Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
thank you to everyone who has contributed so far!

i did a bit of research last night on fictional INFjs (all of the relevant search results were going by MBTI, though it's still viable. i just ignore what they have to say about functions) and it seems as if ra's al ghul is the quintessential EII villain. his character motivations echo what i originally posted—twisted sense of right and wrong (unsure which function to attribute this to), idealists, heroes in their own mind, noble goals yet bizarre methods... their motivations can typically be simplified down to "doing [insert evil deed] for the so-called good of humanity". it corresponds to the well-intentioned extremist trope.

i also think unhealthy EIIs, in fiction or otherwise, could potentially manifest self-righteous tendencies.
probably - mostly with enneagram 1 energy also


most eiis tend to internalize their problems and retreat from the world or just sort of go into a stupor or passivity about it

im not really even sure that ras is eii - but you can look at Robespierre as being an example of a overly logical lii - so it would probably be in that same trend; rhetorical idealists

for an EII - i think it would have to be a very very personal attachment if anything - i'm not sure they would be as likely to be motivated globally but maybe


i'm not sure how useful discussions like this are for anything other than kind of 'oh isn't this an interesting thought' etc - but that's ok