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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Much of which includes White identity politics.
    Boomers don't know what "white identity" means, and hardly think of themselves in terms of an ethnic group. They still fetishize that anyone from anywhere can magically become an American if only they immigrate legally and read the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perpetual Now View Post
    White nationalism had been on the decline for a while. Left wing identity politics kind of halted that decline and indirectly fed into the growth of identity politics on the right. The right used to be very out of touch when it came to memeing and using the internet to magnify and intensify their message, but I think they learned from watching the left do it better for a time, then changed their playbook accordingly. Trump is as much a product of the left as he is of the right.
    Interesting; how do you know this..?


    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Boomers don't know what "white identity" means, and hardly think of themselves in terms of an ethnic group. They still fetishize that anyone from anywhere can magically become an American if only they immigrate legally and read the Constitution.
    That sounds more like Liberals of any generation, including boomers. I find it hard to believe that boomers didn't inherit racialist sentiments from their parents or societal milieus. I mean, they were at least alive during Jim Crow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Interesting; how do you know this..?
    upsurge during Obama’s Presidency and especially when Trump started campaigning for President. Of course they never totally went away, but it’s in the last 8-10 years where you really start hearing about a lot of younger millennials drifting toward far right ethnonationalism and the presence of white nationalism online begins to grow beyond a few forums such as storm front and can no longer be easily ignored. They overlap a bit with the fringes of the tea party at this time, as their rises are both fueled in part by a visceral reaction to Obama’s existence. The Tea Party begins to fracture into two camps: the isolationistic fiscal libertarians and the more hawkish “where’d muh country go” social conservatives. With Trump, many of the the latter group and the aforementioned millennial white nationalists formed the most vocal chunk of his base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    That sounds more like Liberals of any generation, including boomers.
    Rewind a contemporary liberal by ~25yrs and you'll end up with a contemporary conservative. Conservatism ≈ Progressivism driving the speed limit.

    I find it hard to believe that boomers didn't inherit racialist sentiments from their parents or societal milieus.
    Lol. Their parents were the ones who voted in civil rights candidates (LBJ, etc), oversaw the dismantling of segregated schools, and so on.

    I mean, they were at least alive during Jim Crow.
    Sorta. Boomers were still children during the waning days of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Rewind a contemporary liberal by ~25yrs and you'll end up with a contemporary conservative. Conservatism ≈ Progressivism driving the speed limit.

    Lol. Their parents were the ones who voted in civil rights candidates (LBJ, etc), oversaw the dismantling of segregated schools, and so on.

    Sorta. Boomers were still children during the waning days of it.

    Haha. Boomer parents fighting for civil rights were fighting against other boomer parents opposed to civil rights. Are you trying to argue that boomers didn't inherit racist beliefs from their environment..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Haha. Boomer parents fighting for civil rights were fighting against other boomer parents opposed to civil rights. Are you trying to argue that boomers didn't inherit racist beliefs from their environment?
    The point is that Boomers came of age after segregation had ended. So no, I don't think such beliefs were conditioned into them.

    Most boomers believe very earnestly in the idea that America can be a postracial society. As do conservative boomers (but they'll say Obama derailed it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    The point is that Boomers came of age after segregation had ended. So no, I don't think such beliefs were conditioned into them.

    Most boomers believe very earnestly in the idea that America can be a postracial society. As do conservative boomers (but they'll say Obama derailed it).
    OK, but boomer parents with racist beliefs didn't automatically give up those beliefs when segregation ended. Plenty of professional racialists leading their side of the culture war are boomers (like David Duke and Jared Taylor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    OK, but boomer parents with racist beliefs didn't automatically give up those beliefs when segregation ended.
    Okay. By that silly reasoning then neither did Gens X/Y/Z, because racist Boomers' racist parents.

    Plenty of professional racialists leading their side of the culture war are boomers (like David Duke and Jared Taylor).
    Who are completely atypical for their cohort and long the target of derision for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Okay. By that silly reasoning then neither did Gens X/Y/Z, because racist Boomers' racist parents.
    No, because new ideas and generational progress is still a thing.

    You claim:

    Boomers don't know what "white identity" means, and hardly think of themselves in terms of an ethnic group.
    What is "hardly" -- do you have numbers to attach to this claim? It seems like a very strong statement to make that an entire generation is almost completely on one side of the most contested issue in current political affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    No, because new ideas and generational progress is still a thing.
    Well…: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...their-parents/

    A significant drop from Silent Gen to Boomers—as expected. Yet not much changes between white Boomers and Millennials, two generations apart. Also possible that Millennials might become more racist as they get older, rendering the change even more insignificant (or worse)…

    What is "hardly" -- do you have numbers to attach to this claim? It seems like a very strong statement to make that an entire generation is almost completely on one side of the most contested issue in current political affairs.
    Numbers above suggest that white Boomers aren't far from white Millennials re: racial views. Make of that what you will.

