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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    There is nothing in typology what says about only "slight variances". The main thing typology says - a man has one function stronger than his other, for example T vs F. It does not says how much is this balance and how strong in absolute value the function is. Some people may to have a function significantly stronger than other people of same type. Most people are similar and live in similar conditions - so you don't see this difference, but it's possible.
    Yes that is correct, it is the 'dimensions' of the information element. Meaning lead (the program) and demostrative is 4D and therefor the strongest. In Socionics all eight variations have a define purpose. Aušra Augustinavičiūtė, the founder of Socionics, said that in order to develop one element you have to pass on an other, naturally, and therefor we grow incomplete. We do it very early in development and from there we set the foundation how we function. But it is not only the dimension that is important but how we use it, if we value it, what purpose it have within our set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    There is nothing in typology what says about only "slight variances". The main thing typology says - a man has one function stronger than his other, for example T vs F. It does not says how much is this balance and how strong in absolute value the function is. Some people may to have a function significantly stronger than other people of same type. Most people are similar and live in similar conditions - so you don't see this difference, but it's possible.
    So you are saying it is possible, just not with slight variances, more just one being stronger, of course it is a difficult thing to define though. What do you think makes me an ENTp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    So you are saying it is possible, just not with slight variances, more just one being stronger, of course it is a difficult thing to define though. What do you think makes me an ENTp?
    But there is a reason it is called dimensions. It is how big this space is within you. If Ni is a big part of you then you probably have high dimension Ni.

    Edit: I watched the video and I see you making logic reasoning about atheist. Not much but perhaps SEI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Israel Capitan View Post
    But there is a reason it is called dimensions. It is how big this space is within you. If Ni is a big part of you then you probably have high dimension Ni.

    Edit: I watched the video and I see you making logic reasoning about atheist. Not much but perhaps SEI?
    Yea that makes sense, and of course those spaces can be different. I don't think I'm SEI, I don't value Si, at all, and other people that know me irl generally pick Si as being one of my weakest functions, and I would agree. Of course not like this one video is a lot of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Yea that makes sense, and of course those spaces can be different. I don't think I'm SEI, I don't value Si, at all, and other people that know me irl generally pick Si as being one of my weakest functions, and I would agree. Of course not like this one video is a lot of information.
    The worldview is ILE and SEI is not that different in structure but in complexity of their elements. If you are intuitive program then you lack sensing and all that comes with it. The Se of a IEI is one dimensional. It is yes or no. The complexity of the leading is high and easy. It just strike me that the next step of your quest to find your type would be to have input from a ILE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Israel Capitan View Post
    The worldview is ILE and SEI is not that different in structure but in complexity of their elements. If you are intuitive program then you lack sensing and all that comes with it. The Se of a IEI is one dimensional. It is yes or no. The complexity of the leading is high and easy. It just strike me that the next step of your quest to find your type would be to have input from a ILE.
    You are bit hard to understand. I do not know any ILEs in real life that know much about socionics, in fact I'm not sure if I know any at all that I'm actually friends with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    You are bit hard to understand. I do not know any ILEs in real life that know much about socionics, in fact I'm not sure if I know any at all that I'm actually friends with.
    My guess SEI was because you seem to have Ti in the same way other IEI does and you spend very much focus on sensation, for example in your opening question. What annoys you? It was a bunch of sensations which is defined Si.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    So you are saying it is possible, just not with slight variances
    Typology theory has nothing about limits how much a function of people of same type may to differ. I think the difference sometimes may to be significant, similarly as there are people with significant difference in other things like height, weight, IQ, etc. Most people will be close, but some may differ significantly. That's the idea.

    What do you think makes me an ENTp?
    Impressions from your nonverbal behavior. I'm not sure in this type, but have no better version now.
    You may look at my bloggers examples to check how the version fits to intertype relations theory - which types give you more liking and personal trust. At least you may decide - F types you prefer or T, if F then Fe or Fi, etc.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Israel Capitan View Post
    My guess SEI was because you seem to have Ti in the same way other IEI does and you spend very much focus on sensation, for example in your opening question. What annoys you? It was a bunch of sensations which is defined Si.
    Just sounds, it's misophonia, from what I've seen the correlation between that actually tends to be higher in people that that are INXx. There's actually a thing exactly on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/misophonia/comments/1va8eb/what_is_your_myersbriggs_personality_type/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Just sounds, it's misophonia, from what I've seen the correlation between that actually tends to be higher in people that that are INXx. There's actually a thing exactly on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/misophonia/comments/1va8eb/what_is_your_myersbriggs_personality_type/


