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    Default Magnus Carlsen

    In MBTI they discuss about him being either INTJ or INTP but I have seen an ENTp with very similar visual identification, he sounds a bit boastful and arrogant to me and jokes about himself being a genius at times, as a child he could focus for long time on tasks and has very different character than ENTj Garry Kasparov. What is his type?



     










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    I was thinking ILI harmonizing. Maybe? But I don't know him that well, just watched a few videos.


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    Magnus Carlsen - Hamlet ?



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    7w8 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger557 View Post
    7w8 ?

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    You know enneagram? That theory that is complementary to socionics?

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    Enneagram is about personality traits and it is not about personality types. Right?
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    Yeah LSI was an interesting suggestion. He actually seems H-LSI

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Enneagram is about personality traits and it is not about personality types. Right?
    It is about people's motivations. It can be VI'ed too

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Enneagram is about personality traits and it is not about personality types. Right?
    A type is not made up of combined traits?
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    The personality traits constitute to well-defined Jungian categories.

    These categories are the 16 inescapable prison cells which we call personality types.



    I was not able to match them to the 9 loops of Enneagram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Enneagram is about personality traits and it is not about personality types. Right?
    Type Characteristic role Ego fixation Holy idea Basic fear Basic desire Temptation Vice/Passion Virtue Stress/ Disintegration Security/ Integration
    1 Reformer, Perfectionist Resentment Perfection Corruptness, imbalance, being bad Goodness, integrity, balance Hypocrisy, hypercriticism Anger Serenity 4 7
    2 Helper, Giver Flattery(Ingratiation) Freedom, Will Being unloved To feel love Deny own needs, manipulation Pride Humility 8 4
    3 Achiever, Performer Vanity Hope, Law Worthlessness To feel valuable Pushing self to always be "the best" Deceit Truthfulness, Authenticity 9 6
    4 Individualist, Romantic Melancholy(Fantasizing) Origin Having no identity or significance To be uniquely themselves To overuse imagination in search of self Envy Equanimity(Emotional Balance) 2 1
    5 Investigator, Observer Stinginess (Retention) Omniscience, transparency Helplessness, incapability, incompetence Mastery, understanding Replacing direct experience with concepts Avarice Non-Attachment 7 8
    6 Loyalist, Loyal Skeptic Cowardice(Worrying) Faith Being without support or guidance To have support and guidance Indecision, doubt, seeking reassurance Fear Courage 3 9
    7 Enthusiast, Epicure Planning(Anticipation) Wisdom, Plan Being unfulfilled, trapped, deprived For life to be a fulfilling adventure Thinking fulfillment is somewhere else Gluttony Sobriety 1 5
    8 Challenger, Protector Vengeance(Objectification) Truth Being controlled, harmed, violated For life to be in their own control Thinking they are completely self-sufficient Lust(Forcefulness) Innocence 5 2
    9 Peacemaker, Mediator Indolence(Daydreaming) Love Loss, fragmentation, separation Wholeness, peace of mind Avoiding conflicts, avoiding self-assertion Sloth(Disengagement) Action 6 3

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung

     



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    Thank you @Aylen

    I believe this table can be cleaned up, reduced to 8 rows and then each row should be assigned to a single Jungian function. The whole system will become consistent this way.

    Each Jungian function may have a characteristic role, fixation, idea, fear, desire, temptation, vice/passion, stress/disintegration, security/integration.


    1 line must go! I am afraid the Enneagram professionals will not like it.

    Or 7 new line is required. One for each personality type.
    Last edited by khcs; 05-11-2019 at 08:12 PM.

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    LII-Ti 5w4 sx/so

    Added: https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/lii-ti/
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    5w4...the idiosyncratic-self-sufficient gestalt

    Skinner is LII-Ti 5w6 sx/so (the solitary-self-sufficient gestalt)
    Russ Hudson is LII-Ti 9w1 sp/sx (The purposeful-leisurely gestalt)

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    Hamlet ?


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    7w8-9w8-?

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    Ti-LSI 5w6, and likely an sp/so

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    LII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    LII
    many chess players are ILI (caruana, anand) and LIE (kasparov, nakamura), but I agree with you that Carlsen is a LII.

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    maybe to complete the NT types: I think Alexander Grischuk is an ILE

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    https://youtu.be/_C-GjBSNQzM

    Magnus Carlsen makes some interesting comments about himself here, because he's literally an analytic with a creative subtype.

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