Thoughts on "the demonstrative"

[Tigerfadder]

For some time now I recognized the demonstrative is the most interesting thing in Socionics. I guess it is a powerelement which where the person gain power and influence without much loss. We do not even take it seriously yet we compete with those who have this in their ego-block.

It have different display depending on type, so the spins are very much real here. In ESE it can display as grampa hipster clothing, high strength in body in all ways (like being the most endured individual around). They say Se-.

While ESI make the strongest relations which last for a lifetime, they make sacrifices. IEI's demonstrative make them quicker with less energy spend.

It creates the great short. The lead work in tandem (so they say) with the suggestive and all the shortcomings of the suggestive make the road a lot longer and complicated.

What are your thoughts on the demonstrative? I very much want to hear what you think!

[mclane]

Some russian socionist described the demonstrative as something at which the person is "a magician" (literal words).

My own thoughts on it: it is something that you are very good at, but at the same time you do not give as much importance as your ego or superid functions. It is "bogus", in the sense that as strong as it may seem, it is not really the real thing as it would be if it was valued. For example an IEI-Fe: they seem to have tons of -Fe/+Fi, always evaluating the character of people, seeming "good", etc, but in reality they are very controlling and even ruthless. In producing subtypes the demonstrative is more apparent than in accepting subtypes, but even less valued. I think the real objetives of the demonstrative are twofold: 1. Helping a dual with his/her PoLR; 2. Having a person that is as proficient as one with said function in the ego, but in the opposite quadra (so that quadras feel "complete").

[Tigerfadder]

It is not a spell, but might be for the suggestive type of your demonstrative.

@ the spin of IEI. They befriend those they admire. Those they think have the character they want to friend but they are nice toward everyone since that is the only way society could work without war, i suppose.

I heard also that if you are creative subtype than you have greater focus on your demonstrative. I guess that is true! It is the two subtype system, not DCNH.

[Tigerfadder]

Yet other thing is that one can type based in this logic of that the program, or lead, element work in tandem and the demonstrative does not. It create pure expressions so to speak. For example a EII's Ni have little if any Sensing to it.

Demonstrative Fe can be highly illogical. It might be so it strive for it.

This create massive polarity in how it functions.