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    I was wondering is "thinking on your feet" type related? If so how?

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    Define "thinking on your feet"? If you mean "acting quickly and appropriately on brand new information/a spontaneous situation," I'm pretty sure that's entirely related to Se. Then one can analyze every type's relationship to "thinking on your feet" through each type's relationship to Se in Model A. Other IEs might involve thinking quickly about various things (e.g, Ti is incredible at spotting internal inconsistencies; Fi immediately knows someone's true feelings about them), but to not only think/understand quickly, but also act quickly, I think you have to be using Se. Se is the IE of action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economist View Post
    Define "thinking on your feet"? If you mean "acting quickly and appropriately on brand new information/a spontaneous situation," I'm pretty sure that's entirely related to Se. Then one can analyze every type's relationship to "thinking on your feet" through each type's relationship to Se in Model A. Other IEs might involve thinking quickly about various things (e.g, Ti is incredible at spotting internal inconsistencies; Fi immediately knows someone's true feelings about them), but to not only think/understand quickly, but also act quickly, I think you have to be using Se. Se is the IE of action.
    Yeah, that's what I meant but I would have used "responding" instead of "acting", because I think "acting" is about physical response while "responding" is more general and be used to mean someone who can think of a counter argument quickly.

    personally, I noticed Se & Ne are both good at thinking quickly on their feet, when there is an emergency and everyone is panicking or doesn't know what to do Se users seems in the zone and take charge
    while Ne users are quick with ideas/arguments/witty remarks

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    Yeah I would say it's a mix of Ne, Se, and maybe also Te. It depends on what you mean exactly.

    Ne quick thinking involves elaborating on / spinning off objects of discussion while Se quick thinking is more about responding to how the present situation is changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Yeah I would say it's a mix of Ne, Se, and maybe also Te. It depends on what you mean exactly.

    Ne quick thinking involves elaborating on / spinning off objects of discussion while Se quick thinking is more about responding to how the present situation is changing.
    I would say this is accurate in my case as an LII. I'm decent at the former, provided I know something about the topic of discussion. I am lousy at the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    I was wondering is "thinking on your feet" type related? If so how?
    Yeah a bit, i guess everyone who has Ni are not quick thinking on your feet types. They need time to ponder.

    SLE are notorious for instant tactical moves.
    Probably SLI also sometimes, they are known to have great streetsmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Yeah a bit, i guess everyone who has Ni are not quick thinking on your feet types. They need time to ponder.

    SLE are notorious for instant tactical moves.
    Probably SLI also sometimes, they are known to have great streetsmart.
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    One time me and this SEE couldn't get into a club because we were dressed like bums. My mind froze. Him:

    "Lets see if we can pay the bouncer under the table."
    "Lets befriend these dudes and see if they can get us in."
    "Lets grab one of these chicks out here and maybe they'll let us in if we have girls on our arms."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Yeah a bit, i guess everyone who has Ni are not quick thinking on your feet types. They need time to ponder.

    SLE are notorious for instant tactical moves.
    Probably SLI also sometimes, they are known to have great streetsmart.
    That is why SLE and IEI are duals so they can do Se stuff for me lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerprincess View Post
    That is why SLE and IEI are duals so they can do Se stuff for me lol!
    If they knew being SLE would make them do Se stuff for you, wouldn't they wish to change their types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    If they knew being SLE would make them do Se stuff for you, wouldn't they wish to change their types?


    I was linked to a thread yesterday (different site) about IEI needing butlers... If self typed IEI believe they are getting a butler aka caregiver in an SLE they are probably in for a rude awakening. Not saying they are not willing to help but SLE aren't going to be doormats who will provide for your every need so you can lie in bed and write fantasy novels. They can be caring though and pull more than their share if they know you are doing you part.

