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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    haha I was teasing, but I did find it a little odd how my questionnaire was seemingly ignored in favor of test links. if I thought tests were a reliable method to rely on to figure out one's type then I wouldn't have made this thread.

    thanks I scored IEI on the second test you linked. what makes you think LII? IEI? my test results or something more?
    You seemed to have the most trouble with the Se and Te questions in the questionnaire. Btw, SEI could also be an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mclane View Post
    You seemed to have the most trouble with the Se and Te questions in the questionnaire. Btw, SEI could also be an option.
    yuh. I keep scoring ILE-3Ne on the test you linked, though? I'm resourceful and quick-witted and I'm extremely good at making people laugh, but I wouldn't say I can figure out how something works at the drop of a hat. I've always considered myself slightly above average, in terms of intelligence, which is probably why the LII-Ne typing threw me off at first. not that other types can't be clever, too, but it seems odd for someone who values Ti and Ne to... not be? err I don't know. these descriptions are beginning to read a lot like glorified horoscopes to me.

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    To be honest, you seem self-aware enough so I don't know why it's hard for you to find a type for yourself.

    If you have read through the quadra values one should stand out to you:
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Alpha
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Beta
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Gamma
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Delta

    Then find your hidden agenda, whichever would apply to you the most throughout your life, by pretending you are each type and considering the implications of each one. It's the one that makes you blush and that you may feel you might have a hard time justifying to others.
    http://www.socionics.com/articles/hiddena.htm
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-hidden-agenda

    I agree with any 1D Se type being apparent: LII, IEI, ILI, EII. You are the kind of person who wants the heavy lifting done for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    To be honest, you seem self-aware enough so I don't know why it's hard for you to find a type for yourself.

    If you have read through the quadra values one should stand out to you:
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Alpha
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Beta
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Gamma
    http://sociotype.com/socionics/quadras/Delta

    Then find your hidden agenda, whichever would apply to you the most throughout your life, by pretending you are each type and considering the implications of each one. It's the one that makes you blush and that you may feel you might have a hard time justifying to others.
    http://www.socionics.com/articles/hiddena.htm
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-hidden-agenda
    heya

    Alpha is obviously the most appealing quadra, but I think it makes romantic relationships within the Alpha quadra seem kind of shallow? I'm not looking for a lifetime partner or anything but I do wanna exchange real emotions with them every now and then I'm a romantic at heart. I don't think I avoid serious conversations, either. I can do big groups, small groups, serious conversations, lighthearted conversations, etc. I just wanna be involved in everything, all the time, and I'd like to be pals with everybody. with that said, I have zero respect for power and I spit in the face of anyone who tries to use their power *cough* imaginary safety net *cough* to push me to do things I don't wanna do.

    hmm... going by the first link you posted, I relate to Fe HA, Ne HA, Ti HA, Te HA, and maybe Fi HA?

    I agree with any 1D Se type being apparent: LII, IEI, ILI, EII. You are the kind of person who wants the heavy lifting done for you.
    tru tho

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    have you ever felt a sense of sadistic glee for being inefficient

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    I've looked over your reponses other than the answers to the bad questions of the Form and I'm very sure you're ENTj. The more I read your posts, the more it jumps into the eyes now. I won't go over the reasons, but I recommend you to look over the descriptions, especially the subtype descriptions for ENTj to figure out what subtype seems best fit.

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    I thought you were spider until I saw a picture of you. so whatever that is worth in terms of typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    have you ever felt a sense of sadistic glee for being inefficient
    who hasn't

    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    I've looked over your reponses other than the answers to the bad questions of the Form and I'm very sure you're ENTj. The more I read your posts, the more it jumps into the eyes now. I won't go over the reasons, but I recommend you to look over the descriptions, especially the subtype descriptions for ENTj to figure out what subtype seems best fit.
    neither, really. if i had to pick one of the two, i'd probably choose LIE-Ni, but even that's eh.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    I thought you were spider until I saw a picture of you. so whatever that is worth in terms of typing.
    awesome. what was their type? ILI? LSE? LSI? SEE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    who hasn't
    ......

