LIE or ILE (video typing)?

[Zero]

https://youtu.be/sKiXxUjSDvc
This is Wren Weichman. Is he LIE or ILE or some other type even? He talks like me and has very similar facial expressions specially the eyes! But I'm not as excited about video editing.

[Exodus]

fun vs stress ( vocab)
enjoying group emotional experiences
enthusiasm about new tech
amazing
the physical experience of driving
open and collaborative atmosphere
...

Seems like an Alpha extrovert to me.

[Adam Strange]

He seems like an extrovert with Fe. EIE, maybe? His face shows pretty much everything that he is feeling.
His enthusiasm for new tech points toward ILE, but I've seen an EIE do the same thing.

I don't think he is LIE. LIE's just don't seem that giddy, even when presenting ideas that they really like.

[Soupman]

He's too emotive and non threatening, Alpha SF - most likely, leaning SEI the energy is subjued

[Zero]

fun vs stress ( vocab)
enjoying group emotional experiences
enthusiasm about new tech
amazing
the physical experience of driving
open and collaborative atmosphere
...

Seems like an Alpha extrovert to me.

Yeah probably ILE. Do ILEs show in their face, everything that they feel?

[Zero]

He seems like an extrovert with Fe. EIE, maybe? His face shows pretty much everything that he is feeling.
His enthusiasm for new tech points toward ILE, but I've seen an EIE do the same thing.

I don't think he is LIE. LIE's just don't seem that giddy, even when presenting ideas that they really like.

No EIE is not his type, I believe. I envy his enthusiasm about tech and his ability to make the audience enthusiastic about tech also.

[Zero]

He's too emotive and non threatening, Alpha SF - most likely, leaning SEI the energy is subjued

He is an extravert for sure

[Exodus]

Yeah probably ILE. Do ILEs show in their face, everything that they feel?

It depends. Some are animated, others are more subdued. I'd have to watch more to see if it was lead or mobilizing.

[Zero]

It depends. Some are animated, others are more subdued. I'd have to watch more to see if it was lead or mobilizing.

He is more animated for sure. But he has Fe mobilizing and not leading

[Soupman]

He is an extravert for sure

Sociability Ranking-1.jpg

I find this table extremely helpful, sensory types are extroverted whilst intuitives are introverted when it comes to observable behaviour.

Now when an intuitive behaves in an extroverted manner that is just the superego display, the same applies for sensory types.

His energy is not high - a specific feat missing from the graph but it is a useful heuristic.

[Exodus]

He is more animated for sure. But he has Fe mobilizing and not leading

Why?

[Zero]

Why?

He is a logical type I think. Been watching his vlogs for some time. Do you think he is ethical?

[Zero]

Sociability Ranking-1.jpg

I find this table extremely helpful, sensory types are extroverted whilst intuitives are introverted when it comes to observable behaviour.

Now when an intuitive behaves in an extroverted manner that is just the superego display, the same applies for sensory types.

His energy is not high - a specific feat missing from the graph but it is a useful heuristic.

Interesting point. But I still believe he is extroverted

[maniac]

nvm

[Exodus]

He is a logical type I think. Been watching his vlogs for some time. Do you think he is ethical?

No -- you obviously know more about him than the people in this thread, so I was just trying to encourage you to provide some observations as evidence. So again, why logical?

[Sanguine Miasma]

First I can hear very clear attachment to direct life experiences. So my guess is neither.

[FDG]

Could be either, but he's a bit more animated than most LIEs or ILEs.

[Sanguine Miasma]

Yeah probably ILE. Do ILEs show in their face, everything that they feel?

Pretty much uncontrollable but it is more like other dimensional. It is not really that related direct experiences. You'd pretty much run bunch of interpretive stuff in your head.

[Zero]

Pretty much uncontrollable but it is more like other dimensional. It is not really that related direct experiences. You'd pretty much run bunch of interpretive stuff in your head.

So what type do you think he is? An ethical type?

[Zero]

Could be either, but he's a bit more animated than most LIEs or ILEs.

Yes that is why I am not sure

[Zero]

No -- you obviously know more about him than the people in this thread, so I was just trying to encourage you to provide some observations as evidence. So again, why logical?

I intuitively said I can not think of any solid example, but the way he explains how things work is logical, not the way any of the ethical types explain things, he has a vlog about "don't copy tutorials" for example, and there he talks rationally about it. The thing is he is always inside his projects and work, the ILEs I have met are not so "inside" their work and projects. He sounds more like a LIE than ILE, but again he is too enthusiastic to be LIE

[FDG]

I intuitively said I can not think of any solid example, but the way he explains how things work is logical, not the way any of the ethical types explain things, he has a vlog about "don't copy tutorials" for example, and there he talks rationally about it. The thing is he is always inside his projects and work, the ILEs I have met are not so "inside" their work and projects. He sounds more like a LIE than ILE, but again he is too enthusiastic to be LIE

LIEs are also enthousiastic, it´s one of the main descriptors in socionics, but he is fairly animated, well he could just be a fairly animated person irrespective of type (in enneagram he seems to be an E-7)

[Zero]

LIEs are also enthousiastic, it´s one of the main descriptors in socionics, but he is fairly animated, well he could just be a fairly animated person irrespective of type (in enneagram he seems to be an E-7)

Good point. So you think he is LIE?

[FDG]

Good point. So you think he is LIE?

No, I´ve got the same doubt you have...

[Exodus]

I think I would somewhat prefer ILE over ESE. He does seem to have a lot of stamina and enthusiasm for talking about the "boring" technical aspects of his work:



And is maybe a little bit more hesitant and distractable than I might expect from an ESE.

I intuitively said I can not think of any solid example, but the way he explains how things work is logical, not the way any of the ethical types explain things, he has a vlog about "don't copy tutorials" for example, and there he talks rationally about it. The thing is he is always inside his projects and work, the ILEs I have met are not so "inside" their work and projects. He sounds more like a LIE than ILE, but again he is too enthusiastic to be LIE

Actually, it is common for ILEs to be really dedicated to projects and their work, possibly even more than LIEs. ILEs tend to be more focused on conveying their passion for it to others (say, by making a Youtube video about it).

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PS: this thread should be in the Famous People forum.

[Zero]

I think I would somewhat prefer ILE over ESE. He does seem to have a lot of stamina and enthusiasm for talking about the "boring" technical aspects of his work:



And is maybe a little bit more hesitant and distractable than I might expect from an ESE.



Actually, it is common for ILEs to be really dedicated to projects and their work, possibly even more than LIEs. ILEs tend to be more focused on conveying their passion for it to others (say, by making a Youtube video about it).

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PS: this thread should be in the Famous People forum.

Yes I am not very open to everyone about my work
Plus he is not that famous

[Delilah]

I'm trying to type some people at random to counter bias.

So...how about LSE? I did also consider SLI but seems so far people are bucking it for some reason (?)