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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    positive: imparter of knowledge, playful, enigmatic, honest and blunt, hardworking, funny, tolerant

    negative: fickle/inconsistent, controlling, stifling moods, self centered

    "What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was..." my voice to be listened to, understood, considered valid
    "As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again:" frustration, being unheard
    Interesting. Exact characterization of me except the funny part. I make weird faces when I listen to music - that's it, my humor is horrible. Self-centered oh yesss, the majority of my sentences start with "I". I also have the bad habit of interrupting people as they speak, does that fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    None of the dudes in this morphing experiment was ST, but interestingly the end result does look pretty similar to my LSE dad.
    You know what Freud would say about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    You know what Freud would say about that
    I know. Haha.

    None of the dudes individually looks that close to my dad (well, maybe one ) , but the morphing result pretty much does.

    At least I am not into LSEs, but unfortunately into valuing types...
    The one guy who fit my Imago the best so far was an IEE-Fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    V.I this dude.
    Haha.

    Probably LSI. He reminds me of some probably-LSIs I know.

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    I've got a slight variation of that morph-guy.
    Thoughts?



    P.S: I would recommend you to try out the morphing on that site...
    Morph together faces of people you've been attracted to.
    The result might be surprising... and maybe reveal your Imago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I like this exercise. Here we go:

    + protective, sacrificing, dominant, well-groomed, creative, honest, proactive, hard-working, image-conscious, nurturing, kind, funny, hygienic, responsible, lenient, non-violent, reliable, moral

    - paint-by-numbers, conservative, ignorant, busy, aristocratic, critical, aloof, fearful, nit-picking, uninformed, tabooing, defensive, derogatory, compliant, egocentric, complaining, strict


    My imago; Enneagram 1 sp/so, Tritype 136. The notorious Delta ST-ness of my parents (mom especially) is pretty obvious.

    What strikes me is that my imago is as far away from SEE-Se So/Sx - my ideal dual - as possible On the other hand, I am a Ne subtype in DCNH which creates a hidden infantile agenda so that works out pretty well.
    I can see you being happy with a 6w7/2w3 (2-6-9) xSFP , so I'd say with a certain tritype you'd very well

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    I've got a slight variation of that morph-guy.
    Thoughts?



    P.S: I would recommend you to try out the morphing on that site...
    Morph together faces of people you've been attracted to.
    The result might be surprising... and maybe reveal your Imago.
    Hm... looks much more ethical now. Uh I can't pinpoint it. EIE is my guess, them eyes seem NF to me.

    Yes this sounds interesting, I'll figure mine out.

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    HELP ME I created a monster.



    That's a... cunning hairstyle... lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    HELP ME I created a monster.



    That's a... cunning hairstyle... lmao
    Haha! Did you include women in that pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    Haha! Did you include women in that pic?
    Yes of course Creating an all-female or all-male imago is boring. #Androgenization strikes again.

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    In my pic I only included heterosexual guys, because that's what I would end up with...

    In some other pics I included gay guys I've found attractive, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    V.I this dude.
    Haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post
    I've got a slight variation of that morph-guy.
    Thoughts?



    P.S: I would recommend you to try out the morphing on that site...
    Morph together faces of people you've been attracted to.
    The result might be surprising... and maybe reveal your Imago.




    Closest I could find to your guy with a quick search.

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    My sister is like the guys I'm attracted to. First of all, she's a Taurus. Pretty much all the guys I've ever been in love with were Tauruses except one Pisces. She's the person who seems like they like you, and she knows what she is doing. You do things for her and make sacrifices in hopes she will give something back, but then she ditches constantly for someone better. And you realize she never does anything for you. A user.

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    not imago, just fun
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    @Cassandra Finding my Imago using my caregivers didn't work for me since I don't quite know who to use as my caregivers - too many. When I tried it using my parents (who did raise me off and on) few of the traits were things I've traditionally been attracted to. Instead I did the Imago exercise that you linked where you write down the traits of all the people you've been attracted to. This is what I came up with.

    Creative
    Strong physical presence (physically confident and demanding)
    Protective
    Honest/blunt
    Loving
    Physically affectionate
    Strong (physically and emotionally)
    Animal lover
    Playful
    Hardworking (as in takes pride in their work, even if only sweeping)
    Spontaneous
    Joyful
    Kind
    Adventurous
    Brave

    According to the exercise my Imago is a type 2, although there are some 7/8 traits as well.