    IEI confirm

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    ......

    IEI confirm
    I don't relate to the whole victim complex tho they're always whining about being raped and/or their abusive (ex-)partners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    I don't relate to the whole victim complex tho they're always whining about being raped and/or their abusive (ex-)partners.
    you don't need to be that literal about it. it's not like Ni egos need to have PTSD necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    you don't need to be that literal about it. it's not like Ni egos need to have PTSD necessarily.
    oh I'm not. I'm not fully sold on the existence of personality categorizing systems, but the few confirmed IEIs I've known are always relaying their sexual or romantic experiences with a strong victim-esque edge. that doesn't account for all of 'em, it's just a pattern I've noticed, so it was written with a half-joking, half-serious tone. there are other aspects of the personality type I don't relate to either.

    and you've got it wrong, niffer. PTSD is strictly reserved for ESIs. learn2stereotype

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    @paranoid

    Aside from the sense of fluidness in our interactions together (which come to think of it, I've felt from a few EII's I've met throughout my life in the same way), I remember strongly thinking you VI-d as EII to me from that pic in the members thread when you posted.

    EII final final for you from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    @paranoid

    Aside from the sense of fluidness in our interactions together (which come to think of it, I've felt from a few EII's I've met throughout my life in the same way), I remember strongly thinking you VI-d as EII to me from that pic in the members thread when you posted.

    EII final final for you from me.
    based on what, though? is that a capybara?

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    yes it is

    (your post below)
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1179803

    compared to:

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFj-by-Beskova


    You're basically this.


    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1180080

    And above is an example of you giving emotional support in an EII fashion, which is something I could never do and admired.

    Anyone doubting the reasoning for this typing can read the above link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    I don't relate to the whole victim complex tho they're always whining about being raped and/or their abusive (ex-)partners.
    They're just masochists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    yes it is

    (your post below)
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1179803

    compared to:

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...NFj-by-Beskova


    You're basically this.


    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1180080

    And above is an example of you giving emotional support in an EII fashion, which is something I could never do and admired.

    Anyone doubting the reasoning for this typing can read the above link.
    oh wow, that VI is actually kind of accurate the female EII portrait is hit and miss though.

    I don't think "feminine" is the first word that comes to mind when people think of me. unless it's a cold, feminine aristocracy? or a total goofball because I've been told I have a childlike nature. I rarely yelled or caused scenes in class, but I did talk back to my teachers. I did well in literary and humanitarian based subjects, but I wasn't particularly studious. I had the highest grades up until... 9th? grade. I grew up in a traditional household but I talked back to my parents, too. I don't do housework, ever. I will not submit to anyone who tries to tell me what to do or how or why. I don't care who it is. I don't care for half of the shit mentioned in this description, nor 90% of the female-centric type descriptions.

    seriously though. fuck that housewife bullshit, fuck it right in the ass. I'll cuss all I want. this was relatable:

    From real life of INFj female: "When I read E. Berne's 'Games That People Play,' I thought: which story corresponds the most to my childhood? And I remembered that when I was small, my favorite fairy tale was about the princess who never had to do anything, because by magic everything around her was automatically done. I dream precisely about this, that someone would come and do everything that is necessary, so that entire life I wouldn't have to do anything."
    (I'm laughing while typing this, but seriously. I have better things to do with my time than to be someone's bitch.)