    Identity self-concepts usually develop as a reaction to social adversities (real or perceived). Boomers grew up in an ~85% white majority country amidst an easy backdrop of postwar prosperity, and most will die comfortably rich well before they experience what a <50% white minority country in permanent economic decline is like. So there was hardly any social exigency for Boomers to cultivate a 'white identity'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckrz View Post
    Well…: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...their-parents/

    A significant drop from Silent Gen to Boomers—as expected. Yet not much changes between white Boomers and Millennials, two generations apart. Also possible that Millennials might become more racist as they get older, rendering the change even more insignificant (or worse)…



    Numbers above suggest that white Boomers aren't far from white Millennials re: racial views. Make of that what you will.

    Identity self-concepts usually develop as a reaction to social adversities (real or perceived). Boomers grew up in an ~85% white majority country amidst an easy backdrop of postwar prosperity, and most will die comfortably rich well before they experience what a <50% white minority country in permanent economic decline is like. So there was hardly any social exigency for Boomers to cultivate a 'white identity'.

    That article completely vindicates my point dude.

    It says that boomers are anywhere between 20 to 43% likely to have racist views with respect to black people. It also says that boomers have an implicit bias towards White people at 48% (with 36% neutral). I'm making the case that boomers are divided on the issue; you were making the case that boomers are stacked completely on one side, which is obviously wrong if you've followed the news for even a second.

    Millennials also scored a little better than boomers overall, meaning that whatever "non-white identity" boomers are supposed to have is reflected in their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    That article completely vindicates my point dude.

    It says that boomers are anywhere between 20 to 43% likely to have racist views with respect to black people. It also says that boomers have an implicit bias towards White people at 48% (with 36% neutral). I'm making the case that boomers are divided on the issue; you were making the case that boomers are stacked completely on one side, which is obviously wrong if you've followed the news for even a second.
    I said most, not all. Plz read more carefully.

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    No generation is a monolith.

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    The claws are out....Nancy "Nobody home" Pelosi versus nitwit loon "Airhead" Ocasio. This is beautiful....could turn into bloodbath!

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pel...081719792.html

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    Stuttering Pelosi is too late to stop the identity politic cesspool (aka democratic party).

    Speaker Pelosi says ⁦⁦@AOC⁩, ⁦@IlhanMN⁩, ⁦@AyannaPressley⁩ and ⁦⁦@RashidaTlaib “have their public whatever and their Twitter world. But they didn’t have any following. They’re four people and that’s how many votes they got.”
    Time to ramp up deportations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    The claws are out....Nancy "Nobody home" Pelosi versus nitwit loon "Airhead" Ocasio. This is beautiful....could turn into bloodbath!

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pel...081719792.html
    The Left is eating itself again. The problem is far leftist loons are dragging their party down with their "my way or the highway" mentality. In an ideal world, it would be better to have a Democrat version of the bill pass to ensure better conditions for illegal immigrants in camps.

    However, by preventing funding unless Republicans approve their version of the bill ensures that illegal immigrants will continue to live in poor conditions at the border camps unless funding is increased as soon as possible.

    Center left congress Democrats understand that they will have to cut their losses and increase funding to the camps on Republican terms, while far leftist congress Democrats don't. As the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions...
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    Ultimately, not much has changed since Trump's been elected. Non-whites from countries all over the world are still flooding into the country at increasingly fast rates and we should be minority white in 25 years max. No matter how much Trump barks about "monitoring the situation" or gloats about the economy on Twitter the truth is that demographics are destiny. Texas will go the way of California soon and vote Democrat along with Florida and Arizona and the GOP will be killed within 5 years max because Trump has bowed down to the will of the corporate oligarchy and Israel and refuses to care about white Americans who made up the vast majority of his voting base. Expect whites to break anti-white conditioning over the next 10 years by shear force of experience.

    The System will not allow itself to be diverted from its goals by its own members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vizany View Post
    we should be minority white in 25 years max.
    Whites (non-Hispanic, non-MENA) are already <50% of the country because illegals are systematically undercounted (there's at least 40 million).

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    I'll respect whoever drains the swamp. The swamp isn't DC. New political mosquitos aren't bred in DC, only poor people who blast go-go music out shop windows and generally don't bother anyone who doesn't live there are bred in Washington, DC. Political mosquitos are bred in Harvard and Yale and MIT and Berkeley and Columbia and Rochester and the University of Oklahoma and Texas Tech. If you want to drain the swamp, buy a college. Tell Elon Musk to buy a college and let us go to Mars and do idealistic things again. Tell Hollywood to buy a college so they can have English and arts people help them make things besides superhero movies that are dumb and everyone gets tired of. Capitalism is good. American education is socialism in practice and it's a disaster for everyone and everything. Of course they're cultural Marxists. They're actual Marxists too but they realized that's not working out for them already. #DrainTheSwamp

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    Predictably "Airhead" "Ditz" Ocasio-Cortez resorts to identity politics.

    I hope this rift turns into a bloodbath and spills into a third party candidate...independent ticket splits the vote.