    I didn't include negative traits only because with the exercise it said to only include traits that appeared at least twice. It seems that all of the negatives of the people I used were specific to that person. I couldn't find a theme (not that there isn't one).

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    Positive influence: Kind, moral, big thinking, live and let live, accepting, warm

    Negative influence: Scattered, disorganized, chaotic, goalless, aimless, image conscious, distant, uninvolved, messy, manipulative, too emotional, arbitrary

    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was…: Love, acceptance, stability, safety

    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again: Fear, sadness, anxiety

    I had really bad influences as a child...

    Quote Originally Posted by April View Post
    Positive: intelligent, funny, charming, relaxed, understanding, cool, mysterious
    Negative: unstable, angry, drug-addicted, manipulative, chaotic, neglectful, mean

    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was: stability and kindness -- feeling like I was safe and loved.
    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again: fear, sadness, and emotional isolation.
    Hey, yours is similar to mine... although they were not drug-addicted or anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epheme View Post
    @Cassandra Finding my Imago using my caregivers didn't work for me since I don't quite know who to use as my caregivers - too many. When I tried it using my parents (who did raise me off and on) few of the traits were things I've traditionally been attracted to. Instead I did the Imago exercise that you linked where you write down the traits of all the people you've been attracted to. This is what I came up with.

    Creative
    Strong physical presence (physically confident and demanding)
    Protective
    Honest/blunt
    Loving
    Physically affectionate
    Strong (physically and emotionally)
    Animal lover
    Playful
    Hardworking (as in takes pride in their work, even if only sweeping)
    Spontaneous
    Joyful
    Kind
    Adventurous
    Brave

    According to the exercise my Imago is a type 2, although there are some 7/8 traits as well.

    I didn't include negative traits only because with the exercise it said to only include traits that appeared at least twice. It seems that all of the negatives of the people I used were specific to that person. I couldn't find a theme (not that there isn't one).
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are married, right?
    How does your husband measure up to your Imago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Positive influence: Kind, moral, big thinking, live and let live, accepting, warm

    Negative influence: Scattered, disorganized, chaotic, goalless, aimless, image conscious, distant, uninvolved, messy, manipulative, too emotional, arbitrary
    This reminds me of ISFx Type 9 (936), particularly SEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    Positive: dutiful, hard-working, curious, driven, reliable, nurturing, self-less, generous, gregarious, involved, clean, organized, unrestrictive, non-judgmental

    Negative: anxious, childish, dramatic, crude, paranoid, superstitious, temperamental, elitist, snobby, image-conscious, volatile, poky, spendthrift, indecisive
    The bolded stuff reminds me of SEI, Sp 6.
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    Positive - Responsible, attentive, high expectations
    Negative - Restrictive, unwilling to listen, counterproductive

    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was a sense of competence.
    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again: impotence, fear, envy, ressentiment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Overall the traits are somewhat contradictory, but the bolded ones seem to point at ExFx 3w4, if I had to put a type label on it.
    The non-bolded traits resemble 6w5 and 9w1.
    Actually, why not ExTx instead of ExFx? I had both Te and Fe traits listed for my Imago. For the bolded ones, 2:2 Te:Fe and 1 Ej. For the nonbolded ones: 1 for Te, the rest not specific either to Te or Fe.

    Thoughts?


    (My Imago post was the following in spoilers)

    Negative: Distant. Paranoid. Lazy. Too busy/neglectful.
    Positive: Warm. Fun/attentive. Optimistic. Energetic. Reliable. Knowledgeable with facts. Insightful.

    What I wanted most as a child and didn’t get was - Attention. Control.
    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again - Coping alone.

    The only one thing I'd edit in that: "fun" as more like "enthusiastic", but yeah, somewhat fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Actually, why not ExTx instead of ExFx? I had both Te and Fe traits listed for my Imago. For the bolded ones, 2:2 Te:Fe and 1 Ej. For the nonbolded ones: 1 for Te, the rest not specific either to Te or Fe.

    Thoughts?


    (My Imago post was the following in spoilers)

    Negative: Distant. Paranoid. Lazy. Too busy/neglectful.
    Positive: Warm. Fun/attentive. Optimistic. Energetic. Reliable. Knowledgeable with facts. Insightful.

    What I wanted most as a child and didn’t get was - Attention. Control.
    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again - Coping alone.

