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  • ILE (ENTp)

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  • SEI (ISFp)

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  • ESE (ESFj)

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  • LII (INTj)

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  • SLE (ESTp)

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  • IEI (INFp)

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  • EIE (ENFj)

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  • LSI (ISTj)

    4 80.00%
  • SEE (ESFp)

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  • ILI (INTp)

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  • LIE (ENTj)

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  • ESI (ISFj)

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  • IEE (ENFp)

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  • SLI (ISTp)

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Thread: Mike Pence

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    Default Mike Pence

    New Vice-President of the USA. Nice guy, salt of the earth, despite some dumb ideas. It sounds unlikely, given his running-mate, but my initial impression was ExI. Opinions?

    "There's a lot wrong with our national government, but there's not a lot wrong with our nation. The people of this country are every bit as strong, as caring, as patriotic, as generous, as hard-working as they've ever been. ... We've just got to have a government as good as our people."

    "I believe in servant leadership and the servant always asks, 'Where am I needed most?' ... [I] will approach [leadership] from that perspective - prayerfully, carefully, with humility and with a servant's heart."

    "I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order."

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    I think Fi-ESI is possible for his type. creative over creative makes more sense given his past decisions and the same goes for PoLR over PoLR aswell.
    “We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand.” Randy Pausch

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    SLI
    Last edited by Jake; 05-17-2017 at 04:16 AM.

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    LSI-Se

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    Ij temperament and strong on the PoLR with his attitude, either ESI or LSI

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    LSI-Ti sx/sp 1w2, he's rather rigid in his presentations and interestingly his manners and body language are somewhat similar to Putin's.


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    Yeah, LSI-Ti.

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    My gut reaction was ESI. Would mesh with my opinion that Trump is LIE. I can't see what else would bring the two together if they didn't have a strong personal connection. Everything else about them is so different.
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    I agree with Silke that Pence is LSI-Ti. (Maybe Normalizing and LSI-EII?). I know this is very unlikely, and I don’t really think Mike Pence is that kind of person, yet when I was reading an Introduction about LBJ and JFK, it got me thinking. What if Pence wants Trump to be assassinated so he can become President instead. I figure Trump could get impeached, etc. before 2020, and perhaps Pence would have less options then and would be less likely to win the 2020 election. Or if Trump is re-elected in 2020, he might be assassinated shortly after. Perhaps, in contrast to JFK, the death could be made to look like natural causes (maybe some sort of poison and/or nanotechnology or something else wouldn’t surprise me). I doubt it would be bullets like it was with JFK, yet that’s not out of the question either. Pence does seem pretty different than LBJ in a lot of ways, and I hope Pence isn’t a sociopath (he doesn’t seem like one). There were already was somewhat of an assassination attempt on Trump during the 2016 campaign, yet I believe the footage has been purged from youtube (et al?) in an attempt to protect the socialist British (individual). Anyway, take a look at these links if you’re interested:

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...o-be-president

    “By the time he had left high school, he had decided that he was going to be president of the United States. ... He thought God was calling him to, now, be vice president and function as a president-in-waiting."


    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8532896.html

    ‘Mr Trump was also infuriated by the publication of an anonymous op-ed by the New York Times, claiming to have been written by a senior member of his administration, which claimed a “resistance” of people within the government was working to try and counter the president’s worst instincts.

    It said the people had briefly considered using the 25th amendment of the constitution, which allows for a succession process in circumstances of death, removal, resignation, or incapacitation. The measure was introduced after the 1963 assassination of John F Kennedy, and in the line of succession the seat would be filled by the vice president, then the Speaker of the House.

    Ms Manigault Newman told ABC News she believed Mr Pence was already planning a move on the Oval Office and that the writer of the op-ed was likely his senior aide, Nick Ayers, something that his office has denied.’


