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    Hi everybooody,
    So I'm very confused. I've been through the whole typing thing over and over again and I keep finding myself on this obsessive almost OCD-like search for my "real type". Nothing seems to fit.
    Okay so please let me know what you think!
    As a kid I hated loud noises and would cry around them. I grew to enjoy music and loud concerts around my teen years and eventually it became going to raves. I really love the moment at concerts where you lose yourself and feed off of everyone's energy. Drugs make people uninhibited and I was more than able to feed off of that and enjoy dancing in a carefree environment. This is why I joined a choir in highschool and now that I am in college I joined one again because you are able to reach a complete flow state in it.
    In addition, I have a very hard time having a definite personality. What I mean by that is that I am a VERY changeable person and often know what people want to hear and what they need, so I become that person. I often get tired of it and suddenly flip getting sad that I am "misunderstood" (lol angsty af) and nobody knows the real me, even though I don't even.
    I am an extremely changeable new day, new me type of person and I think that is the main reason why mbti or socionics isn't giving me a result I feel fits enough.
    I am really serious, like internally very angry. I take myself seriously and hate when people laugh at everything in the world. I am not carefree and I try to be as thoughtful as possible. Yet, I don't think this comes across to people and I find most people think I'm careless because I try to act this way. I do not feel as though my inner world and outer world collide by any means.
    I am inconsistent and often am switching my mind on things. I am interested in philosophy and psychology as well as astrology/numerology and other new age things. Not so much that I commit to any life/viewpoint but I just find it all very interesting.
    People seem to take care of me, always assuming that I am not fully here or I am not capable of taking care of myself. I find it extremely annoying because I don't ask for help. Loved ones always know I'm not dressing for the weather/eating enough/cleaning my room/etc and take it upon themselves to bug me about it lol. This is even down to the way I dress which is always frustrating. I like to always do things to express my own individuality but I find myself detached to most aesthetic choices and it is instead a momentary decision and not "a style". To put it simply, I don't realize it, but apparently I'm a mess lol.
    I don't take conflict/criticism well and am SO afraid of being put on the spot or having to do something in public. I'm committed to helping people and that seems to be the most consistent thing. I need a lot of alone time and "escape time" but love being around others so I can help them in any way!
    I was an Art Major in college but switched to Philosophy and found that people never liked my work because I didn't provide enough information. I stubbornly refused to make my work more obvious because I felt like that ruined the point of everything. I am accused, in the same way, as not being overt enough in everyday life and maintain a vagueness about my communication. I just don't like to make things obvious!! I'm not sure why. And I don't like when people make things obvious, I enjoy thinking about it and imagining the meaning(s) up on my own.
    Okay that is all for now. Lol
    Sorry also because I'm writing this while I am pretty tired. Let me know if you have any questions!

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    I'm also gonna try to post a video later!

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    Um SEE
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    A lot of what you mention is typical Fe ego (especially lead) stuff - having a changeable personality, liking a carefree social environment, needing to express your individuality, inconsistency (Ti Suggestive). The vagueness in your art and communication is a typical Ni ego thing. Not taking care of physical needs / not being physically all there - weak sensing. So most likely EIE, though IEI or maybe ESE might be worth considering too.

    "I don't take conflict/criticism well" This part seems a bit less EIEish, can you expand? Anyways, a video would help.

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    I associate inconsistency to Ep temperament as Ej is linear and ij is also consistent which matches Ej well
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I know I am always searching for something to put my all into. I am rather indecisive about it, and can't choose what that is. (career-wise, who to give my emotions to, etc.) but I am so motivated to find it, I just can't seem to choose what is worth it enough. (idk if that makes sense but that's how it is)
    Nothing seems to be of top priority, and it all seems to not matter in the grand scheme of things lol.
    I am rather scattered and anything I produce seems to lack a fullness to it or a real "quality" because I am almost always half-assing it. Almost saving my energy always for something else, something bigger.