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...y-ebof-vpx.cnn

    Time to ramp up the parent deportations. Parent deportations is a great policy....only thing stopping it are bleeding hearts.

    Democratic party (aka identity politic cesspool) and its homo white knight syndrome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    American education is socialism in practice and it's a disaster for everyone and everything.
    Perhaps instead of being part of a big communist conspiracy to infiltrate American education, maybe these university professors you talk about are socialist because they have actually study history and economics in detail and have naturally came to the conclusion that socialism is a necessary step forward from capitalism? Which one seems like a more likely and reasonable explanation to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Perhaps instead of being part of a big communist conspiracy to infiltrate American education, maybe these university professors you talk about are socialist because they have actually study history and economics in detail and have naturally came to the conclusion that socialism is a necessary step forward from capitalism? Which one seems like a more likely and reasonable explanation to you?
    It's not a communist conspiracy. It's just the case that people adapt to their environment, the same as what you see with plants and animals in nature. If the government runs everything, people, who usually aren't university professors but rather adjuncts, students, and bureaucrats, pick up bizarre philosophies that support the government running everything. I'm not talking having a social safety net or even traditional Marxism. Actual professors tend to have fewer bizarre philosophies because they're educated. Most university faculty aren't professors and most university employees aren't faculty so none of my complaints are directed at professors as a group. I haven't known any individual tenure-track professors to push any sort of philosophy or politics on their students that isn't part of the course actually.

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    Trump sticks it in the ass of identity politics.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-...lam-president/

    The democratic party is such a mess. Nancy Pelosi sounds like a stuttering retard when she talks.

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    Slob tlaib gets elected entirely through anti-trump demagoguery now cries identity politic foul after Trump, Pelosi, and Middle America ovens the fuck out of her!



    Divide and conquer the identity politic cesspool (aka democratic party). Makes for a nice pre-nomination pivot into election time ads collaging them with nutty Antifa kooks...hehehe

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    @Kill4Me are you too retarded to understand that Trump's unapologetic, (essentially) White Nationalist ramblings is a flagrant embrace of white identity politics? lol Nice to confirm that your thick (allegedly) SLE neck is supported by an even thicker, dense skull.

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    At least 3/4 of those women were born in a shithole whose government is a complete and total catastrophe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Perhaps instead of being part of a big communist conspiracy to infiltrate American education, maybe these university professors you talk about are socialist because they have actually study history and economics in detail and have naturally came to the conclusion that socialism is a necessary step forward from capitalism? Which one seems like a more likely and reasonable explanation to you?
    While it's a fact that during the cold war, a certain number of university professors were part of a pro-Stalin fifth column, I'm pretty sure you would agree that we shouldn't conflate revolutionary socialists with American liberals. What you are describing (socialism being the final end of capitalism) is essentially Marxist doctrine and I don't think American university professors, who for the most part are American liberals, believe in the socialism you describe. They simply want redistribution of wealth. I think most intellectuals nowadays understand, as Marx did, that it is capitalists who create wealth. But they aeren't really calling for full socialism, just redistrubtion of wealth, though just how much wealth should be redistributed depends on who you talk to.

    I think the real reason many intellectuals (many of whom teach at the university level) tend to have liberal views is because liberalism has an anti-establishment streak to it, it questions the status quo (or supposed status quo) of western society. (capitalism, traditional institutions etc) They prefer to challenge existing norms, or they wouldn't be very good intellectuals. The irony of this is that when everyone adopts the same ideology, in this case liberalism, it creates its own status quo and stasis which demands questioning.
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    Libertarian Presidential Candidates Prefer Each Other Over Justin Amash



    "We cannot elect or nominate a former Republican…for the fourth cycle in a row. I just think that would set the party back so far," Kokesh said. "And it's hard….Gary Johnson was better than [2008 nominee] Bob Barr, and Justin Amash might be that much better than Gary Johnson even. It's the worst temptation we've ever seen from this vector. But it's the most important time to resist it. I would really, enthusiastically, welcome Amash to the race, but I would be more thrilled to support and see anybody on this stage beating him."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    While it's a fact that during the cold war, a certain number of university professors were part of a pro-Stalin fifth column, I'm pretty sure you would agree that we shouldn't conflate revolutionary socialists with American liberals. What you are describing (socialism being the final end of capitalism) is essentially Marxist doctrine and I don't think American university professors, who for the most part are American liberals, believe in the socialism you describe. They simply want redistribution of wealth. I think most intellectuals nowadays understand, as Marx did, that it is capitalists who create wealth. But they aeren't really calling for full socialism, just redistrubtion of wealth, though just how much wealth should be redistributed depends on who you talk to.