    Why do you think you are of type Ni? Good luck finding your type, it might take a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Israel Capitan View Post
    Why do you think you are of type Ni? Good luck finding your type, it might take a while!
    I can relate to the descriptions of it, I'm good at predicting how events will unfold, definitely not always right because there are a lot of factors but I tend to do it a lot anyways, plus other stuff. As I had said, I had thought I was a Ti ego for a while though just with strong Ni usage, now I am realizing there was a good chance I was mistaken in this.

    My sensing, in the broad sense of the term, is not very good, occasions where my friend, probably an SLE, would point out something in the environment, something obvious to him and I wouldn't notice it, and he would make fun of me for it and wonder how I didn't notice it.

    So you would say IEI is likely or something else? @Israel Capitan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    So you would say IEI is likely or something else? @Israel Capitan
    You gota learn stuff and introspect and find your type. I can not help you anymore. Gl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Israel Capitan View Post
    You gota learn stuff and introspect and find your type. I can not help you anymore. Gl
    I have been doing both of those things obviously. I made a thread to get new opinions because my type had remained an enigma to me, it does seem like it has been back on the right track after the creation of this thread.

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    @Sapling has pointed out that me and this girl (IEI) seem very similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMAl...C0iU01zwO7Q1N3
    I am kind of curious to see what everyone else thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    @Sapling has pointed out that me and this girl (IEI) seem very similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMAl...C0iU01zwO7Q1N3
    I am kind of curious to see what everyone else thinks
    Idk what type she is but i dont see the similarity. anyways i think youre probably LII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    Idk what type she is but i dont see the similarity. anyways i think youre probably LII.
    She is IEI, which I put in parenthesis. I suppose LII is still on the table, although it seems much less likely than IXI currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    She is IEI, which I put in parenthesis. I suppose LII is still on the table, although it seems much less likely than IXI currently.
    Yeah just because someone types as something doesnt mean its accurate. So you think you seek Se?

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    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    Yeah just because someone types as something doesnt mean its accurate. So you think you seek Se?
    I think it's that most people agree that she is IEI. In shows and movies, Se types tend to be among the people I like. If you have ever watched Spartacus, I like Quintus Batiatus quite a bit, he is quite possibly an SLE. I mean that entire show is just a lot of Se lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    I think it's that most people agree that she is IEI. In shows and movies, Se types tend to be among the people I like. If you have ever watched Spartacus, I like Quintus Batiatus quite a bit, he is quite possibly an SLE. I mean that entire show is just a lot of Se lol.
    She may be SEI. And no havent seen that. In video you vibe as Si/Ne valuing and perhaps Fe and you look exactly like my alpha NT friend so thats all i have to say i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    @Sapling has pointed out that me and this girl (IEI) seem very similar
    I don't see you similar.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I don't see you similar.
    Well I have no idea then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Well I have no idea then.
    try to analyse impressions from different types. if you are Ni type you should like Se types more than Si types
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    try to analyse impressions from different types. if you are Ni type you should like Se types more than Si types
    I'm just a bundle of giant contradictions honestly. After watching some videos, I do tend to be attracted to SF types the most, namely Alpha SFs they just seem so friendly. I've also liked M.I.A and Kari Byron for as long as I can remember, and they are apparently SEIs, according to that video list anyways. I mean maybe I do seek Si and Fe and just haven't realized it, because Si is not strong in me at all so I thought I didn't like it?

