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  • ILE (ENTp)

    11 15.28%
  • SEI (ISFp)

    0 0%
  • ESE (ESFj)

    0 0%
  • LII (INTj)

    3 4.17%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    0 0%
  • IEI (INFp)

    0 0%
  • EIE (ENFj)

    1 1.39%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    17 23.61%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    1 1.39%
  • ILI (INTp)

    8 11.11%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    32 44.44%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    0 0%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    0 0%
  • SLI (ISTp)

    0 0%
  • LSE (ESTj)

    0 0%
  • EII (INFj)

    0 0%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    You see, you have the typical beta us v them perspective. You think I am against him but I respect the work he has done. I simply point out that it doesn't make sense for him to be a sensing type when the things he does are completely the opposite of what DarkAngelFireWolf69 writes about them. You don't consider the points I make here at all, you ignore them actually. For you Musk is LSI because DarkAngelFireWolf69 says so and everyone else is wrong
    Bruh... do you realize this: "Otherwise you are just forcing DarkAngelFireWolf69's opinion as truth" is exactly what you just did with the Big 5/Socionics correlation? You continue to do this with everything else DarkAngelFireWolf69 has written...

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    From DarkAngelFireWolf69's Book Page 34/35/36:

    In society, sensory types focus on the past, on accumulated experience. Poorly foreseeing the future, sensory types live for today or to the nearest guaranteed prospect. By their own initiative, they will not seriously engage in anything fundamentally new that is not yet tested. Intuitives are oriented towards the future of society. Those who offer - and are the first to pick up all major innovations - are mostly intuitve types. They are not afraird to take risks, introducing something no one believes in at first glance. They shape the future of society, and not just small improvements, but large-scale changes that promise a radical revolution. Sensory types have poor imagination. Their brains are too attached to the details of reality to allow themselves a bold breakthrough in an unknown field.

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    Critics in the early stages of Tesla always said that an affordable electric car would not be possible. Even at times when his company was on the verge of bankruptcy he poured his own money into the business to have it continue running. Bloomerg (2014) reported that Musk used all his money he made from selling Paypal into Tesla in order to continue funding for designs and advancements, luckily he was able to take the company from the ground up and make it what it is today. He has continuously taken huge business risks, and continues to do so even with the current deals in negotiation to purchase SolarCity.

    Elon Musk is very high in trait openness, very imaginative, intelligent, clearly has a preference for thinking abstractly. Almost everything about him seems unconventional and unique. As well as his passion for engineering, he is also strongly involved in the aesthetics design of his developments. He clearly has a great interest in ideas, aesthetics and adventure, which are strongly associated with the openness trait. You have to be nuts to read this and still consider him a sensing types, but I guess I have have to deal with intellectual midgets who insult me as a moron or idiot here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    From DarkAngelFireWolf69's Book Page 34/35/36:

    In society, sensory types focus on the past, on accumulated experience. Poorly foreseeing the future, sensory types live for today or to the nearest guaranteed prospect. By their own initiative, they will not seriously engage in anything fundamentally new that is not yet tested. Intuitives are oriented towards the future of society. Those who offer - and are the first to pick up all major innovations - are mostly intuitve types. They are not afraird to take risks, introducing something no one believes in at first glance. They shape the future of society, and not just small improvements, but large-scale changes that promise a radical revolution. Sensory types have poor imagination. Their brains are too attached to the details of reality to allow themselves a bold breakthrough in an unknown field.

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    Critics in the early stages of Tesla always said that an affordable electric car would not be possible. Even at times when his company was on the verge of bankruptcy he poured his own money into the business to have it continue running. Bloomerg (2014) reported that Musk used all his money he made from selling Paypal into Tesla in order to continue funding for designs and advancements, luckily he was able to take the company from the ground up and make it what it is today. He has continuously taken huge business risks, and continues to do so even with the current deals in negotiation to purchase SolarCity.