    I think the real reason many intellectuals (many of whom teach at the university level) tend to have liberal views is because liberalism has an anti-establishment streak to it, it questions the status quo (or supposed status quo) of western society. (capitalism, traditional institutions etc) They prefer to challenge existing norms, or they wouldn't be very good intellectuals. The irony of this is that when everyone adopts the same ideology, in this case liberalism, it creates its own status quo and stasis which demands questioning.
    Liberalism/capitalism had it's place in bringing us out of feudalism and was appropriate back then. Now we live in the of mega-corporations and an ever on-going propaganda war. Liberalism today is fading away to socialism and subsequent reactionary ideologies because it lacks to muscle to deal with class struggle and other urgent issues. Social mobility in America is practically gone none thanks to a half century of corporate influence in politics and we are basically living in a disguised form of feudalism. The only reason there has been peace at all in America for the last half century was because of the New Deal, which was not a policy spearheaded by liberals (and definitely not laissez-faire capitalist) but by communist, socialist, and union members. Since then elites have been getting their way time and time again thanks to their wealth and influence over politics.

    We at the point now where even Social Democrats like most in those in the Democrat party are being demonized as being full-blown communist by the right. I don't think a compromise like the New Deal is going to be reached this time. You will either have to side with socialist camp that seek to overthrow and rework the system at the unfortunate expense of those on top, or with the exclusionary right-wing camp that want to maintain and strengthen their privileges on the simple basis of "Might Makes Right".

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    Trump calls Antifa "gutless radical left whack jobs."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sup...200800879.html

    I couldn't agree more. Antifa is a bunch of pussies. They piss themselves one to one.

    Good antifa is dead antifa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Trump calls Antifa "gutless radical left whack jobs."

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-sup...200800879.html

    I couldn't agree more. Antifa is a bunch of pussies. They piss themselves one to one.

    Good antifa is dead antifa.
    You want to talk about "whack jobs?"

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    1. I broke my friend's nose once. It was an accident, though...I was trying to punch him in the jaw. Bad aim, I guess. Though, I did leave a big bloodstain on the person’s driveway that I punched him on. hehe.

    2. When I was a little kid, I punched my older brother in the balls while he was outside mowing the lawn. he was incapacitated for hours.

    3. In elementary school, I frequently employed violence. Once a kid busted my chops in third grade (he said one thing to me) and I kicked him square in the stomach. He keeled over. A kid cut me in line during gym class and I grabbed him with both hands by the neck and started to choke the life out of him. I tried to kill him. This kid tried to cut me in line in fourth or fifth grade. They called him the pop pop. He didn’t pop no more after I kicked him in the stomach. Knocked the wind right out of him, he fell to the ground and cried.

    4. First time I punched somebody in the face was at the restaurant. My target was the busboy. He kept talking as I ate. I went from having a cool and calm conversation with the kid I was with. I got up and whacked the busboy in the face. I was totally remorseless afterwards. I sat back down like nothing happened and casually asked the waitress for more ketchup.

    5. Around 7th grade, I continued to make my stake for absolute power through fighting. I started first with my own neighborhood. My strategy was to start fights with and beat up the kids that lived near me. I punched out the Korean kid that lived up the street from me. I did this right in front of my house. He didn’t fall down but he put his hand on face and started to cry and then went back up the street to his house. He didn’t ride his bike back up, he had to walk it. I punched the kid that lived a street over from me before school started. I bloodied his entire mouth. He had braces too. My hand wasn’t cut, though. Then i punched another kid in the neighborhood after school one day coming off the bus. I put him in a headlock on the bus and punched him in the face, and then he tried to fight me a bit outside but after I tagged him square in the face he was done.

    6. When I was seeing this girl in high school, I was at the pool hall with her brother and I knocked a guy out cold in the pool hall, just to do a little showing off in front of the brother and to give him a story to go home and tell his sister.

    7. Early on, I had an aggressive mind for torturing people. I used to crank call this kid about his dead dog. I was relentless. I had the father screaming hysterically at me. They changed their number, and then through my friend, whose sister was still in contact with that kid's sister, i would get the new number. They ended up tracing my phone number, and I got called to the police station. When I was being questioned, the policeman told me that I was on record as having called the kid's house over 300 times in a weekend. When I was in elementary school, I spent a week cranking a dead kid's house by asking the mother if he was home, and claiming I had just been with him the other day. Once in junior high, I found out this kid was allergic to dandelions, so one day at recess I held him down on the ground and just started ripping dandelions out of the ground and smooshing them up his nose. I once lined a street with my friend’s bike-riding trophies, intending that the cars would swerve into each other or at least put them in a predicament that would make them squirm lots. hehehe.

    8. I used to bully this mentally slow kid every morning before class in elementary school. Mainly physical bullying, punches in the back, enough to inflict some pain. Because he was only able to utter a few words, he was never able to tell on me. I did the same to a few other slow kids.

    9. I used to bully this girl in high school that sat in front of me in French class. I would make fun of her name over and over again in a whisper that only she could hear. I did it year after year. And since we were in French class that year, I would throw in a le fleur per tu. I was relentless. Finally one day I got called down to the office and she was sitting in the office with her grandparents. I acted like she was making it up.