    The only one thing I'd edit in that: "fun" as more like "enthusiastic", but yeah, somewhat fun.
    "Warm" and "Fun/attentive" is rather ExFx than ExTx.
    "Distant" and "Too busy" could be Type 3 and perhaps some T inclination (though not necessarily).
    Energetic could go with either one. That's why I went with ExFx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    "Warm" and "Fun/attentive" is rather ExFx than ExTx.
    "Distant" and "Too busy" could be Type 3 and perhaps some T inclination (though not necessarily).
    Energetic could go with either one. That's why I went with ExFx.
    I need to clarify more then. Attentive but only partially. At times only. Since there was more "distant" and "too busy" stuff.

    Now do you see it as ExFx still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    I need to clarify more then. Attentive but only partially. At times only. Since there was more "distant" and "too busy" stuff.

    Now do you see it as ExFx still?
    Have your experiences lead you to believe your Imago could be ExTx?
    That's totally valid, if that is the case.
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    Positive: accepting, supportive, successful, loving, cool-headed, open, reliable, laid-back, efficient, intelligent, insightful, moral
    Negative: busy, dismissive, self-absorbed, egoistical, harsh, judgmental, self-righteous, distant

    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was: Support in everyday matters, a filled lunchbox (I am serious, that always really bothered me ! 1st world problems, I know), more guests/people at home
    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again: anger, frustration

    And since you gave me that morph thingy to play with:



    Couldn’t decide which one I liked better, but I'd certainly take both

    (I was tempted to include Gollum...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sommerregen View Post
    Positive: accepting, supportive, successful, loving, cool-headed, open, reliable, laid-back, efficient, intelligent, insightful, moral
    Negative: busy, dismissive, self-absorbed, egoistical, harsh, judgmental, self-righteous, distant

    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was: Support in everyday matters, a filled lunchbox (I am serious, that always really bothered me ! 1st world problems, I know), more guests/people at home
    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again: anger, frustration

    And since you gave me that morph thingy to play with:



    Couldn’t decide which one I liked better, but I'd certainly take both

    (I was tempted to include Gollum...)
    This actually reminds me of SLI with the 936 tritype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Have your experiences lead you to believe your Imago could be ExTx?
    That's totally valid, if that is the case.
    Yes.

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    Positive

    Organized, outgoing, family centered, a lot of delicious food all the time, involved in practical trades, free to be emotionally expressive, providers, caring, always there when you need them

    Negative

    Worry warts, messy, too much socialization

    Wanted most as a child was for my family to be better off financially

    Negative feelings that I had were someone possibly getting seriously sick from my dads excessive smoking
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Based on this alone, I'd feel like you'd do well with an SLI or SEI who was 9w1.
    Please do me
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I meant to do this a while ago, but just got around to it now.

    Positive Traits: Unconditional love, reliable, predictable, steady, intelligent, outgoing, friendly, rational, supportive, reasonable, admiring

    Negative Traits: Angry, mocking, violent, controlling, critical, absent, stubborn, unimaginative


    What I wanted most as a child and didn’t get was unconditional love. Instead, I got conditional permission to live in my parent’s house in exchange for absolute obedience and high performance in school.
    My parents were incredibly cheap. I got new clothes for school once a year from a discount store, and one year I told my mother that the shoes she bought me hurt my feet. She said I’d get used to them. After walking to and from school, my feet were bleeding, and to my great surprise, she decided to get me a new pair. Strangely enough, I never felt poor, I just felt that I was asking for too much. My mother told us we were well-off because we had a doormat at the front door with the initial of our last name on it.

    As a child, I had these negative feelings over and over again, the feeling that my parents didn’t love me. I tried to be good and obedient, but they never really loved me. I sometimes thought that if I killed myself, they might regret the way they treated me, but then I’d think, No, they wouldn’t. My father was never home to protect us against a violent mother, and our mother valued my sisters and me about as much as she valued her furniture. Maybe less.
    Aside from that, my life was pretty good. I was happy with my accomplishments, and we got enough to eat.

    And now for the fun part, where we examine my composite Imago's face:

    Babe - composite.jpeg

    If any of you look like this, we need to talk.

