FDG

[FDG]

Just to clear up my type. Any counter-argument?

[FDG]

So penetrate my ass, fast!

[Joy]

*cough* Beta *cough*

[jewels]

I just don't think you're an ESTp. The ESTps that I've know in real life almost seem emotional, even though they're "logical". It's like, the smallest thing could set them off and they loose it. You seem much more logical and matter of fact and more under control, so that's why I think you're ENTJ.

[Expat]

It could be explained by those ESTps you know being sensory subtypes, and FDG, logical subtype.

[FDG]

Jewels: I am like that only when under stress. I highly doubt that any enneagram 7 could be ALWAYS like that, in any case.

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

[Expat]

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

I can change them back if you can't.

[Hugo]

Expat, I though you don't/won't tolerate obscene language. So how comes you haven't kicked anyone out of this thread?

[Expat]

I said offensive language, not obscene language.

These are obvious jokes between guys and in my judgement they don't justify them getting kicked. I don't see a problem with the actual words, it's the offense behind them.

And if you're going to keep on questioning what I do or not as a moderator, I suggest that you create a thread, "why Expat sucks as moderator" - I won't touch it.

[FDG]

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

I can change them back if you can't.

Naah, no problem!

*sorry - deleted*

[Hugo]

I said offensive language, not obscene language.

And what do you class/define as offensive language?

[Expat]

Language used with the clear intent of offending/harrassing/making someone else uncomfortable in an intentional way.

And I'm not going to discuss this further. We have to use our own judgement. People may disagree. If you wish, again, start a thread on that.

[Hugo]

For your information, the word "fuck" is widely accepted as offensive language regardless of intent. Intent is irrelevant. The word itself is unacceptable.

If someone uses the word "fuck" and they are not saying it to anyone in particular, it is still widely accepted as offensive language.

[oyburger]

So penetrate my ass, fast!

*swiftly punctures FDG's mangina with his mighty, turgid penis*

Its so nice to see love in action <3

[aestrivex]

For your information, the word "fuck" is widely accepted as offensive language regardless of intent. Intent is irrelevant. The word itself is unacceptable.

If someone uses the word "fuck" and they are not saying it to anyone in particular, it is still widely accepted as offensive language.

i didnt realize that this forum was run by anti-profanity nazis.

FDG is ESTp.

[XoX]

It was difficult for me to change thinking from ENTj to ESTp. Now it is even more difficult to change back What is this thread about?

[dreikin]

For your information, the word "fuck" is widely accepted as offensive language regardless of intent. Intent is irrelevant. The word itself is unacceptable.

If someone uses the word "fuck" and they are not saying it to anyone in particular, it is still widely accepted as offensive language.

CAUTION!
Potentially offensive language in the next link! (if you're ***************, that is)

Enjoy this humor at your own risk: http://www.lotsofjokes.com/cat_143.htm
(Ok, a few of the quotes at the end might be..)

[Joy]

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

[Zeia]

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

On a joke thread? lol.

[Joy]

that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

[oyburger]

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

On a joke thread? lol.

You came back?

[Zeia]

And somebody changed the poll options, fuck!!

that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

On a joke thread? lol.

You came back?

I'm a masochist, I like to prolong the pain.

[oyburger]

I knew you'd be back.

[FDG]

It was difficult for me to change thinking from ENTj to ESTp. Now it is even more difficult to change back What is this thread about?

They changed the options

[Joy]

that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

[Zeia]

It was difficult for me to change thinking from ENTj to ESTp. Now it is even more difficult to change back What is this thread about?

They changed the options

I'm pretty sure you can edit your options in your first post.


Joy stop triple posting, it just makes you look like your a schiz repeating everything to yourself.

[Joy]

It was difficult for me to change thinking from ENTj to ESTp. Now it is even more difficult to change back What is this thread about?

They changed the options

I'm pretty sure you can edit your options in your first post.


Joy stop triple posting, it just makes you look like your a schiz repeating everything to yourself.

no, you can't

and I felt is necessary to repeat myself on this particular matter, cause that's seriously the rudest thing I've ever seen on this forum

someone's ops need to be taken away

[Functianalyst]

How do people see you IRL? I have never understood the attempts to type someone by their writing styles, and from forum discussions. And any attempt to assert that you are anything, would be poor assumptions. Has anyone on the boards met you in person? Or have you provided intimate information to any other members?

[Expat]

Anyone that can't see this is stupid.

Would you say that being unjustifiably arrogant, patronizing, rude, and using such characteristics to bully others into silence is a characteristic of and -dual-seeking?

[FDG]

How do people see you IRL?

This vastly depends on which "people" you are talking about. Rarely two person have the same opinion about me. Usually the main difference is P vs strong-J-preference : I tend to grate J people's nerves and they tend to grate mines, on close contact.

Or have you provided intimate information to any other members?

I've had sex with a vast number of males here, but I won't discolse their names.

[oyburger]

I know who they are....

[XoX]

I've had sex with a vast number of males here, but I won't discolse their names.

Vast number???!?!?! Next time I make you wear these

[Functianalyst]

How do people see you IRL? I have never understood the attempts to type someone by their writing styles, and from forum discussions. And any attempt to assert that you are anything, would be poor assumptions. Has anyone on the boards met you in person? Or have you provided intimate information to any other members?

If someone projects good voice into their writing, typing that person through that writing is trivially easy - and valid. Anyone that can't see this is stupid.

Anyone can create a forum personna, and even believe it themselves. The fact that you would buy into anyone claiming their type, with such limited data is naieve.

[Expat]

You're really into over-simplifying people based on a few select behavior patterns, aren't you?