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    Well a lot of that was written based on Russian culture of at least a few decades ago (Beskova is not bad.. most of the other European authors like Strati are a lot deeper into that -- it's either those or uber-stereotyped articles that don't give you as much of a 'real feel' for what the types are like as regular humans just trying to get by in regular society). You'd be a more modern Westernized EII female compared to that I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Well a lot of that was written based on Russian culture of at least a few decades ago (Beskova is not bad.. most of the other European authors like Strati are a lot deeper into that -- it's either those or uber-stereotyped articles that don't give you as much of a 'real feel' for what the types are like as regular humans just trying to get by in regular society). You'd be a more modern Westernized EII female compared to that I guess.
    fair point, but where can I get a 'real feel' for what these types are like? aside from the excessive focus some authors put on how each type conducts themselves at home and in marriage, in relation to their respective genders, I don't think the descriptions are that far-off from reality. unfortunately, I can't read Strati's articles because they're too negative for my taste. but, in your opinion, what would a modern Westernized EII be like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    fair point, but where can I get a 'real feel' for what these types are like? aside from the excessive focus some authors put on how each type conducts themselves at home and in marriage, in relation to their respective genders, I don't think the descriptions are that far-off from reality. unfortunately, I can't read Strati's articles because they're too negative for my taste. but, in your opinion, what would a modern Westernized EII be like?
    Probably conditioned to be a bit more aggressive, self-assertive, and androgynous than the typical 'Eastern Europe in the 80's and before that'-originating articles suggest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    fair point, but where can I get a 'real feel' for what these types are like? aside from the excessive focus some authors put on how each type conducts themselves at home and in marriage, in relation to their respective genders, I don't think the descriptions are that far-off from reality. unfortunately, I can't read Strati's articles because they're too negative for my taste. but, in your opinion, what would a modern Westernized EII be like?
    In my experience, EII's are perfect introverted housewives, clean, trustworthy, obedient, and unfailingly helpful. Only when you look closely do you see a person with considerable backbone in there, who is designed to go to church every week and never make a public fuss, but will fearlessly defuse the anger of an asshole and will diplomatically guide them to good behavior without being obvious about it. And they never, never swear, because that is not what ladies do, and they are ladies. And while they do like sex, you might never know that.

    You certainly wouldn't say of them: "i think if it weren't for that horrible mouth of yours then some people not me of course but i think some people would find you somewhat kind of attractive in a furry little animal sort of way"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    And they never, never swear, because that is not what ladies do, and they are ladies. And while they do like sex, you might never know that.

    You certainly wouldn't say of them: "i think if it weren't for that horrible mouth of yours then some people not me of course but i think some people would find you somewhat kind of attractive in a furry little animal sort of way"
    You are also kind of from an older generation too Adam.

    There are a couple EII ladies on this forum who would swear or can be sassy sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    You are also kind of from an older generation too Adam.

    There are a couple EII ladies on this forum who would swear or can be sassy sometimes.
    Yeah, niffer. I'm ready for that rocking chair.

    I kind of expected some pushback from my slightly tongue-in-cheek description. Had I been describing my duals rather than my semi-duals, that pushback would have come with a flame thrower.

    But there is, I think, some essential truth in my description, since it was formed from three EII's that I know IRL. Swearing or not, they do try to do the right thing and project the right image. More than other types, I think.

    EII's are good at defusing assholes. I was raging earlier today in the Economics thread, and with just a few words, @Birdie magically calmed me down and put me right in the barn to chew on hay. I was astounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I was raging earlier today in the Economics thread, and with just a few words, Birdie magically calmed me down and put me right in the barn to chew on hay. I was astounded.
    She's also been known to use the f word from time to time in effective moments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Probably conditioned to be a bit more aggressive, self-assertive, and androgynous than the typical 'Eastern Europe in the 80's and before that'-originating articles suggest.
    perhaps, but the ones I've known actually do fit the description quite well. they're not as mousy, but they are lovely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    In my experience, EII's are perfect introverted housewives, clean, trustworthy, obedient, and unfailingly helpful. Only when you look closely do you see a person with considerable backbone in there, who is designed to go to church every week and never make a public fuss, but will fearlessly defuse the anger of an asshole and will diplomatically guide them to good behavior without being obvious about it. And they never, never swear, because that is not what ladies do, and they are ladies. And while they do like sex, you might never know that.