    As for the "not taking criticism/conflict well" thing... I wouldn't say I'm terrible at receiving criticism but I DO emotionally shut down. When someone starts yelling I just get quiet and take it in. I am a very silenced person lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Um SEE
    I am very withdrawn from the moment lol. I also plan ahead and am always thinking of my future, I could never be Ni inferior.
    What makes you think SEE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclical View Post
    I know I am always searching for something to put my all into. I am rather indecisive about it, and can't choose what that is. (career-wise, who to give my emotions to, etc.) but I am so motivated to find it, I just can't seem to choose what is worth it enough. (idk if that makes sense but that's how it is)
    Nothing seems to be of top priority, and it all seems to not matter in the grand scheme of things lol.
    I am rather scattered and anything I produce seems to lack a fullness to it or a real "quality" because I am almost always half-assing it. Almost saving my energy always for something else, something bigger.

    As for the "not taking criticism/conflict well" thing... I wouldn't say I'm terrible at receiving criticism but I DO emotionally shut down. When someone starts yelling I just get quiet and take it in. I am a very silenced person lol
    How are you in giving criticism? Try a simplified version of the functions on Wikipedia Socionics
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    How are you in giving criticism? Try a simplified version of the functions on Wikipedia Socionics
    I usually don't. Hahaha
    I'm much more likely to try to understand and figure out someone's motives and ask why they did something
    I reject the idea that I have the right to correct someone if they have an established system/way of doing a task.
    Maybe their way is better and I can learn from them
    I have been told that I need to be more authoritative before. If I HAVE to give criticism I will usually give them very dry and constructive feedback and say why something is bad to do, then tell them what they are doing right as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclical View Post
    I am very withdrawn from the moment lol. I also plan ahead and am always thinking of my future, I could never be Ni inferior.
    What makes you think SEE?
    Because you said you're serious and changeable and misunderstood those are all related to Se plus Fi in the ego block but now you're giving me something else I have to reconsider the functions
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Extraverted logic (thinking) external dynamics of objects Te Socionics symbol Te.svg Te is efficiency of an action, technical processes, the accomplishment of work, the efficient and prudent use of resources, factual accuracy, and the acquisition of relevant and useful information. Te understands the difference between effective and ineffective behavior when performing a procedure or accomplishing a task, and aspires to increase the frequency of productive outcomes within a system.

    Extraverted ethics (feeling) internal dynamics of objects Fe Socionics symbol Fe.svg Fe is responsible for the perception of an emotional state in an individual and the bodily and linguistic expression of emotions. Fe is able to influence others' emotional condition and to communicate its own, "infecting" others. Fe is used especially in generating and recognizing excitement and enthusiasm.

    Extraverted sensing external statics of objects Se Socionics symbol Se.svg Se is responsible for the perception, control, defense, and acquisition of space, territory, and control. It observes outward appearances, estimates whether forces are in alignment or conflict, and uses strength of will and power-based methods to achieve purposes. Se understands territory and physical aggression. It is also the function of contact and apprehension of qualia.

    Extraverted intuition internal statics of objects Ne Socionics symbol Ne.svg Ne is responsible for understanding the essence (permanent but not obvious traits) of a thing, estimating the potential and latent capabilities for people and things, and visualizing the likely outcome of events. It is responsible for the sense of interest or boredom. Ne will speculate as to why an event occurs, but sees the specific event as static and unalterable.

    Introverted logic (thinking) external statics of fields Ti Socionics symbol Ti.svg Ti is responsible for understanding logic and structure, categorizations, ordering and priorities, logical analysis and distinctions, logical explanations. Ti interprets information according to how it fits into a validating system. Ti is particularly aware of logical consistency and how concepts relate to each other in meaning and structure, independently of particular purposes.

    Introverted ethics (feeling) internal statics of fields Fi Socionics symbol Fi.svg Fi is responsible for understanding the quality, nature, and proper maintenance of personal relations; makes moral judgments; and aspires to humanism and kindness. Fi has a strong understanding of the social hierarchy and how people feel about each other, their attitudes of like or dislike, enthrallment or disgust, repulsion or attraction, enmity or friendship.