    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/06/vice...mes-op-ed.html

    ‘The article's publication in The New York Times set off a wave of intense speculation about the author's identity. Observers seized on the essayist's use of the word "lodestar," which Pence often uses in his speeches and statements, as possible evidence the op-ed came from the vice president or among his top staff.’

    “The official who wrote the piece described talk among Cabinet members about possibly using the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office. The amendment went into effect in 1967, four years after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, as a way to clarify constitutional lines of succession in the event a president dies or is incapacitated.”


    HERO: Anyway, hopefully nothing like that happens... Yet if Trump does die during his presidency, I doubt it would be from natural causes or just some murderous "anti-Trump" person or whatever.

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    LSI Trump's Mirror relation.
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    He's hot to me even tho he's an evil Republican. He def 'activates me' so I like LSI for him.

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    LSI-Se
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    I would have initially thought SLI but I'm going to have to agree with other on LSI after having become more familiar with him.

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    ESI-Se. I don't know why anyone thinks he's an LSI, other than that he's somewhat rigid and very calm; he's way more moralistic, talkative, and outgoing than LSI tend to be and I don't see where he's ever made decisions based upon a logical system he created. In the debate with Kaine (ESI-Fi), Pence made some facial expressions that looked a lot like ones McCain (ESI-Se) made when McCain was debating Obama (ESI-Fi).

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    LSE
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I was talking to an IEI the other day and she said that Pence needs to come out of the closet.

    Impossible to argue with that 4D Ni.

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    I've changed my mind to LSI, probably Ti subtype, but he might be the Se subtype. He places more value on words and language and inspiration from other people and moral rather than pragmatic principles than the Se subtype seems to and doesn't seem to be as strict in logic nor as concrete as the Se subtype is, he's more concerned about people and seems more sincere in his feelings than the Se subtype is. But his demeanor is less aggressive and less gruff and less willing to pick a fight than Ti subtypes usually are. Se subtype subdues their feelings, if they have any, to logic, the Ti subtype has a much harder time doing that.

    EDIT: He's LSI-Se subtype. I had been thinking for a long time that his cheek bones are high and his smile in a photo is very similar to a childhood friend of mine, whom I initially typed ESI-Se because he always wore expensive bright clothing, but now I think he's LSI-Se. He had interest in religion and philosophy (one or both of which what he majored in) and was pretty competitive and combative and great at analysis. But he shared his interests (he seemed yielding) and freely showed his emotions and told people what he was doing and seemed pretty extraverted and outgoing and talkative and to resemble a social. Also, his facial expressions and the way he looked sometimes looked like he was static, process, and positivist (they resembled his ILE-Ti mother and an ILE-Ti nurse I knew although some of Eva Green's facial expression resemble an ILE-Ti I know of and she was an ESI-Se). He seemed to have that static-process-positivist resourcefulness, ability to make more out of less. But that friend may have been an ESI-Se, because he's always dressed like one and his father did too and his father worked the night shift and didn't make a whole lot of money and seemed pretty outgoing.

    EDIT 2: First sentence of the previous edit should've just been "He's LSI-Se"; I had made it redundant by saying "He's LSI-Se subtype" and redundancy is terrible. Eva Green was an LSI-Se. I had initially thought ESI-Se because she seemed emotional, she seemed neurotic, she seemed more abstract in her thinking than I thought LSI could be, I hadn't thought LSI were as emotionally expressive as she was in the video on this website, and she did something with her hands like I saw George HW Bush do with his hands and I thought he was an ESI-Se (but he's actually not) and I didn't know much about nor understand ESIs and LSI-Ses at the time (I still don't know nor understand much; my focus has primarily been on ILE-Ti although I've been thinking more about LSI-Se, just as I was focused on what I thought were Ne-doms but hadn't understood the differences between the ENxx types all that well when I was into the MBTI, because the MBTI isn't as good of a system as Socionics is and just like how I was focused on 8w7 and sx/so when I was into the Enneagram).
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