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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    villain and EII match badly
    this type is lawfull and heedful to people. it's hard to describe naturally a villain with such traits
    Mostly this. Although type is not associated with crime I feel that EII can go wrong with their ideal expectations. I recall an EII who may expect her daughter to stay committed in a bad relationship in the hopes of working it out but if the EII notices the health of someone deteriorate and this becomes significant she will retract from her ideals. That ideal is "a relationship of husband and wife was made in holy union and it SHOULD not be split easy without a good effort in working things out."

    Another ideal for an EII is "young ladies should not wear promiscuous clothing" hence she may seem strict to those who are around her.

    Villain? I'm not sure if I can see an EII becoming honestly hated as we are easy to forgive and generally kind and most of our values are humanitarian in nature.

    EII will become frustrated and get angry (who doesn't?) but they don't want a significant break in relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    you are absolutely correct, but I believe unhealthy individuals and bad people can come from any type. perhaps 'villain' is too harsh of a word. EIIs are inclined to respectability, yes—but they are surely capable of wrongdoing just as any human. how do their negative characteristics manifest at unhealthy levels?—that is the question I find interest in. I cannot claim to have full understanding of a type if I do not recognize their various manifestations.
    There's one character on the Brothers Karamazov who is odd misunderstood and reactive. He is the closest resemblance to a disturbed EII. I'm going to leave it to you to find him we may discuss it when you do
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 07-20-2016 at 05:22 AM.
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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