    Introverted sensing external dynamics of fields Si Socionics symbol Si.svg Si is responsible for perception of physical sensations; questions of comfort, coziness, and pleasure; and a sense of harmony and acclimation with one's environment (especially physical). Si understand how well a person or thing's behavior agrees with its nature as well as the differences between comfortable behaviors and positions and uncomfortable ones.

    Introverted intuition internal dynamics of fields Ni Socionics symbol Ni.svg Ni is responsible for the estimation of the passage of time, the understanding of a course of processes in time, and forecasting. Ni understand how things may change and evolve over time and throughout history. Ni is acutely aware of events that are occurring outside of the immediate perception of the moment, and sees events as part of a continuous flow. Ni perceives the possible ramifications of future events and notices ties to the past. Ni observes behavioral patterns and can assess a person's character.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclical View Post
    I know I am always searching for something to put my all into. I am rather indecisive about it, and can't choose what that is. (career-wise, who to give my emotions to, etc.) but I am so motivated to find it, I just can't seem to choose what is worth it enough. (idk if that makes sense but that's how it is)
    Nothing seems to be of top priority, and it all seems to not matter in the grand scheme of things lol.
    I am rather scattered and anything I produce seems to lack a fullness to it or a real "quality" because I am almost always half-assing it. Almost saving my energy always for something else, something bigger.

    As for the "not taking criticism/conflict well" thing... I wouldn't say I'm terrible at receiving criticism but I DO emotionally shut down. When someone starts yelling I just get quiet and take it in. I am a very silenced person lol
    Can you give an example of something that you would be willing to put your all into (and why)? Or even better, give an example from your past if possible.

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    You're one of the Ixxp types, probably SEI.

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    https://goo.gl/photos/Jiym7yV2NLMUJ4xM9


    videos posted here^^

    sorry it's a bit out of order!!! the middle one is my first one

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    OK, from the videos (although I definitely didn't watch all of them) I would say SLE. I've found that SLE are not what people stereotyped them to be at all (although none of the types really are).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schildmaid View Post
    OK, from the videos (although I definitely didn't watch all of them) I would say SLE. I've found that SLE are not what people stereotyped them to be at all (although none of them really are).
    my boyfriend is I THINK an SLE or LSI so... that might be why -__-

    but that's so interesting honestly. i've never thought that before

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Can you give an example of something that you would be willing to put your all into (and why)? Or even better, give an example from your past if possible.
    An example would probably be a relationship or a career that I'm absolutely certain I want to follow through. This career would have to be something I would want to be an expert in (learn everything about it, use all of my time to obsess over, be nit-picky and care about the details). A relationship that I am absolutely settled on (which started to be my current one) has to last a long time for me to feel safe and then once I feel as though I trust them and know all about them I can commit and let go of worry fully. By that I mean I will always show my emotions to them, always be kind, look out for them, etc.

    I KNOW I'm not a thinker. I'm an extremely emotional person and make almost all of my decisions based off emotions. I think I may just be dualized and am starting to mirror my boyfriend.

    I would actually believe SEE but I'm not brave at all lol I'm afraid of everything.
    I'm not sure at all about this... I think EIE is most likely.
    I think I have VERY strong both Ni and Ne. Nonexistent Te and Ti. Although, I value independent thought and Ti much more.
    I would say that my Se can be strong, but not as strong as much Intuition.
    My feelings are extreme and I tend to repress them or use them entirely when I feel safe.

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    SLE from videos. Sorry might not be what you expected.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Extraverted logic (thinking) external dynamics of objects Te Socionics symbol Te.svg Te is efficiency of an action, technical processes, the accomplishment of work, the efficient and prudent use of resources, factual accuracy, and the acquisition of relevant and useful information. Te understands the difference between effective and ineffective behavior when performing a procedure or accomplishing a task, and aspires to increase the frequency of productive outcomes within a system.

    Extraverted ethics (feeling) internal dynamics of objects Fe Socionics symbol Fe.svg Fe is responsible for the perception of an emotional state in an individual and the bodily and linguistic expression of emotions. Fe is able to influence others' emotional condition and to communicate its own, "infecting" others. Fe is used especially in generating and recognizing excitement and enthusiasm.

