VI me? (video)

[Sol]

This isn't MBTI where the feelers ignore facts while the thinkers are literally robots.

it's not such. MBT uses same Jung's types in similar manner except model for introverts. while Jung said about balance of functions in consciousness
Types descriptions in socionics texts are also overdone to make sharper the difference.

[Chakram]

Chakram is not EIE at all. I would say LIE but some people here already said no to that. He still seems like the most LIE guy to me. There are lots of logical types who are quite expressive. This isn't MBTI where the feelers ignore facts while the thinkers are literally robots.

A good amount of people in the chat have been saying LIE as well, so you're not alone in thinking that. I've been thinking this myself recently, it seems like a probable type for me.

[Exodus]

Posting a longer video would be helpful, but along with the questionnaire I think I have an idea.

-There was a lot about effectiveness, pragmatism, and functionality in your answers, even in the questions that didn't directly have to do with it.
-In the video you avoided the question about your personal qualities, which suggests difficulty in Fi, Ne, and also Ni somewhat. In the questionnaire the Fe questions were similarly not addressed very thoroughly, so Fe ego is probably unlikely.
-You seem physically active and a bit restless, were moving around a lot. Positive demeanor.
-Openness to possibilities - like when you discussed climbing Mt. Everest - not out of some need to push yourself necessarily but just as a "fun" thing to do. Negativity is mainly expressed in reponse to "stupid" claims or actions.

So overall I think LSE fits the best.

[Chakram]

Posting a longer video would be helpful, but along with the questionnaire I think I have an idea.

-There was a lot about effectiveness, pragmatism, and functionality in your answers, even in the questions that didn't directly have to do with it.
-In the video you avoided the question about your personal qualities, which suggests difficulty in Fi, Ne, and also Ni somewhat. In the questionnaire the Fe questions were similarly not addressed very thoroughly, so Fe ego is probably unlikely.
-You seem physically active and a bit restless, were moving around a lot. Positive demeanor.
-Openness to possibilities - like when you discussed climbing Mt. Everest - not out of some need to push yourself necessarily but just as a "fun" thing to do. Negativity is mainly expressed in reponse to "stupid" claims or actions.

So overall I think LSE fits the best.

Isn't it Ni types that typically have a poor sense of self/ seeing themselves from the outside? Otherwise I definitely agree with what you have said, the main thing is that I believe that Si, along with Fi, which fits for both, are my weakest functions, hence my leaning towards LIE over LSE.

[Exodus]

Isn't it Ni types that typically have a poor sense of self/ seeing themselves from the outside?

No, not at all. Intuition is what we use to "go outside of ourselves" -- Ne for viewing other perspectives, and Ni(Fe) for reflection on your "deeper" attributes, your identity. Fi is more about recognizing one's personal connection with someone or something as opposed to how it is objectively (logic).

[Pallas]

No, not at all. Intuition is what we use to "go outside of ourselves" -- Ne for viewing other perspectives, and Ni(Fe) for reflection on your "deeper" attributes, your identity. Fi is more about recognizing one's personal connection with someone or something as opposed to how it is objectively (logic).

Yes. I use my and to telescope my mind around all of space and time and look at stuff. Not really Yes really

Please don't carry MBTI Sun sign stereotypes into our territory or we're going to have to get all .

But anyways, @Chakram, and should be way easy to tell apart.

[Chakram]

Yes. I use my and to telescope my mind around all of space and time and look at stuff. Not really Yes really

Please don't carry MBTI Sun sign stereotypes into our territory or we're going to have to get all .

But anyways, @Chakram, and should be way easy to tell apart.

I definitely don't think I'm an ego Si type based off of my observations of others and myself.

[maniac]

No, not at all. Intuition is what we use to "go outside of ourselves"

Do not agree.
Most people have little idea of how they come off to others, how they vibe to others. Because we don't get an impression of ourselves. It's like asking what does the inside of your nose smell like? If we know ourself somewhat we can assume they think certain things about us.... its probably more an F thing.

Chakram is LII imo

[Exodus]

Do not agree.
Most people have little idea of how they come off to others, how they vibe to others.

ok, but some people are more aware than others. If you're talking about how someone "comes off" to others (aka primarily their external behavior) an EIE will be far more aware of this than an LSI or SLI, and in fact intentionally modify their behavior according to the setting (so yes, this does have to do with ethics). Other types will make a lot more mistakes in this area -- losing control of their emotions, being grating or conveying negativity unintentionally or at times that aren't beneficial.

What is much rarer (for example in socionics typing, which people are almost universally bad at) is for someone to be able to compare themselves objectively to others. But again, it's clear that certain types have much more innate skill at it than others.

[Sol]

What is much rarer (for example in socionics typing, which people are almost universally bad at) is for someone to be able to compare themselves objectively to others. But again, it's clear that certain types have much more innate skill at it than others.

objective thinking relates to Te mostly. Fe types may be the majority among wrongly self-typed or with unstable opinion about own type

[Emmym]

SLI or LII. Calling it.

[Chakram]

please reupload video @Chakram

googling maisie williams got me here, who im still curious about, but your video and the maisie video are gone so im completely empty-handed. you made quite a few comments that are exactly like this other SLI online i know would say, yet your balking against Si but now TIM being Si Base is confusing.

Comments from the most recent typing thread?

My typing history has been quite a mess and I believe it contributed to me making wrong assumptions about myself in an effort to get to a single type. I stepped away for a year and half or so which may have helped me be less biased from previous assumptions. I don't have the video anymore but could make another one I suppose.

[Chakram]

thanks for the offer! i was really only interested in seeing the original video, because this thread has such conflicting opinions... plus im a huge believer in the idea that for some people, they are continually changing blah blah - so how you were then may not be how you are now -- so all of the opinions here would be irrelevant, get what i mean?

you can make a new vid if youre curious, but dont do it for my sake as if a new video came i would have to [try to] view it as a brand new/random type video. i am curious why youve settled[-ish] on SLI when a lot thought ILI (Ni vs Si here).

I might have it on an old tablet, I'll check for it when I find the tablet and pm it to you if it's on there.

As far as SLI vs ILI, I guess it makes more sense for me to be an ST, partially due to my difficulty in being able to read myself and converge faster on a type which seems to be something that Intuition types are better at, and also that I have always tended to do well in things that are more physical and out in the world.

It is interesting to note that I've done 2 "interviews" with different people that have offered this service and seem to know the theory pretty well, one typed me as LIE and the other LSE.

[Exodus]

I might have it on an old tablet, I'll check for it when I find the tablet and pm it to you if it's on there.

As far as SLI vs ILI, I guess it makes more sense for me to be an ST, partially due to my difficulty in being able to read myself and converge faster on a type which seems to be something that Intuition types are better at, and also that I have always tended to do well in things that are more physical and out in the world.

It is interesting to note that I've done 2 "interviews" with different people that have offered this service and seem to know the theory pretty well, one typed me as LIE and the other LSE.

Mind saying who you did the interviews with?

[Chakram]

Mind saying who you did the interviews with?

WSS for LSE and a user named Entropic for LIE.