No. I asked a direct and valid question based on a pattern of your behavior that has become increasingly visible and evident in recent times.

On a personal note, it bothers me a bit since others here are indeed into over-simplifying, and tend to think that such behavior is somehow a typical ENTj trait, when I doubt it's typical of anyhing but being arrogant and a bully.

If someone projects good voice into their writing, typing that person through that writing is trivially easy - and valid. Anyone that can't see this is stupid.

And you say I am the one who's into over-simplifying things.

[Functianalyst]

How do people see you IRL?

This vastly depends on which "people" you are talking about. Rarely two person have the same opinion about me. Usually the main difference is P vs strong-J-preference : I tend to grate J people's nerves and they tend to grate mines, on close contact.

It was suggested that I take a quick look at intertype relations. I find ISFPs appealing, yet despise ISFJs and their need to be moralistic busy bodies, telling people how they should live their lives. Before anyone becomes heated, it's just how I see them.

Or have you provided intimate information to any other members?

I've had sex with a vast number of males here, but I won't discolse their names.[/quote]LOL, I meant in a non-sexual way. Have you provided anyone here with details of your life, your goals, accomplishments, etc?

[FDG]

LOL, I meant in a non-sexual way. Have you provided anyone here with details of your life, your goals, accomplishments, etc?

I don't really care about this stuff, if I were to tell people details of my life they wouldn't related to goals/accomplishments, as a rule. Besides, I guess I did, but they're of a different nature.

Moreover, I prefer sexual ways

[Functianalyst]

LOL, I meant in a non-sexual way. Have you provided anyone here with details of your life, your goals, accomplishments, etc?

I don't really care about this stuff, if I were to tell people details of my life they wouldn't related to goals/accomplishments, as a rule. Besides, I guess I did, but they're of a different nature. Moreover, I prefer sexual ways

Unsure what you mean by not caring about this stuff. Are you alluding to goals, accomplishments, etc. Also, was there a specific reason you made a distinction between ENTj and LIE? I thought they were the same.

[Sarah]

Would you say that being unjustifiably arrogant, patronizing, rude, and using such characteristics to bully others into silence is a characteristic of and -dual-seeking?

Would you say that being "unjustifiably arrogant, patronizing, and rude" is characteristic of _any_ function? I sure hope not. People of all types can display those traits. I don't see any point in bringing functions into it. As it's worded now, your post is open to a lot of misinterpretation---it sounds more like a passive-aggressive comment than a sincere question. :-/

[Expat]

Also, was there a specific reason you made a distinction between ENTj and LIE? I thought they were the same.

You haven't read the whole thread carefully -- anyway, it seems that some moderator, behaving very badly IMO, modified the contents of the original poll into options that mean exactly the same thing.

Would you say that being "unjustifiably arrogant, patronizing, and rude" is characteristic of _any_ function? I sure hope not. People of all types can display those traits. I don't see any point in bringing functions into it. As it's worded now, your post is open to a lot of misinterpretation---it sounds more like a passive-aggressive comment than a sincere question. :-/

This is a question that keeps popping up so often, that I think it should be discussed separately.

Still:

Individuals =/= types =/= functions

So, to go back to a point mentioned elsewhere, for instance, hugging is a manifestation of . Which is not to mean that only types hug, since any one of any type can use any function.

To behave like a bully in an attempt to intimidate another person into silence is a manifestation of (and if you think it isn't, I would be interested in the socionics case for that). That is not the same as saying that only types do it since everyone uses .

Your argument seems to be heading towards "everybody does it". Fine. That is correct. Because everybody uses , even INTjs and INFjs. But there is a difference in confidence, ease, and frequency of its use - which is precisely what everyone pointed out to Kristiina, when she was using and . I'm doing nothing differently now.

My question was driven by impatience (if you want to call it "being passive-aggressive", be my guest) and an attempt, probably futile, to make Ashton reflect about his behavior, and, yes, possible implications regarding his functional use.

If someone projects good voice into their writing, typing that person through that writing is trivially easy - and valid. Anyone that can't see this is stupid.

And you say I am the one who's into over-simplifying things.

Well gee, after a person posts pages upon pages of written material - some of which is very personally revealing - and after you interact with a person for a little while on here, you would think some trends about them become apparent. Trends you can use to deduce type. How is this oversimplification?

What is oversimplification is your calling it "trivially easy".

Here, on this forum, we have had several long discussions, over long periods of time, over people's types, even of people who have written a lot and who have interacted with others intensively. Very often the question is undecided or the person's type turns out to be another one - as in FDG's case now, or some others'.

Of course, if you assume that it is always your typing that is the right one, then, ok, I guess it's indeed "trivially easy".

I don't know if it's typical or not. If you think it's severely atypical and not something ENTjs do, then explain why you think Ann Coulter is ENTj.

First, to state the obvious, my typing of Ann Coulter and anyone else may be wrong. I never claimed to be infallible in typing.

If your argument is that she and you behave precisely in the same manner, I cannot really counter-argue because I don't feel I have enough information on that.

And to answer your question directly, I haven't seen Ann Coulter on tv very often simply because I haven't watched almost any tv in the last 2 years and, moreover, she does not appear so often in non-American tv. I have based my typing of her on reading some of her writings and interviews, and on watching a couple of very long interviews (over 1 hour) when she was discussing her books. My impression was that she used mainly and and was not dominant. As simple as that.

[Functianalyst]

Also, was there a specific reason you made a distinction between ENTj and LIE? I thought they were the same.

You haven't read the whole thread carefully -- anyway, it seems that some moderator, behaving very badly IMO, modified the contents of the original poll into options that mean exactly the same thing.

Thanks Expat.