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    Default Temperaments: Ej vs. Ij

    Ej brings some organization or order to their outside world
    Ij brings some organization or order to their inside world
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    MBTI-style BS
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    MBTI-style BS
    I don't think so
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Aren't Ti-base types outwardly organized though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonare View Post
    Aren't Ti-base types outwardly organized though?
    Idk

    Are you??
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Te - knowledge of facts about external world
    Ti - links between these facts

    order is more Ti thing
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Te - knowledge of facts about external world
    Ti - links between these facts

    order is more Ti thing
    How about organization?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Idk

    Are you??
    Ti-valuing?

    ILI is one thing but Alpha/Beta is just way off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resonare View Post
    Ti-valuing?

    ILI is one thing but Alpha/Beta is just way off
    No are you or do you internally organize lol
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I think it is legit in theory, but what can you really accomplish with that kind of thinking?

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    I think rational types are less prone to being impulsive than irrational types. I think both and are concerned with being ordered and systematic in their own ways. and -leading types are far more flexible than and -leading types, and perhaps give the impression of people who remain above water in turbulent conditions. Perhaps and is more about being adaptable and pragmatic in the face of ever-changing conditions and being far more ready to take on board new information: being ordered and systematic (in the conventional sense) is not their primary way of being.

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    A well developed person will do both. Take good care of the inner and outer worlds as the illusion between them fades with self-mastery.

    Your ego will tell you things like "I can't be a sweet and loving/good person because I'm outgoing" or the reverse "I can't take action and kick this person's ass because I'm a shy introverted faget" (and many times the ego feels so serious and heavy and true and can't be beat- but it can. It's just a way of self-limitation)

    You need to fight your inner demons and surprise yourself.

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