    Elon Musk is very high in trait openness, very imaginative, intelligent, clearly has a preference for thinking abstractly. Almost everything about him seems unconventional and unique. As well as his passion for engineering, he is also strongly involved in the aesthetics design of his developments. He clearly has a great interest in ideas, aesthetics and adventure, which are strongly associated with the openness trait. You have to be nuts to read this and still consider him a sensing types, but I guess I have have to deal with intellectual midgets who insult me as a moron or idiot here.
    Not sure if you know this, but Teslas aren't that innovative. The idea for EVs has been around for years and years, Musk was just the one to bring it to the masses (almost). Yes, their technology is innovative but I highly doubt Musk even came up with that by himself.

    Actually, the whole approach behind Tesla is pretty Ti-Si. He's combined a couple of different ideas to bring it to the masses for comfort and style.

    Edit: He's also named his whole line of Teslas S3XY. If that ain't Beta ST humor...
    Last edited by hellohellohello; 08-01-2022 at 08:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I don't really see a point in this discussion anymore. DarkAngelFireWolf69 says

    The basic scale of The Big 5 can relate to socionics, as there are a lot of similiarities. The first factor is extroversion, which correlates to socionics extroversion. It is the first noticeable, “on the surface” trait. The second factor is openness, which is when a person is open to new things, which correlates to socionics intuition. The third factor is conscientiousness, which relates to socionics rationality. The fourth factor is agreeableness, which means that you will agree with society’s standards, which correlates with socionics ethics, especially ethics of relationships, which is introverted feeling.

    https://wikisocion.github.io/content/DarkAngelFireWolf69_interview.html?highlight=DarkAngelFireWolf69%20intervi ew

    Insisting that Musk has a type with low openess is beyond my comprehension
    I think we should skip all this and go to the part where your future self selects a new nick so as not be associated with this that you're posting and what you're going to. I think ‘BornAgain’ is a good option, a homage to ‘Alive’ There is one celebrity that I can think of that moved to Japan at an early age, became a Buddhist and an acupuncturist, a musician and an animal rights activist. Must score pretty passable on openness. And who could it be? Regardless of Musk, I don't view LSIs as low on openness when it comes to learning, entertaining concepts and knowledge for the sake of it (Ti valuing). Maybe once they choose a path they are less willing to stray from it, but shy about the world and ideas they're not.

    Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.

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    I stand by the things I write here. I'm pretty positive that new people who come here will recognize why the intuitive typing for Musk makes sense, while other people will cling to their perception like the normalizing subtypes they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I stand by the things I write here. I'm pretty positive that new people who come here will recognize why the intuitive typing for Musk makes sense, while other people will cling to their perception like the normalizing subtypes they are.
    For the last MF time, I am NOT new to Socionics. This ACCOUNT is new. I've been into Socionics since 2016-2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    I'm pretty positive that new people who come here will recognize why the intuitive typing for Musk makes sense.
    And since it comes from you and your 'true understanding' of Socionics, let's let them see you grapple to put a maybe contrary to theory description of type and duality.
    Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.

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    Goodness, I never imagined just how damaging DarkAngelFireWolf69's subtypes have turned out to be for people's understanding of the types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by World Socionics View Post
    Goodness, I never imagined just how damaging DarkAngelFireWolf69's subtypes have turned out to be for people's understanding of the types.
    Ah, hello Jack

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    Hello there!
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    So everyone agrees that Elon is LSI at this point, correct? Good. We are identical, I'm pretty sure he's of Harmonizing subtype too.

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    LMAO ILE

    "Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around."

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    It slowly dawned on me that he might be EIE-Ni. I also think he might be the antichrist.

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    LSI

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    LIE or ILE.
    Just my opinion, but him being typed LSI sounds... weird. Elon being supervisee by ILE It's not realistic, nor him being Ne PolR.

    Elon would seek novelty, LSI seeks no risk. The entire Elon's career is builded on risk. He sold companies that already went very well to gain money for new projects.

    About his ideas being "not new", I don't think Ne's seeking possibilities has to be read that way. He founded SpaceX, entering the space business, a thing which was nearly impossible to do for a private company without the great help of States. He managed to lower the price of rockets tools and pieces a lot (and so, the price of rockets production). IMO he doesn't like conventional methods to do things, and basically creates new rules and structures in companies and markets. Why not creative Ti or just Te-Ni? LIE and ILE seems the best options avaible.

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