    SLE are just as likely to make you fend for yourself so you don't stagnate in a pool of your own inertia. That is what Se seeking is about, an impetus to act. I believe that Ti HA is slow but other functions can cover for that so Ni types can think on their feet using their creative functions to respond. If I am in a situation where someone is bleeding out in front of me, I might need some assistance from a type that can handle blood emergencies. If I have to talk my way out of a speeding ticket, I usually have that kind of thing handled. Ni is informed by subconscious Se and also role function but in a different way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    If I have to talk my way out of a speeding ticket, I usually have that kind of thing handled. Ni is informed by subconscious Se and also role function but in a different way.
    I would say talking your way out of a speeding ticket would be the use of Fe even if Ni or Se may contribute, in the end it is Fe. what do you think

    btw, how many times did you get a speeding ticket? you talked like an expert, so maybe it becomes a routine thing for you not quick thinking

    back to the topic can we say extroverted functions (Se, Ne, Te, Fe) are quicker ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerprincess View Post
    That is why SLE and IEI are duals so they can do Se stuff for me lol!
    Hmm, what do you actually consider "Se" stuff?

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    it's what i'm bad at

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    It's kind of all-or-nothing for me with this. Either I totally avoid situations and places I'm unfamiliar with or I plunge myself straight into the chaos with no provisions and focus all my attention towards maneuvering and adapting the best I can. I find all the in-between stuff to be very tedious and uninteresting. For example I never studied in school ever because I found it too boring and intrusive towards my home activites so I instead focused all energy on absorbing as much information as possible from classtime teaching to compensate.

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    From best to worst at thinking on your feet IMO: ExxP > ExxJ > IxxP > IxxJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    From best to worst at thinking on your feet IMO: ExxP > ExxJ > IxxP > IxxJ
    I would actually say IJ is better than IP, since they have a Pe element as their creative function (despite having a different one as their vulnerable function). The ignoring/suggestive combo is much more difficult to engage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I would actually say IJ is better than IP, since they have a Pe element as their creative function (despite having a different one as their vulnerable function). The ignoring/suggestive combo is much more difficult to engage.
    a valid point but I think that would be true in situation that similar to old experiences so their (Ti/Fi) doesn't need to reprocess the situation
    but in a completely new situation I would say IPs are better, what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    a valid point but I think that would be true in situation that similar to old experiences so their (Ti/Fi) doesn't need to reprocess the situation
    but in a completely new situation I would say IPs are better, what do you think?
    Hard to know exactly what you mean but it's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    From best to worst at thinking on your feet IMO: ExxP > ExxJ > IxxP > IxxJ
    I think you summed it up very well

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    It depends on what you mean by that. Irrationals are more flexible, and dynamic types handle chaos better. Se is really talented in making actions in the moment that make their world malleable. Aristocratic irrationals have the highest stress resistance. The original question is too broadly asked.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    It depends on what you mean by that. Irrationals are more flexible, and dynamic types handle chaos better. Se is really talented in making actions in the moment that make their world malleable. Aristocratic irrationals have the highest stress resistance. The original question is too broadly asked.

    I'm none of those things. I'm a static rational type with Se PoLR. I hate chaotic situations and when too many things are going on at once, I tend to panic. I don't like situations where I must think quickly on my feet. I like to take my time, uninterrupted, most preferably. However, I can think on my feet when I must, with varying degrees of success. I use my Ne creative to compensate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Aristocratic irrationals have the highest stress resistance.
    Interesting! where did you get this information from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    Interesting! where did you get this information from?
    Maybe DarkAngelFireWolf69s cognitive styles, possibly somehwere else.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    Interesting! where did you get this information from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Maybe DarkAngelFireWolf69s cognitive styles, possibly somehwere else.
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...stance-DarkAngelFireWolf69

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    i htink that only people with no feeet do no think on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingo View Post
    i htink that only people with no feeet do no think on them
    we can test that by cutting your feet and observing if you will stop thinking on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    I was wondering is "thinking on your feet" type related? If so how?
    I think it is, and more specifically, it's control system related. By their very nature, Ejs are the best at thinking ad hoc and Ips are the best at detection while on the fly. Ijs and Eps have their own strengths but real-time processing is not one of them.

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