Hypersensitivity to voice tone

[Delilah]

Yes to this.



How it is said tends to matter to me alot more than what it is said.

For me one thing that somewhat helped was adjust my expectations and accept that a lot of people are on a very different (much lower) sensitivity level - this was difficult to come to terms since I'd tended in the past to treat others with same gloves I'd prefer to be treated;

That being said, this is just simple off-hand advice you can try out for yourself whether it can make things easier for you.

[Chae]

On the flipside, what I saw is that Beta members are least sensitive to it. @Horatio had an account of Beta members assemble and it was extra noisy My SLE brother is completely unaware, he talks mega loud all the time and doesn't care much about voice tone (unless he senses disrespect of course, but more in what is said and not how).

[Singu]

On the flipside, what I saw is that Beta members are least sensitive to it. @Horatio had an account of Beta members assemble and it was extra noisy My SLE brother is completely unaware, he talks mega loud all the time and doesn't care much about voice tone (unless he senses disrespect of course, but more in what is said and not how).

lol I'm a Beta and I'm hypersensitive to voice. It's probably better if people are speaking in groups, then it wouldn't bother me as much.

[Chae]

lol I'm a Beta and I'm hypersensitive to voice. It's probably better if people are speaking in groups, then it wouldn't bother me as much.

Needless to say it applies to the extroverts more than introverts

[The Exception]

Is there any chance you could be on the high functioning end of the autism spectrum? My aspergers friends are all like this. lol

I never officially got diagnosed but after reading about it, Aspergers is likely.

[Hermit Soul]

I'm a sensitive person so I do get slightly hurt when people speak to me in a loud voice, but I tend to feel much more hurt when I hear harsh words spoken by people. If a person speaks to me in a loud voice without saying any harsh words to me vs a person speaking to me in a soft voice with a bunch of harsh words, I'm more inclined to feel hurt by the latter than the former.

I think it really depends on what a person is saying to me. I tend to place much more importance on the content of a speech than people's voice tone. I personally have low tolerance of people yelling at me, and I have to say that it's not the loud voice tone itself that bothers me, but it's the harsh words that comes along with the loud voice tone that bothers me. ><
There can be two people speaking to me in a loud voice, but depending on the content of their speech, I'll interpret it differently and I will have different feelings about it.
If a person speaks to me in a loud voice without any harsh words aimed at me, I'll think that this person probably has a bad day and is taking it out on me. I'll be slightly hurt, but I wouldn't take it too personally.
On the other hand, if a person speaks to me in a loud voice with a bunch of harsh words aimed at my character, I'll think that this person probably dislike me and is disrespecting me, and I'll be deeply hurt and feel betrayed.

[Myst]

Needless to say it applies to the extroverts more than introverts

Lol the two beta introverts in the family (brother and me) together will ensure an extremely loud atmosphere pretty well. ESI-Se mom can decently match it in some cases, too, though she definitely does not do it in the Merry style.

[Chae]

Lol the two beta introverts in the family (brother and me) together will ensure an extremely loud atmosphere pretty well. ESI-Se mom can decently match it in some cases, too, though she definitely does not do it in the Merry style.

I refer to the psych introverts rather than those in socionics, should've clarified this. ESI - oh yesss, they adapt to a certain point but don't go out as much. My mom's also ESI She's not very creative in her merriness as I observed it. She sticks to what she thinks is commonly right and doesn't offend in any way.

[ashlesha]

The only way I can get a word in when my SLE brother and LSI dad are together is to get in their way, interrupt, and yell.

[Pole]

I never officially got diagnosed but after reading about it, Aspergers is likely.

I'm not officially diagnosed either but I believe I have it, and have been told by a couple of aspie friends that they believe I have it too.

[Pinnochio]

I never officially got diagnosed but after reading about it, Aspergers is likely.

Likely

[LuckyOne]

This is a great thread because it can help not only those who suffer from the problem, but also those who might accidentally cause the suffering

On the flipside, what I saw is that Beta members are least sensitive to it. @Horatio had an account of Beta members assemble and it was extra noisy My SLE brother is completely unaware, he talks mega loud all the time and doesn't care much about voice tone (unless he senses disrespect of course, but more in what is said and not how).

That's not a SLE thing, it must be due to other factors because Betas care a whole lot about voice tone when coming from others. That's actually one of the fastests ways to spot disrespect or disregard towards us, along facial expression and body language. And that comes before content because a lot of the times, it contradicts it. Rowdiness is accepted, if inside the right environment and limits, because it's a in thing, but even that can come as intrusion of our space.

It's with our own voice tones we struggle sometimes, it's easy to sound harsh or angry when we don't actually mean it. is tricky thing

Needless to say it applies to the extroverts more than introverts

IEIs indeed don't seem to mind it so much, but LSI-Se and EIE-Fe do. Might be a subtype thing

[Myst]

IEIs indeed don't seem to mind it so much, but LSI-Se and EIE-Fe do. Might be a subtype thing

Mind what much?

[Myst]

I'm not officially diagnosed either but I believe I have it, and have been told by a couple of aspie friends that they believe I have it too.

Do you relate to all the main symptoms? You may have something that doesn't qualify for real aspergers but I wouldn't be sure what it is.

