used to see myself as an ISTP back then. I'm not saying that I can't be an LSI, but after having gotten more into socionics I'm starting to question the idea that I would be a rational type. Because in mbti terms it would make sense since ISTPs are perceivers, but the LSI is described as being very structured, which I'm not. Anyways, I'm still open for other ideas
    ISTPs often type as SLE-Ti or SLI in Socionics.


    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    No, I'm not buying it, I think you're just being controversial to get my attention. I think you have a crush on me or something

    I'm not some fucking LSI nerd, are you kidding me?
    She's IEI, should type you SLE in that case

    SLE-Ti's are often nerds, this isn't really type related in that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    No, I'm not buying it, I think you're just being controversial to get my attention. I think you have a crush on me or something

    I'm not some fucking LSI nerd, are you kidding me?
    Haha.
    I was actually being serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    I'm gonna need an explanation why you think I'm an LSI. All these people agree that I'm an SLE, and they can back it up with good reasons
    Well, my first impression was based on your energy level and "distribution" that reminded me of Ij opposed to Ep, on your communication style that is rather "Cold-blooded", and simply on my recollection of LSIs I have come across and how they act, and you fit that better than SLEs I have seen. (Here is an example of an SLE I have recently come across on YT. See the difference?)

    Based on your behaviour, I find Fe seeking more likely than Fe HA. Or in other words, 1D Fe seems to fit better. A lot of SLEs actively try to be engaging or humorous in their +Fe HA kind of way. To be honest, on my VERY first impression all I got was ISTx. For a few seconds, I wondered about whether you were SLI or LSI. But afterwards, what you said was rather Beta Quadra (Se, Fe valuing) and so forth, and you didn't made Te statements as an SLI with Te Creative would.

    I am assuming that many people type you as SLE because a lot of people don't come across Beta STs on here, and are sensitive towards that in a way.
    So, when they see a guy who is fairly masculine and Beta ST (and likely Se subtype), they are quick to assume SLE.

    To give a more detailed explanation, I'd have to pick apart your statements in the video, or better pick apart your statements from a typing questionnaire.
    However, I don't really feel like doing that. I used to do that more often for free in the past, but now I only do that when people personally request it from me, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Thank you, these are some good points actually. Someone else also pointed out that I seemed to have super low energy levels. I had been working all day and I was really tired, so the video probably made me seem more introverted than I am. My job is very physically demanding, and I never slack at work, so naturally I get tired. It also feels a bit weird for me to talk to a camera, It's different when I talk to actual people, I'm by no means shy.

    That being said, I have to admit that I'm nowhere near as energetic as the guy in the video haha. But this guy is obviously used to making videos, and just as people on forums are sensitive to people appearing extroverted as you mentioned, you also have to keep in mind that youtube personalities are not your average guys, people like him are very extroverted. Also, on a personal note, I haven't really been super happy with my life lately, my job sucks and I don't really have a stable social life that I used to have, so that has been really draining for me.

    But all in all, I think you might be onto something, I dunno. I'll read some more about the temperaments and the "cold-blooded" thing hehe.

    Also, doesn't the IEs go beyond typical behaviours in a sense? I thought that the bottom line was that Se is concerned with power and stuff while Ti is more analytical. I feel like my motivations are more towards Se, I don't really care about rules and things like that, at least not that much
    I agree with @Cassandra on the points of you having not displayed any Fe HA so far, both in the video (the part I watched anyway) and here in your type thread (seemed more 1D Fe-ish the way you engaged with @Aylen) or other posts of yours that I've seem.

    Your complaint here on not having the stable social life could also be Fe seeking. See also about how Fe suggestive differs from Fe mobilizing here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Dmitry-Golihov - these descriptions show very well how essentially the suggestive function is what determines what place we are seeking where the suggestive is ensured to be in a good condition, while mobilizing can deal with issues with a bit more autonomy.

    As for Se, I have more of a conscious focus on Se myself. Supposedly that's a Creative/Contact subtype thing with the strengthened focus on Se.

    I didn't look at that video of the supposed SLE but, assuming he's really SLE, observe the Fe usage of his. Relate or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantombride View Post
    Weak Fe but I don't think it's valued. I think there's more of a focus on Fi. There's also your focus on independence and free-thinking mentality which led me to think strong Ti. So Ti is in your mental block somewhere (Functions 1,
    2, 7, & 8). This leaves LIE, ILI, LSE, or SLI. Reading what you've said to a couple of other people on this post, you seem to have a good handle on Se, but you only use it when necessary. Which led me to think Se is also in your mental block; which leaves LSE or SLI. Your free-thinking mentality doesn't seem to be in the ignoring position, instead you would've just focused on the facts and appreciated individuals who stick close to what is known to be true at all times and places. This left me to conclude with SLI.
    Why do you think Fe is not valued?

    Mental block is not functions 1, 2, 7, 8 but 1, 2, 3 and 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Why do you think Fe is not valued?

    Mental block is not functions 1, 2, 7, 8 but 1, 2, 3 and 4.
    Oh woops, I just meant the Base, Creative, Ignoring & Demonstrative.
    As far as Fe valuing vs. Fi valuing:

    Viktor showed an emphasis on stability and reliability of relationships with friends and family and prioritising people based on judgment of the individuals themselves. This is all opposed to striving for emotional experiences and showing their passions and moods and treating others as a collective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    No, listen, I've always had many friends and I still do, I'm just in a complicated situation right now. As you might remember, I got into a fight with a friend, and as a consequence I'm not around that group anymore. I could if I wanted to, they still ask me to come with them, it's not that bad, I just don't like them. And I make new friends all the time, it's not an issue. Actually, I don't think I am Fe seeking or whatever, because I don't like to be invited into groups, because then I have to schedule my life after them all the time. I only ever do social things because I want to do something, and then I get some friend together, I never go along with a group simply because I'm lonely

    Edit: If anything, the fact that this situation makes me feel drained is a sign that I'm an extrovert
    Lol, Fe seeking isn't about going along with a group because of feeling lonely.

    Anyway, where you say you would have to schedule your life after them all the time, I don't get what you mean by that. Do you feel a compulsion to go out with them whenever they ask or wtf?

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    Do you or would you get a kick out of pushing people around if you had your own company and 35 employees?

    Would you thrive on confrontation or would you do anything to ignore it?
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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