    10. I bullied this one kid so bad that he ended up leaving the school. It started off with him trying to hang around with me bad. I’d start in on his game with women, because he had a clear hang-up about it. On top of that he just had one of those faces you want to punch or kick. I started to make fun of every little thing he did or said. One day at lunch I told him that I could knock him out with one punch to his jaw. He got all nerved up and told a couple other kids what i said and was like what would possess you to say that. Another time he tried to put his hand in my locker (“as if to say what’s that”), and my reflexes were so good that I slammed the locker just in time to catch his arm inside it. Just things like that, I tortured him. He ended up leaving the school.

    11. I had a nice fuck buddy ring going for awhile after high school. I had these two older friends that I manipulated into competing with each other about who could bring me the most new women to sleep with. Then their competition with each other self-destructed and they ended up wanting to kill each other. They would try to destroy each other's reputations and i would fuel them with ideas for doing so. And all the while they were supplying me with women. Check my post in the friends with benefits thread for the full story.

    12. I am naturally strong. When I was nineteen, I pressed 235 over my head starting with the bar on the ground, clean and jerk, but not really with proper form, just powering it up. It was uncanny given that I was only 190, but a solid 190. Never did steroids, but I had such an easy time putting muscle on that you could believe I did. When I used to play after school football, I could literally walk into the end zone with the football carrying five kids from the other team on me. And not run, but just walk with them, and they still wouldn't be able to get me down.

    13. My three childhood heroes were Jim Jones, Joe Stalin and Leona Helmsley.

    14. Once when I was walking with some friends, in sixth grade, on a day off from school. They came to my house and then we left from there to start a fight at another school that didn't have the day off. So as we were walking through the parking lot of my school, apparently there was a teacher's meeting going on. And that same science teacher who ordered ten pizzas to his house one night was there. He saw me through the window and I saw him and he just looked up at me like I was up to no good. Hours later we were walking back to my house and cut through the school again. I saw one of my teacher's cars in the parking lot and thought to myself to break her window. So I threw a rock through the window and it shattered. I forgot the science teacher saw me earlier. The next school day me and the exact group of kids I was with got called down to the office one by one and one of them ratted me out.

    15. I had two girlfriends at once. In high school, my first girlfriend that I had sex with in ninth grade didn't live in the town. So I started to cheat on her with a good girl from my school. We just made out and stuff after school at her house after school. I'd walk her home. I look at this way. She got my dick warmed up for at night with the girlfriend that lived out of town. One day I got caught out there, but by then I had enough power over the first girlfriend that I was able to get away with it.

    16. When I got to high school, my freshman year I was already dead set in gaining absolute power through fighting, by being the toughest. The first victim in my rise to power showed up seated next to me in study hall. He gave me the excuse I wanted when he said something about my mother. i stood up to throw hands. He stood up apparently to fight. And I hit him in the face with a left hook. It was a sweet money left hook. And just like that he fell back into the seat on his fat ass and buried his head onto the desk, with his head inside his arms, as he sits there balling his eyes out, crying like a little girl.

    17. I enjoy stealing. I was in an ice cream shop once and somebody left their cell phone on the table as they were up in line ordering. So I grabbed it real quick and put it in my pocket. Then I upped and left. It got caught on tape. The girl that worked at the ice cream was the girlfriend of a friend of mine and got the tape. She stole the tape from her work and I went to her house when my friend was there and we sat around watching the tape as i stole the cell phone off the table.

    18. The fastest it ever took me to get laid from meeting a women for the first time to being inside of her was about 8 minutes. She was a part of the fuck buddy ring I wrote about on the friends with benefits thread. The second fastest was this hot girl I from the club. Not too long after meeting her, we went out to the car in the parking lot and within seconds of getting inside the car she mounted me on the seat.

    19. I stole a girl off my best friend. he picked me up when he was with her in the car to introduce us. But by the end of the ride she had fallen for me after I chipped a tiny piece of tooth with the top of a 40 ounce beer bottle. I might've spray painted a few buildings, too. Later that night she broke up with him. i was happy because I knew she was a next day lay.

    20. I have an atrocious work ethic and am highly undependable. At my first job, when the boss pointed to the floor at a piece of meat and told me to pick that up, I knew that being a worker bee wasn't for me. I ended up getting fired from that job for giving myself a day off so I could try to get to third base with this girl. The guy in the meat department fired me but gave me the opportunity to stick the day out. i said sure, seeing it as a chance to fuck them over for firing me. So i did. i left them high and dry in their busiest moment after telling a lady I was going into the back to get her meat. I made a getaway through the back door, jumped in my car and took off, reasoning that I can just get a next job as my first job like I did that one. My next job (that I recall) was at a summer camp where I got fired for punching a camp counselor in the face. I made more money robbing and scheming and hustling. I bought a bunch of porn movies from a flea market once and made a profit reselling them. But because I was running my own ship, it was fine. No problems at all. I can go day and night. I got a job once as a dishwasher. That's another job where I perfected my trademark of leaving businesses high and dry in their busiest hour. As it got busier, my attitude is like, 'fuck you. i'm leaving." The best was the seasonal job I got at a big clothing store. I had so much fun there. Once when the manager was away I snuck into her office and vandalized her book on cats. I drew axes over the cat's head and some sexually graphic images. Another time I got the price gun and typed into it that one of the workers there, who had a questionable sexuality, sucked dick. I wasn't able to erase it, though and the guy found the next day. He blamed the guy that he used to have conflicts with all the time and that guy got fired. lol. And then I stole hundred dollar shirts out of the back room by stuffing them down my pant leg.