I might imagine it wrong but I don't imagine you'd have the same kind of full-on social awkwardness. Maybe some but not like with actual diagnosed cases. Let alone the very narrow interests and so-called stereotyped movements.

E.g.:

"Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others (for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional reciprocity (social "games" give-and-take mechanic)"

"People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others, compared with those with other, more debilitating forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction. This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd"."

"The cognitive ability of children with AS often allows them to articulate social norms in a laboratory context, where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people's emotions; however, they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations. People with AS may analyze and distill their observations of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines, and apply these rules in awkward ways, such as forced eye contact, resulting in a demeanor that appears rigid or socially naive.

"Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking possible features of AS. Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data or star names, without necessarily having a genuine understanding of the broader topic."

"For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography. This behavior is usually apparent by age 5 or 6. Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed."

"Stereotyped and repetitive motor behaviors are a core part of the diagnosis of AS and other ASDs. They include hand movements such as flapping or twisting, and complex whole-body movements. These are typically repeated in longer bursts and look more voluntary or ritualistic than tics"

[LuckyOne]

Mind what much?

The subject we're discussing: voice tones.

[Pole]

Do you relate to all the main symptoms? You may have something that doesn't qualify for real aspergers but I wouldn't be sure what it is.

I might imagine it wrong but I don't imagine you'd have the same kind of full-on social awkwardness. Maybe some but not like with actual diagnosed cases. Let alone the very narrow interests and so-called stereotyped movements.

E.g.:

"Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others (for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional reciprocity (social "games" give-and-take mechanic)"

"People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others, compared with those with other, more debilitating forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction. This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd"."

"The cognitive ability of children with AS often allows them to articulate social norms in a laboratory context, where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people's emotions; however, they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations. People with AS may analyze and distill their observations of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines, and apply these rules in awkward ways, such as forced eye contact, resulting in a demeanor that appears rigid or socially naive.

"Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking possible features of AS. Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data or star names, without necessarily having a genuine understanding of the broader topic."

"For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography. This behavior is usually apparent by age 5 or 6. Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed."

"Stereotyped and repetitive motor behaviors are a core part of the diagnosis of AS and other ASDs. They include hand movements such as flapping or twisting, and complex whole-body movements. These are typically repeated in longer bursts and look more voluntary or ritualistic than tics"

Yes, I relate, and score high on online tests. I also suspect others in my family with it as well. It tends to run in families.

[Myst]

Yes, I relate, and score high on online tests. I also suspect others in my family with it as well. It tends to run in families.

All this stuff, that is, active but odd socializing, not being able to tune into the dynamics of communication at all, the ritualistic movements, specific focus on these kinds of interests?

Because if you are just simply not very good at socializing but display no explicit "weirdness" like these then that would be different.

[Pole]

All this stuff, that is, active but odd socializing, not being able to tune into the dynamics of communication at all, the ritualistic movements, specific focus on these kinds of interests?

Because if you are just simply not very good at socializing but display no explicit "weirdness" like these then that would be different.

I've been called weird my whole life. At some point I will have a doctor's opinion on the matter.

[niffer]

http://www.mapi.com/products/herbal-...orry-free.html

This has been helping me. I suffer from anxiety and a lot of "kinesthetic tension" from it a lot too.

[The Exception]

Do you relate to all the main symptoms? You may have something that doesn't qualify for real aspergers but I wouldn't be sure what it is.

I might imagine it wrong but I don't imagine you'd have the same kind of full-on social awkwardness. Maybe some but not like with actual diagnosed cases. Let alone the very narrow interests and so-called stereotyped movements.

E.g.:

"Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others (for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional reciprocity (social "games" give-and-take mechanic)"

"People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others, compared with those with other, more debilitating forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly. For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interaction. This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd"."

"The cognitive ability of children with AS often allows them to articulate social norms in a laboratory context, where they may be able to show a theoretical understanding of other people's emotions; however, they typically have difficulty acting on this knowledge in fluid, real-life situations. People with AS may analyze and distill their observations of social interaction into rigid behavioral guidelines, and apply these rules in awkward ways, such as forced eye contact, resulting in a demeanor that appears rigid or socially naive.

"Pursuit of specific and narrow areas of interest is one of the most striking possible features of AS. Individuals with AS may collect volumes of detailed information on a relatively narrow topic such as weather data or star names, without necessarily having a genuine understanding of the broader topic."

"For example, a child might memorize camera model numbers while caring little about photography. This behavior is usually apparent by age 5 or 6. Although these special interests may change from time to time, they typically become more unusual and narrowly focused, and often dominate social interaction so much that the entire family may become immersed."

"Stereotyped and repetitive motor behaviors are a core part of the diagnosis of AS and other ASDs. They include hand movements such as flapping or twisting, and complex whole-body movements. These are typically repeated in longer bursts and look more voluntary or ritualistic than tics"

I was definitely like this as a child except for the last part about stereotyped and repetitive motor behaviors.

I don't think I'm so much this way now as an adult. I'm still slightly awkward socially, I still have my special pet interests I like to discuss, but for the most part I can pass as normal, non-AS.