    Extraverted sensing external statics of objects Se Socionics symbol Se.svg Se is responsible for the perception, control, defense, and acquisition of space, territory, and control. It observes outward appearances, estimates whether forces are in alignment or conflict, and uses strength of will and power-based methods to achieve purposes. Se understands territory and physical aggression. It is also the function of contact and apprehension of qualia.

    Extraverted intuition internal statics of objects Ne Socionics symbol Ne.svg Ne is responsible for understanding the essence (permanent but not obvious traits) of a thing, estimating the potential and latent capabilities for people and things, and visualizing the likely outcome of events. It is responsible for the sense of interest or boredom. Ne will speculate as to why an event occurs, but sees the specific event as static and unalterable.

    Introverted logic (thinking) external statics of fields Ti Socionics symbol Ti.svg Ti is responsible for understanding logic and structure, categorizations, ordering and priorities, logical analysis and distinctions, logical explanations. Ti interprets information according to how it fits into a validating system. Ti is particularly aware of logical consistency and how concepts relate to each other in meaning and structure, independently of particular purposes.

    Introverted ethics (feeling) internal statics of fields Fi Socionics symbol Fi.svg Fi is responsible for understanding the quality, nature, and proper maintenance of personal relations; makes moral judgments; and aspires to humanism and kindness. Fi has a strong understanding of the social hierarchy and how people feel about each other, their attitudes of like or dislike, enthrallment or disgust, repulsion or attraction, enmity or friendship.

    Introverted sensing external dynamics of fields Si Socionics symbol Si.svg Si is responsible for perception of physical sensations; questions of comfort, coziness, and pleasure; and a sense of harmony and acclimation with one's environment (especially physical). Si understand how well a person or thing's behavior agrees with its nature as well as the differences between comfortable behaviors and positions and uncomfortable ones.

    Introverted intuition internal dynamics of fields Ni Socionics symbol Ni.svg Ni is responsible for the estimation of the passage of time, the understanding of a course of processes in time, and forecasting. Ni understand how things may change and evolve over time and throughout history. Ni is acutely aware of events that are occurring outside of the immediate perception of the moment, and sees events as part of a continuous flow. Ni perceives the possible ramifications of future events and notices ties to the past. Ni observes behavioral patterns and can assess a person's character.

    I've read these so many times and cannot seem to pick one as being my dominant.When I take a cognitive functions test I get IEI. I know I have weak Fi because I cannot tell if someone is against me sometimes, I am never certain of how a friendship can go because I always feel like the foundation is on shaky ground.

    That being said, my parents are EIE and IEI if properly typed.

    I know I have well-developed Intuition and my main flaw is my sensing. My feelings are strong but they come and go (in terms of my using them excessively because I can be very logical when I want to be)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Persephone View Post
    SLE from videos. Sorry might not be what you expected.
    I'm not against SLE at all, it's just that I reject someone competing with me. I have a feeling I now mirror an SLE because of my relationship. I don't mean to disregard the feedback, I just would like to know why. The description does not fit me at all. lol
    I am actually quite conflict avoidant and afraid of others/situations that require me to "do".

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    ENFP
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Agree, IEE. I feel like I want to befriend you and I don't feel that with alot of people.
    I grew to enjoy music and loud concerts around my teen years and eventually it became going to raves. I really love the moment at concerts where you lose yourself and feed off of everyone's energy. Drugs make people uninhibited and I was more than able to feed off of that and enjoy dancing in a carefree environment. This is why I joined a choir in highschool and now that I am in college I joined one again because you are able to reach a complete flow state in it.
    Me too, I love singing in choir and being at music festivals, concerts. It makes me so alive and my energy level peaks. I've always wanted to go to a big rave but I live in a small country so there are barely any. I relate to what you say in the video about "extreme beauty makes me cry" or something like that. I can't sing a beautiful song without cracking/tearing up lol. In choir in a beautiful when the 'climax' comes I just get so overwhelmed and I don't understand how singers like Adele can sing her songs without tearing up haha.
    Not saying that all Si valuing ethical types are like this, but maybe. Appreciation of beauty like music is Si valuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    ENFP

    Where are you picking up Ne? I could DEFINITELY get behind IEE lol.
    It fits me well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
    Agree, IEE. I feel like I want to befriend you and I don't feel that with alot of people.