    Seriously, the composite face came out better than any of the individual faces, and I have to say, if I saw this woman in person, I might not approach her until I knew something about her, and for me, that's a first.
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    Positive: Caring, conscientious, loyal, loving

    Negative: Controlling, out of touch with reality, sheltering, naive

    My dad was absent most of the time and my existing family is pretty small so my mother and brother where the only people I was around 90% of the time. My mom was pretty good when it came to caring about me and providing me with the essentials. My main problem with her was I had wished she tried to expose me more to realities of the world and teach me some stuff that was actually practical rather then shelter me with her Jehova's Witness BS and constant preaching about morals. I never got to do anything with anyone my age and instead was stuck going to JW meetings with old and sickly people. Now I'm stuck trying to rid myself of excess inhibition and self-restraint just so I can actually feel comfortable being at places other then home and not be alienated from people my same age.

    Morph results, VI is welcomed (did it twice):

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    I have come across a super easy exercise that does not even require you to think about your past in order to unearth the Imago.

    "What do you find outrageously sexy in the opposite sex? Talk about the sexiest, most magnetic person you've ever met?"
    Someone asked this on Facebook. My answer was:

    "Charming, confident, sociable, tongue-in-cheek, good-looking, passionate, kind, ambitious, sexual, talkative, curious, adventurous, active ... "

    As I was writing this, I realized I was describing the positive traits of my Imago.
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    Ummm...


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      there's both positive and negative in each possible value aspects: logic error... infinite loop... reboot... ESI reads print out... hospital visit...
    In brief one could call me abstract and inventive: a professional psychologist told me that child should you their senses. I was thinking stuff like: Is this real, infinite loops reality simulation (not in those words but..) what constitutes this concept as this. Already I was doing deconstructions of borders between good and evil. Had some control of my money because I didn't really want stuff. Not because I needed it for something forthcoming. Then found out about books and spend some money on those things. I had material on my hands as I had access on construction waste. Did something cool with it whenever I wanted. I was very caring about my siblings. I said weird stuff and I was bit funny with it.
    When heard about religion I was cool with it as a model for explanation until. Made my own systems and created parody hymns. It just seemed so natural. Then heard that it didn't apply to all and there were chosen ones. It really pissed me off and I didn't accept it as an explanation model anymore.

    Places of stress: bad sensory experiences really threw me off the handle. Lack of willpower to do routine stuff. I didn't find usual kids play interesting. People still tell stories and laugh about my fantasy filled rages. Didn't bond without other's assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    not imago, just fun
    Can we bring this one back

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    My biggest Imago crush from years ago basically looked like (a slightly older version of) this guy.

     
    Minus the earrings.





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    Positive: patient, artisanal skills, calm, caring, accepting, encouraging, protecting, honorable, hardworking, playful, practical, undemanding
    Negative: angry, disloyal, unpredictable, opportunistic, humiliating, cold, prejudiced, moody, weak-willed, prideful, reckless
    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was a save place where I can express my feelings without judgment
    As a child I had these negative feelings over and over again: embarrassment, sadness, resentment, fear

    If this list is my imago I hope that I'll never meet him/her

    nice exercise @Cassandra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was a save place where I can express my feelings without judgment
    Doesn't sound like Beta parents actually going by stereotypes O_o

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    Thanks @Cassandra this was a great idea

    Positive: Encouraging, caring, funny, creative, expressive, hardworking
    Negative: Unfair, intolerant, emotionally unpredictable, unstable, self-centered, cold, financially unstable, thoughtless
    What I wanted most as a child and didn't get was: To be truly listened to, to feel like I was valued for who I am, to be told the truth and for information not to be secretive
    As a child I had these negative feelings over and over again: Fear, shame, guilt, neglect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Doesn't sound like Beta parents actually going by stereotypes O_o
    I'm not talking about positive emotions
    But crying, anger and defiance. I was very sensitive as a child and cried often. My mother had patience with me but not my father. Crying and any expressions of disobedience were forbidden. I can't really blame him (He grew up with an abusive father)
    Not expressing any feelings, especially not that I'm hurt, was the optimal solution for peace.
    I was convinced when I'm so silent and hidden that I'm practically invisible everything will be ok

    It's better these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    I'm not talking about positive emotions
    But crying, anger and defiance. I was very sensitive as a child and cried often. My mother had patience with me but not my father. Crying and any expressions of disobedience were forbidden. I can't really blame him (He grew up with an abusive father)
    Not expressing any feelings, especially not that I'm hurt, was the optimal solution for peace.
    I was convinced when I'm so silent and hidden that I'm practically invisible everything will be ok

    It's better these days
    Beta deals better with negative emotional expressions than any other quadra. But of course this is a generalization very much.

    Glad it's better now

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