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    Question Difference between Ti/Se-Seeking and Ti/Ne-Seeking?

    I would like to know the difference between Ti/Ne-Seeking in an ESE and Ti/Se-seeking in an EIE.

    I know that in an environment, I really like clear-cut rules and no ambiguity. When I ask someone things, I want concise evidence. For example, when someone is typing me I'd like to know WHY EXACTLY they believe I am that type with thorough explanation with evidence. Solid answers are nice.

    But can someone elaborate more on this? Namely the dual-seeking information differences between the EIE and ESE.
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    clear-cut rules and no ambiguity
    This is something that will apply somewhat more to EIEs for sure.

    In Model A there is technically no such thing as "TiSe" seeking, there is just Ti seeking and Se seeking, but we can talk about the general behaviors involved. Generally EIEs need order and a sense of stability, and ESEs need help simplifying things, knowing what is important vs what can be ignored out of the sea of information - though both will have issues with the other one from time to time as well. You can see there is an element of Se and Si in the first one and Ne and Ni in the second one. I explain this in terms of Model A2: http://wholesocionics.herokuapp.com/...low-in-Model-A

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    This is something that will apply somewhat more to EIEs for sure.

    In Model A there is technically no such thing as "TiSe" seeking, there is just Ti seeking and Se seeking, but we can talk about the general behaviors involved. Generally EIEs need order and a sense of stability, and ESEs need help simplifying things, knowing what is important vs what can be ignored out of the sea of information - though both will have issues with the other one from time to time as well. You can see there is an element of Se and Si in the first one and Ne and Ni in the second one. I explain this in terms of Model A2: http://wholesocionics.herokuapp.com/...low-in-Model-A
    See, I was told that things a are blocked you aren't just "Ti-seeking" there is TiSe or TiNe seeking
    as for what you said. I need both stability and knowing what info is good. I don't like people being too open-ended. I need straight answers but in order to do that of course one must know what information is good or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy View Post
    See, I was told that things a are blocked you aren't just "Ti-seeking" there is TiSe or TiNe seeking
    Personally I think that way of putting it is not right but others may disagree. It's sort of a fine theoretical point. In any case I wouldn't know how to describe TiSe seeking directly.

    as for what you said. I need both stability and knowing what info is good. I don't like people being too open-ended. I need straight answers but in order to do that of course one must know what information is good or not.
    ok maybe I was exaggerating the difference a little (this is p5 vs r5 in Model A2). But generally it seems like while our Semidual's main function is something we do have problems with, we are somewhat more self-sufficient with it, or at least strive to be - as opposed to the Dual's main function where we are basically unaware of it and are comfortable giving up responsibility for it. That's why there is somewhat more competition in semidual relationships (although you could attribute that to the other shared strengths of course).

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    Well, your semidual's creative is literally your demonstrative and vice versa. That would probably cause a lot of issues.

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    Se of IEI demonstrates very weak will to the point of inability to move on an action to do something. They don't plan and go out and get stuff like EIE do. SLE recognizes the weak will and lets them be as in leaves them alone until they are ready to accept action or a plan to get something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Se of IEI demonstrates very weak will to the point of inability to move on an action to do something. They don't plan and go out and get stuff like EIE do. SLE recognizes the weak will and lets them be as in leaves them alone until they are ready to accept action or a plan to get something.
    I have always made a plan to go out and get stuff that I wanted.
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