    Me too, I love singing in choir and being at music festivals, concerts. It makes me so alive and my energy level peaks. I've always wanted to go to a big rave but I live in a small country so there are barely any. I relate to what you say in the video about "extreme beauty makes me cry" or something like that. I can't sing a beautiful song without cracking/tearing up lol. In choir in a beautiful when the 'climax' comes I just get so overwhelmed and I don't understand how singers like Adele can sing her songs without tearing up haha.
    Not saying that all Si valuing ethical types are like this, but maybe. Appreciation of beauty like music is Si valuing.

    Be my friend!!! Ahh that's the nicest thing to hear, thank you!!
    That makes a ton of sense, I feel the same way but it definitely is selective and only hits me in extreme moments.
    Thank you so much, that made my day

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclical View Post
    Where are you picking up Ne?
    I watch and get impressions.
    You may look at my bloggers types examples in the signature. Maybe you'll notice intertype relation effects.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I think you have to be either EIE or IEE.

    -finds it very hard to do daily chores and take care of the physical environment (low Si)
    -emotional, can cry spontaneously (ethical)
    -feels like an outsider (likely intuitive)
    -likes to "broaden one thing and complicate it" (Ne/Ni?)
    -enjoys experiences of emotional unity (Fe), the feeling of "the whole world being in front of you" (some Ne maybe also)
    -flaky (low Ti/Se/Si)
    -tries to understand people, able to relate to everyone (NeFi)
    -gives advice for how to proceed in life (Ni), gives options for what to do (Ne) - some ethics here too

    Now the trickier stuff:
    For EIE: What you said about experiences of emotional unity seems more Fe valuing. You also mentioned needing someone sensible who can "knock some sense" into you. On the surface this sounds more like you're expecting a tough, motivational kind of help rather than someone to help quietly take care of you and your daily life as an IEE might. Is that right? At the same time, there was a lot of character evaluation near the end, about needing to see that people are kind etc. before actually interacting with them. There was also maybe too much Ne for an EIE, all the talk about learning things, self-improvement, getting "into" something and then dropping it quickly, etc.

    However, I don't think an IEE would teach their kids to be "escapists and fearful", in fact quite the opposite.

    (Also, I strongly disagree that "Appreciation of beauty like music is Si valuing." This could easily be Fe, and in fact you didn't mention anything about aesthetic beauty.)

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    IEE

    I still feel like you are Ep temperament
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I think you have to be either EIE or IEE.

    -finds it very hard to do daily chores and take care of the physical environment (low Si)
    -emotional, can cry spontaneously (ethical)
    -feels like an outsider (likely intuitive)
    -likes to "broaden one thing and complicate it" (Ne/Ni?)
    -enjoys experiences of emotional unity (Fe), the feeling of "the whole world being in front of you" (some Ne maybe also)
    -flaky (low Ti/Se/Si)
    -tries to understand people, able to relate to everyone (NeFi)
    -gives advice for how to proceed in life (Ni), gives options for what to do (Ne) - some ethics here too

    Now the trickier stuff:
    For EIE: What you said about experiences of emotional unity seems more Fe valuing. You also mentioned needing someone sensible who can "knock some sense" into you. On the surface this sounds more like you're expecting a tough, motivational kind of help rather than someone to help quietly take care of you and your daily life as an IEE might. Is that right? At the same time, there was a lot of character evaluation near the end, about needing to see that people are kind etc. before actually interacting with them. There was also maybe too much Ne for an EIE, all the talk about learning things, self-improvement, getting "into" something and then dropping it quickly, etc.

    However, I don't think an IEE would teach their kids to be "escapists and fearful", in fact quite the opposite.