    You certainly wouldn't say of them: "i think if it weren't for that horrible mouth of yours then some people not me of course but i think some people would find you somewhat kind of attractive in a furry little animal sort of way"
    that's the impression I get from them, too. I wouldn't say they're as obedient (in modern society) as the description suggests, but my mother is an EII and the way she handles people is incomprehensible to me. she's so kind and patient and loving and, if it weren't for her, I'd probably be a real piece of shit. this one time my parents invited a family friend over and, out of the blue, this guy just started shouting at my mom for her religious beliefs, while she sat there, politely waiting for him to finish, then she calmly and rationally explained her POV to him, which just made him angrier, although that wasn't her intention. if you didn't know any better, you'd think her behavior was indicative of a weak character, but no. she's probably the toughest person I know, and I'm not just saying that because she's my mom. my friends prefer her over their own mothers, too. if someone, anyone, spoke to me like that, I'd knock them down several pegs and throw them out of my house so quick they'd get whiplash. or I'd argue back.

    (the quote in my signature is from the movie Hick, starring Chloe Grace Moretz. I do have a mouth on me, though.)

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    Lol hmm. You sound like an Fi ego alright.

    Yeah maybe you could be ESI after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    Lol hmm. You sound like an Fi ego alright.

    Yeah maybe you could be ESI after all.
    I don't know about that. I relate even less the to the ESI type profiles. No sense of duty, nor respect for authority, aside from my own. I'm not even entirely sure that I'm an introvert. the point is that I wouldn't take kindly to someone yelling at me/calling me names, which is independent from the argument itself, and I don't think having self-respect is indicative of Fi ego, but maybe it is and I've misunderstood the information elements.

    I think there's a difference between an open and clean debate and someone purposefully trying to take you down with their words/aggression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    if i had to pick one of the two, i'd probably choose LIE-Ni, but even that's eh.
    I thought so too. Too gregarious (you have the potential at least, sometimes the upbringing and life's experiences also shape the person to a degree, to tone down / emphasize certain functions, imo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    I thought so too. Too gregarious (you have the potential at least, sometimes the upbringing and life's experiences also shape the person to a degree, to tone down / emphasize certain functions, imo).
    yeah, probably. it's hard to type myself because most of the time I just lounge around with a poker face, but the moment something new, interesting, or different happens, I jump from being caught in the throes of boredom to being hyper-active and chatty, then I regress back into a state of inertia once the moment passes. I messed with a friend of mine the other day by telling them I fell down the stairs and broke my foot, then I sent him a picture of my regular foot, unbroken, but he still bought it, so I told him I was joking, then a few hours later I ran into a wall and broke my toe for real. Divine intervention anyone? but yeah, I have a wide circle of acquaintances/friends so I doubt my [perceived] introversion sometimes.

    any other ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    yeah, probably. it's hard to type myself because most of the time I just lounge around with a poker face, but the moment something new, interesting, or different happens, I jump from being caught in the throes of boredom to being hyper-active and chatty, then I regress back into a state of inertia once the moment passes. I messed with a friend of mine the other day by telling them I fell down the stairs and broke my foot, then I sent him a picture of my regular foot, unbroken, but he still bought it, so I told him I was joking, then a few hours later I ran into a wall and broke my toe for real. Divine intervention anyone? but yeah, I have a wide circle of acquaintances/friends so I doubt my [perceived] introversion sometimes.

    any other ideas?
    ENTj can be pretty chaotic. They like structure, but with people then can be quite like as you described. That's 'cos their dual is always serious and they like to snap him/her out of it, to get them to enjoy life for a second / have a laugh. You are just gonna have to be able to see it yourself, I mean you type. If you can't have a way you can see it, then you are going to jump around all the time. It's hard though, it's probably the hardest part of all about socionics.

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    Many make a mistake thinking Fe role means the person is an F. This is not so. The thing about role, is that the person uses it a lot on/among people. The whole super ego block as a matter of fact. This is quite commonly accepted in socionics. So if you are ENTj, prepare to see a lot of Fe and talk about Si (trying to show yourself a peaceful person, nice, gentle and unconflicting), including sexual jokes or talk about romance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    ENTj can be pretty chaotic. They like structure, but with people then can be quite like as you described. That's 'cos their dual is always serious and they like to snap him/her out of it, to get them to enjoy life for a second / have a laugh. You are just gonna have to be able to see it yourself, I mean you type. If you can't have a way you can see it, then you are going to jump around all the time. It's hard though, it's probably the hardest part of all about socionics.

