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    Default Jeanne d'Arc / Joan of Arc

    Her life is a pretty interesting story and somewhat inspiring except for her death by fire.

    There's also a lot of written history conserved of her words during the trials.

    Anyone know her type? I have a hunch but not more than that.

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    EIE seems best - Se value + Fe inspiring + good imagination (Ni)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarno View Post
    Anyone know her type?
    the one which would got her videointerview, may be
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    My guess was ESI, since she was described as polite, hard working and honest, also she had strong morals and took religion serious.

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    My previous thoughts:

    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    What types for (the Biblical) Jesus, Muhammad...Joan of Arc? I had accepted EIE for all three.
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    Historically defined schizophrenic traits probably have best associations (if any) with intuition, and introversion, because otherwise, the individual's personality (in conjunction with the "abnormal" behaviours) would possibly be seen as representative of another disorder. Historic religious leaders such as Muhammad (maybe EIE), and Joan of Arc (?), could be "extroverted" in terms of their energy (their drive and way of motivating others), but they were very much driven by some inner voice. Comparative traits in a Ne-dominant figure would perhaps not come across as "schizophrenic" (although of course they might be diagnosable as such through brain scans...and genetic analysis might be highly indicative): the extent to which a disorder affects a person's actual or apparent type and vice versa would be a very interesting topic.
    I would say that using a likely mental illness (or some other illness) as an attribute of an individual's personality (and personality type) would be rather hazardous however, and that perhaps, it limits our ability to type her satisfactorily.

    Having said that, ESI would be my second consideration, after EIE.

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    Bump. https://www.thoughtco.com/joan-of-ar...allery-4122932

    There are no contemporary images of Joan, who has been described as short, stocky, and not particularly attractive
    No VI pictures I guess then.

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    beta NF

    EIE imo

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    Jeanne d'Arc / Joan of Arc - ISTP - Gabin


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    advice for everyone: always choose the exact opposite type of what khcs thinks. chances are very high that your result will be correct

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    Every european medieval depiction of people look SLI

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Every european medieval depiction of people look SLI
    Not that I think khcs' picture is likely particularly true to life, but I'd actually guess ESI from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Every european medieval depiction of people look SLI
    I think this website has a really weird understanding of SLI when it comes to VI. here's a (short) SLI list of mostly german people.

    http://soziotypen.de/die-16-soziotyp...sli-beispiele/

    their appearance looks nothing like the people that are constantly typed as SLI on this website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Not that I think khcs' picture is likely particularly true to life, but I'd actually guess ESI from it.
    It's not true to life. The portraitist never met Jeanne, who supposedly had tanned skin and black hair.

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    Using VI on a 2D Medieval depiction legitimately ranks as the single most retarded thing I've ever seen on this forum.

    Furthermore, VI'ing old paintings fails to understand the context within which they were made, with considerable physical alterations conforming to the fashionable styling of the times. Lastly, even the first several decades of real photography can hardly be used for VI, as people had to hold blank and stoic expressions for long periods of time, as the processing of old photographs took considerable time, thus expressions were effectively impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous Lynx View Post
    Using VI on a 2D Medieval depiction legitimately ranks as the single most retarded thing I've ever seen on this forum.

    Furthermore, VI'ing old paintings fails to understand the context within which they were made, with considerable physical alterations conforming to the fashionable styling of the times. Lastly, even the first several decades of real photography can hardly be used for VI, as people had to hold blank and stoic expressions for long periods of time, as the processing of old photographs took considerable time, thus expressions were effectively impossible.

    Yet, ISTP (Gabin) is a good starting point for her type.

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    I don’t know what her socionics type is, but I see her was a type 2w1, 1w2, 1w9 something like that. I feel like she is my mom’s archetype and I see my mom as something like EII.
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