    21. This business owner used to call me the puppetmaster. I used to soup this dude Damian up to go into this business place and bust the owner's balls. Then Damian would report back to me and ask me for input, and I would be the General telling him how to do it. The owner always figured it out because he would say "damian is too dumb to figure these things out on his own." So there used to be this other kid Danny that would go there that was extremely hot-tempered. His father just died. danny was a big guy and very much too himself. My friend Damian despised people that thought they were tough guys or who others thought were tough guys. Damian's psychology was to want to show them to be not so tough. Damian's father had been a real deal tough guy and got stabbed to death, so Damian had a chip on his shoulder when it came to people like that. So I played it up that Danny was the newest tough guy around. Damian took the bait and before you knew it my friend Damian was 100 percent invested in annoying this kid every chance he got. He did this for about a month. I made sure that Damian's approach was well tailored to Danny's weaknesses. Danny was one of those people that needed quiet around him, he wanted to hear himself think. So whenever Danny was there, Damian, as had been suggested to him, would come in, stand a few feet away from him and just to talk other people that were in the room. Finally, one day Danny blew his top and charged at Damian. It was a big melee. Damian grabbed a blunt instrument and then tried to hit Danny with it. Danny ran out. Next thing I know I get a telephone call from the business owner. "K4M, what the hell did you do?" Then he explained, blaming me as if I operated them by remote control.

    22. I like being worshipped. This girl was on her knees and she had my dick in her hand. She wanted to blow me. I wouldn’t let her give me a bj. I started to slide my right foot up along her arm and onto her shoulder, and then beside her mouth, and she sorta got it that I wanted her to lick my feet. She put the soles of my foot in her mouth, then my toes, carefully slipping and weaving her tongue in between each one, as i gave her verbal commands.

    23. I like to direct sexual activities. At a sex party this past New Years, this girl kept trying to give me head and I wouldn't let her cuz i wanted to use her desire for my dick to control a scene between her and another guy. a couple times she got far enough to kiss the head, but then I would gently push her off by the forehead. But I took her into another room where there was a guy that was alone. So I whispered in her ear to go give that guy some head. She went over to him and started to blow him. Then I came over to place my hand on the back of her head as she bobbed up and down, sometimes holding more firm when I wanted her to maintain a position and being her guide. I had power over her through just the fact she wanted me, and I used that power to gain power over that guy for the fact he desperately needed her to orgasm, so that gave me power over both of them.

    24. I have always been pretty protective of my girlfriends (even when I was cheating on them) and very possessive. I pulled a kid out of class once. I had pretended to be an office worker so the teacher would let him come out and then i threatened to beat him up if he continued to call the girl I was talking to. That took him right out of the picture. I dropped my girl off once and the kid that was in the car made an insulting remark about her. For a second, my eyes rolled into the back of my head and when they came back I had come up with a plan on what to do him. I just turned to him in this really friendly voice and said I have to make a stop to look for a piece of jewelry she lost by a brook. Then I beat him out by the brook and left him there to traverse home ten or so miles. Once when me and a girlfriend were broken up, I came over her house and found that some kid was in her downstairs. So I smacked him in the face, and he went running out of there, and then we had sex. Another time I found out a kid I knew bunked school with her so I waited outside his one night for him to come out and then I kneed his head in like a soccer ball. Another time this spanish kid made an offensive gesture towards my girlfriend during school. I got him on the stairwell on the way to gym class. There were no cameras in the stairwell. He had a book bag on it. So he was tied up. I grabbed him off the ground and rammed him from wall to wall like a sack of potatoes. I was gonna start bashing his face, but he got away in the nick of time and ran to the gym teacher, but the gym teacher was a friend of mine, so that didn’t do him much good. I was at the movie theater once with my girl. I spit on and smashed a kid in the face in a movie theater cuz he was being a douche during the movie, putting his feet on his chair and swearing under his breath all throughout the movie. He and his friends, too, but he ended up being the one that got hurt because he was seated the closest to the exit aisle. I lost a nice watch on him because I swung so fast and hard that literally the band on my watch unhooked itself and flew off my hand into movie theater darkness.

    25. the dean of a community college once told me in his office that I was a sociopath. I grinned. what happened I showed up there that day to sign up for classes and there were no parking spots. So I parked in the fire lane. So I go inside for awhile and then when I come out my car has vanished. The security had it towed. I began to shout mean and hurtful things at the security guards that had it towed. I told the female security guard about what a dyke she was. So then I ended up in the dean's office. And as I sat there and spoke with him, he made his evaluation and concluded that I was a sociopath. And then he told me that I was banned for the entire semester from parking my car on campus grounds.
    That's what the fuck one calls a "whack job." Garbage pail kids like you and Trump do nothing but project your own insecurities and distorted, psycho worldviews.