    Many make a mistake thinking Fe role means the person is an F. This is not so. The thing about role, is that the person uses it a lot on/among people. The whole super ego block as a matter of fact. This is quite commonly accepted in socionics. So if you are ENTj, prepare to see a lot of Fe and talk about Si (trying to show yourself a peaceful person, nice, gentle and unconflicting), including sexual jokes or talk about romance.
    hmm I don't like structure, but I do like making people laugh. I've been told I'm a fluid conversationalist, but I wouldn't say I make a show of it, like, "hey guise, check out how nice and gentle I am!" where's the Te, though? Se HA? I haven't showered in five days - is that Si PoLR?



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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    hmm I don't like structure, but I do like making people laugh. I've been told I'm a fluid conversationalist, but I wouldn't say I make a show of it, like, "hey guise, check out how nice and gentle I am!" where's the Te, though? Se HA? I haven't showered in five days - is that Si PoLR?


    I think there is not much point in discussing your type. You will keep dodging and jumping around, just 'cos you enjoy the process of the whole thing more than the result. You are getting a kick out of socializing on here and don't really want to "find" your type, since that would mean having to say bye-bye, according to how you have set up your own game on here (see the name of the thread). Eric Bern talks about a game, when the person asks for help and many helpers try to help him, but the person rejects each one's help because their advice or help is lacking in this or that. In the end the person does what he wants to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee View Post
    I think there is not much point in discussing your type. You will keep dodging and jumping around, just 'cos you enjoy the process of the whole thing more than the result. You are getting a kick out of socializing on here and don't really want to "find" your type, since that would mean having to say bye-bye, according to how you have set up your own game on here (see the name of the thread). Eric Bern talks about a game, when the person asks for help and many helpers try to help him, but the person rejects each one's help because their advice or help is lacking in this or that. In the end the person does what he wants to do.
    I was teasing you with the Si PoLR comment, my bad. I just didn't see how describing to me how each function manifests in the LIE type is helpful unless you relate it to something I've said/done so I can see the correlation, too. if one person tells me I have weak Te and Se, but the next person tells me I could be LIE (Te ego, Se HA) then, naturally, it's cause for confusion. you're not the first person to type me LIE so please don't think I'm disregarding your opinion. I actually do have difficulty with Si-related matters, and it's been that way for as long as I can remember. case in point:

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...16#post1166316

    I appreciate everyone's help, btw. sorry if I upset you.

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    b/c she also never settles on a type and argues for/against almost all of them at one point or another. dunno, you have the same vibe<<in that sense..thus I have no type to give yeeeee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paranoid View Post
    that's the impression I get from them, too. I wouldn't say they're as obedient (in modern society) as the description suggests, but my mother is an EII and the way she handles people is incomprehensible to me. she's so kind and patient and loving and, if it weren't for her, I'd probably be a real piece of shit. this one time my parents invited a family friend over and, out of the blue, this guy just started shouting at my mom for her religious beliefs, while she sat there, politely waiting for him to finish, then she calmly and rationally explained her POV to him, which just made him angrier, although that wasn't her intention. if you didn't know any better, you'd think her behavior was indicative of a weak character, but no. she's probably the toughest person I know, and I'm not just saying that because she's my mom. my friends prefer her over their own mothers, too. if someone, anyone, spoke to me like that, I'd knock them down several pegs and throw them out of my house so quick they'd get whiplash. or I'd argue back.
    I don't understand why you type EII in light of all this. Fi base can actually work for you yeah, so why not ESI.

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    @Myst ok I changed it for you, but if adam strange and I don't dualize in 3 weeks...

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    ESI master race

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    let's make ESIs great again

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    lungs already did but we can bandwagon this thing until it sucks again

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