    (Also, I strongly disagree that "Appreciation of beauty like music is Si valuing." This could easily be Fe, and in fact you didn't mention anything about aesthetic beauty.)
    Pretty much none of that is EIE or IEE stuff though. The you're seeing is HA, not lead... Also, look at the Reinin dichotomies for SLE. If you're just using individual functions, you're pretty much just stuck in an MBTI mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schildmaid View Post
    Pretty much none of that is EIE or IEE stuff though. The you're seeing is HA, not lead... Also, look at the Reinin dichotomies for SLE. If you're just using individual functions, you're pretty much just stuck in an MBTI mindset.
    Are you serious? You clearly have very little to no experience with socionics. Reinin dichotomies are a highly controversial typing method. No one disputes the validity of Model A, it's the ground of everything in socionics. The mindset on this forum is so skewed, it really boggles the mind sometimes... (And by the way I haven't seriously studied MBTI for about 10 years, nor do I want to.)

    You also haven't offered any empirical evidence, it's all theoretical categories. Learn to tell the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    -feels like an outsider (likely intuitive)
    not related to being intuitive or not.

    (Also, I strongly disagree that "Appreciation of beauty like music is Si valuing." This could easily be Fe, and in fact you didn't mention anything about aesthetic beauty.)
    Si is about beauty in all forms, (aesthetic=beauty, and music is also aesthetic) and also it says in her text that she was an art major, if you need to have a visual aesthetic example.


    Si is associated with the ability to internalize sensations and to experience them in full detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I think you have to be either EIE or IEE.

    -finds it very hard to do daily chores and take care of the physical environment (low Si)
    -emotional, can cry spontaneously (ethical)
    -feels like an outsider (likely intuitive)
    -likes to "broaden one thing and complicate it" (Ne/Ni?)
    -enjoys experiences of emotional unity (Fe), the feeling of "the whole world being in front of you" (some Ne maybe also)
    -flaky (low Ti/Se/Si)
    -tries to understand people, able to relate to everyone (NeFi)
    -gives advice for how to proceed in life (Ni), gives options for what to do (Ne) - some ethics here too

    Now the trickier stuff:
    For EIE: What you said about experiences of emotional unity seems more Fe valuing. You also mentioned needing someone sensible who can "knock some sense" into you. On the surface this sounds more like you're expecting a tough, motivational kind of help rather than someone to help quietly take care of you and your daily life as an IEE might. Is that right? At the same time, there was a lot of character evaluation near the end, about needing to see that people are kind etc. before actually interacting with them. There was also maybe too much Ne for an EIE, all the talk about learning things, self-improvement, getting "into" something and then dropping it quickly, etc.

    However, I don't think an IEE would teach their kids to be "escapists and fearful", in fact quite the opposite.

    (Also, I strongly disagree that "Appreciation of beauty like music is Si valuing." This could easily be Fe, and in fact you didn't mention anything about aesthetic beauty.)
    I've gone back and forth with IEE before so I would actually trust that the most.
    I see the Se HA in my dad and I find it extremely shallow. He is obsessed with gaining fame from social media, and I couldn't be farther away from it. I may seem Se oriented as a coping mechanism because my entire family has Se. I have always felt extremely different from them. I also find my parents, who are both Betas, shallow.
    Also Fe can overwhelm me a lot, as I don't like dealing with people's venting too much. I find that it affects me too much and I don't see the need to tell people about things happening to me on a daily basis, I don't think anyone actually cares about all of these small things.

    I drop things WAY too easily to be an EIE. They have a much more gradual growth, where as I am sporadic and changes occur in my life all at once when I feel ready to "evoke change" (Ne vs Ni).

    I think I do want someone that takes care of me, but can do both. Someone that wants to tell me all of their issues and trusts my ideas for growth. Someone that takes my needs into consideration without me having to ask for them. Someone that kinda just gets that you need to be thoughtful of others. Idk

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    This was all so helpful, though. Thanks everyone!

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    You seem EP, I'd go with Ne -> IEE. You're not EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    You seem EP, I'd go with Ne -> IEE. You're not EIE.
    Why? Just curious.
    Thank you for the feedback!

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