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    I can't wait for this interview to come out.

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    OK, it's August of 2019 and Trump delivered his $1T tax cut to the rich and the average citizen got handed a long list of government services that have to be cut back, so they will all be poorer and more exploitable in the future. So far, so good.

    His verbal pandering to his popular base by promising to return the country to the thirties and a coal bucket in every basement is fairly harmless. Coal is going down because natural gas is just cheaper, and Chinese solar panels are cheaper yet, and we don't even have to produce them in this country. So his lies about bringing back coal are harmless.

    But now Trump has let his racism and xenophobia start a tariff war with China. US consumers in almost every segment of the economy are the ones who pay for these tariffs, and they are going to have less money in their pockets to buy stuff and drive the economy.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1UR5XZ

    Making consumers a lot poorer with his tariff-tax is going to hurt the profits of every company that sells them stuff. Like farmers, automakers, and the entire tech and software industries. This idiot has erased all the stock market gains this year.
    Now Trump is pissing off the people who live off stock market returns. In other words, the people who matter.

    I predict that the rich are going to abandon Trump in droves and will throw their weight behind someone who promises to normalize global trade relations. Without seriously promising the workers free education or cheap health care or any of those other things that hurt the profits of the Capitalist class.

    And if no Democrat will do this, then there's always Pence.

    *EDIT*
    Trump is brilliant at keeping himself in front of his base, though. But he's running on fumes. Today he promised to cure cancer. And AIDs. "Very shortly". Lol. The guy is a master at saying he has a plan, the best plan, which he will reveal "very shortly", when he has no plan at all.
    This might work for his base, who are desperate for a change, but it doesn't work for guys who are used to getting results.
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    The inconvenient truth about Trump is that he's done exactly what he said he would do. From jobs, GDP growth, tax reform, the elimination of ISIS, the wall, border security, withdrawal from the Iraq nuclear deal and the Paris climate accord, and renegotiating NAFTA and other disastrous trade agreements that hurt Americans... never in recent history has there been a president who has so consistently followed through on campaign promise after campaign promise.

    In response to this unprecedented success (which has earned him the highest ever approval rating among republicans and also leaves him heavily favored to win 2020), the left and their media allies have responded hysterically with wild calls of racism -- that he's a 'dolt-in-chief' who is somehow unqualified or unfit for office. Never mind that he's a self-made billionaire with an ivy league education, and never mind that he owns hundreds of bushiness, founded a television program which earned millions of viewers every week for well over a decade, and brilliantly executed a rather innovative self-branding strategy that clinched him the highest possible political office as a substantial underdog.

    Somehow in the view of the left, all these feats are merely indicative of an unqualified imbecile who was only able to earn the support of his base by means of 'verbal pandering'.

    His trade wars? Racist.
    Walls? Racist.
    Immigration reform? Racist.
    You can leave the country if you don't like it? Racist again.
    Calling a rat infested city a rat infested city? Yep, that's racist too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    US consumers in almost every segment of the economy are the ones who pay for these tariffs, and they are going to have less money in their pockets to buy stuff and drive the economy.
    Just like there's going to be direct and indirect costs associated with tariffs, so too are there going to be direct and indirect costs associated unfair trade agreements. This isn't new or groundbreaking information; in fact as a concept it was even alluded to in the very article that you cited: "Trump has said bad trade deals with China and others have cost millions of American jobs".

    While the article you cited merely mentions Trump's claim as a footnote, a wide number of other sources are willing to discuss it in great detail. For an example, according to the economic policy institute, trade deals like NAFTA hurt Americans and have resulted in tremendous job losses throughout the country.

    Authors for PBS News also seem to agree: "The inconvenient truth is that we've been buying roughly half a trillion dollars worth of goods more from abroad than we are exporting and we have been doing so for decades. In 2014, our exports of goods and services amounted to $2.4 trillion, while our imports amounted to $2.9 trillion -- implying that our deficit was a whopping $500 billion.

    Why is our trade deficit a problem? Because the deficit subtracts from the U.S. GDP and hurts the lower middle class. By outsourcing jobs, it has relegated millions of U.S. workers -- especially the low-skilled ones -- to the underemployment rolls."


    Just like Trump was able to renegotiate trade agreements with Canada and Mexico, so too will he do so with China. For whatever reason this seems to trigger the left, so much so that they refer to tariffs or other American first policies as somehow being the result of 'racism', almost as if they'd rather see America do poorly rather than see it succeed with Trump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    OK, it's August of 2019 and Trump delivered his $1T tax cut to the rich
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I predict that the rich are going to abandon Trump in droves
    Ah, yes... the good ol' 'the rich are so upset with their $1T tax cut that they're going to abandon Trump in droves' argument. Left-wing pundits have been predicting Trump's downfall since he announced his candidacy; since then he won the GOP nomination, clinched the presidency, and is now heavily favored to win 2020. It's been win after win for Trump, and meanwhile, based solely on the recent debates, all the DNC candidates want to do is talk about racism, reparations for slavery and remind people of their privilege... all while doubling down on the failed political strategy of calling half the country deplorable.

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    Your views are very interesting to me, @Deprecator. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deprecator View Post
    The inconvenient truth about Trump is that he's done exactly what he said he would do. From jobs, GDP growth, tax reform, the elimination of ISIS, the wall, border security, withdrawal from the Iraq nuclear deal and the Paris climate accord, and renegotiating NAFTA and other disastrous trade agreements that hurt Americans... never in recent history has there been a president who has so consistently followed through on campaign promise after campaign promise.

    In response to this unprecedented success (which has earned him the highest ever approval rating among republicans and also leaves him heavily favored to win 2020), the left and their media allies have responded hysterically with wild calls of racism -- that he's a 'dolt-in-chief' who is somehow unqualified or unfit for office. Never mind that he's a self-made billionaire with an ivy league education, and never mind that he owns hundreds of bushiness, founded a television program which earned millions of viewers every week for well over a decade, and brilliantly executed a rather innovative self-branding strategy that clinched him the highest possible political office as a substantial underdog.

    Somehow in the view of the left, all these feats are merely indicative of an unqualified imbecile who was only able to earn the support of his base by means of 'verbal pandering'.

    His trade wars? Racist.
    Walls? Racist.
    Immigration reform? Racist.
    You can leave the country if you don't like it? Racist again.
    Calling a rat infested city a rat infested city? Yep, that's racist too.



    Just like there's going to be direct and indirect costs associated with tariffs, so too are there going to be direct and indirect costs associated unfair trade agreements. This isn't new or groundbreaking information; in fact as a concept it was even alluded to in the very article that you cited: "Trump has said bad trade deals with China and others have cost millions of American jobs".

    While the article you cited merely mentions Trump's claim as a footnote, a wide number of other sources are willing to discuss it in great detail. For an example, according to the economic policy institute, trade deals like NAFTA hurt Americans and have resulted in tremendous job losses throughout the country.

    Authors for PBS News also seem to agree: "The inconvenient truth is that we've been buying roughly half a trillion dollars worth of goods more from abroad than we are exporting and we have been doing so for decades. In 2014, our exports of goods and services amounted to $2.4 trillion, while our imports amounted to $2.9 trillion -- implying that our deficit was a whopping $500 billion.

    Why is our trade deficit a problem? Because the deficit subtracts from the U.S. GDP and hurts the lower middle class. By outsourcing jobs, it has relegated millions of U.S. workers -- especially the low-skilled ones -- to the underemployment rolls."


    Just like Trump was able to renegotiate trade agreements with Canada and Mexico, so too will he do so with China. For whatever reason this seems to trigger the left, so much so that they refer to tariffs or other American first policies as somehow being the result of 'racism', almost as if they'd rather see America do poorly rather than see it succeed with Trump.



    Ah, yes... the good ol' 'the rich are so upset with their $1T tax cut that they're going to abandon Trump in droves' argument. Left-wing pundits have been predicting Trump's downfall since he announced his candidacy; since then he won the GOP nomination, clinched the presidency, and is now heavily favored to win 2020. It's been win after win for Trump, and meanwhile, based solely on the recent debates, all the DNC candidates want to do is talk about racism, reparations for slavery and remind people of their privilege... all while doubling down on the failed political strategy of calling half the country deplorable.
    I should have clarified my assertion that the rich will now abandon Trump. It isn't because they are dissatisfied with the $1T tax cut, but rather because they don't think he can pull off another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    You want to talk about "whack jobs?"



    That's what the fuck one calls a "whack job." Garbage pail kids like you and Trump do nothing but project your own insecurities and distorted, psycho worldviews.
    Willing to bet 99% of his post is utter bullshit anyway. Guy sounds like a fucking cartoon character.

    "When I used to play after school football, I could literally walk into the end zone with the football carrying five kids from the other team on me. And not run, but just walk with them, and they still wouldn't be able to get me down."

    Sounds like something out of Wyle Cyote

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    How America Ends <- from The Atlantic

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...a-ends/600757/

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    Almost everyone knows that Republicans are now the party of the white, non-college-educated class, and this class is shrinking.

    https://www.people-press.org/2018/03...raphic-groups/

    Republicans can, of course, reinvent themselves to represent young people, educated people, people of color, and immigrants, but that doesn't seem to be happening. It's almost as if there is some basic aversion among Republicans against these groups.
    They can't even convincingly lie about it anymore: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...an-kkk-sot.cnn
    And people are beginning to wake up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnljGHVld9I


    What I want to know is, what will a Party do when they face the likelihood of never winning a fair election again?

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    This article isn't about the time since Trump's election, but it does explain what led to it.

    https://www.alternet.org/2019/12/how...ocratic-party/

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