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    Do you like hope ellis? watch some more videos pretty sure shes xSFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    Do you like hope ellis? watch some more videos pretty sure shes xSFP
    Yea she seems nice, I get a good vibe from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    I mean maybe I do seek Si and Fe and just haven't realized it, because Si is not strong in me at all so I thought I didn't like it?
    If you mostly like Si ego types then Si is your value.
    If you disliked something associated with problems in weak functions region, - it's normally.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    If you mostly like Si ego types then Si is your value.
    If you disliked something associated with problems in weak functions region, - it's normally.
    Ok, I will keep looking to make sure, that's just off of a quick impression of some videos. One of the male ESI's looked like he was on the verge of crying the entire time, it was kind of pathetic.
    But yea, I need to watch more, I have a hard time deciding on what I like sometimes.
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    Not sure if comparisons are useful, but people that know me very well have compared me to Arya Stark from game of thrones, they said that I'm almost exactly like her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Not sure if comparisons are useful, but people that know me very well have compared me to Arya Stark from game of thrones, they said that I'm almost exactly like her.
    Sol types Maisie Williams SLI
    but again i dont see the similarity lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Not sure if comparisons are useful, but people that know me very well have compared me to Arya Stark from game of thrones, they said that I'm almost exactly like her.
    Have you seen the show? Do you like the character?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue View Post
    Have you seen the show? Do you like the character?
    I do like the character and can relate to her, I only saw the first couple of seasons though.

    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    Sol types Maisie Williams SLI
    but again i dont see the similarity lol
    Not the Actress, the character. Who is more in the realm of Se I believe, but I've seen her typed as a couple different things.

    Could I just be a weird ESTp-Ti? That subtype description does sound like me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    I do like the character and can relate to her, I only saw the first couple of seasons though.



    Not the Actress, the character. Who is more in the realm of Se I believe, but I've seen her typed as a couple different things.

    Could I just be a weird ESTp-Ti? That subtype description does sound like me.
    you def do not come off as Se ego to me. weak Se.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    you def do not come off as Se ego to me. weak Se.
    Maybe, I don't think I'm Ti base, I'm not structured enough to be that.
    As well, since I'm here, I will say I don't think I'm Si, Fe, or Fi base. Probably not Te either.
    So from my point of view the options are Ne, Ni, and Se, but I guess I don't come off as very Se. I guess I'm not always that practical either.
    Last edited by Chakram; 07-16-2016 at 04:07 AM.

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    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...cs-Four-Quadra

    Based off of these, especially the ones at the bottom, I would definitely say Beta and Gamma. From the Socionics.org summary especially.

    Are these the best descriptions of Quadras to go off of? There doesn't seem to be much on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...cs-Four-Quadra

    Based off of these, especially the ones at the bottom, I would definitely say Beta and Gamma. From the Socionics.org summary especially.

    Are these the best descriptions of Quadras to go off of? There doesn't seem to be much on them.
    They can be helpful but theres always going to be exceptions. What are some celebrities you really like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    They can be helpful but theres always going to be exceptions. What are some celebrities you really like?
    I'm not sure, I don't really know what any celebrities are like outside of their movie or show roles.

    My girlfriend really likes comparing me to ESTps and ESFps for some reason. Like Arya Stark, and today she compared me to Ice cube if you can believe that, a slightly more friendly version though. She also tends to pick Se descriptions for me over Si. Now I could just be an ILE or ILI that seems like those two types. I'm probably just a weird combination of enneagram and socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    I'm not sure, I don't really know what any celebrities are like outside of their movie or show roles.

    My girlfriend really likes comparing me to ESTps and ESFps for some reason. Like Arya Stark, and today she compared me to Ice cube if you can believe that, a slightly more friendly version though. She also tends to pick Se descriptions for me over Si. Now I could just be an ILE or ILI that seems like those two types. I'm probably just a weird combination of enneagram and socionics.
    So she thinks youre excellent at using force and you often use force and order people around to get what you want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by universe View Post
    So she thinks youre excellent at using force and you often use force and order people around to get what you want?
    That's not all of what Se is, she says I can be a bit aggressive sometimes though, but any type can be. Neither of those people are particularly bossy either, they are just what she has compared me to, the Ice Cube one was today while watching Ride Along. Her typing of other people is not very good though, she really only seems to focus on emotions.

    This might not be Se related but when I was a kid I would beat up people if they annoyed me lol (This only happened maybe 2-3 times though). I have much better self control now.
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    So I definitely have a hard time knowing what I am/ seem like from the outside. But it seems like I come off as NT, I had some people read the information elements. My dad said I seemed like Ni and Te, I asked him about Ti and he said it doesn't sound like me, then my Step-mom said Ni and Ti, but not really Te. I also told them what I thought they were after they read through and they agreed with my typing of them and of each other. Dad Si, Step-mom Se.

    I think I'm between ixi and slightly less likely lii/ile. Hard to know which though.

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    Chakram is not EIE at all. I would say LIE but some people here already said no to that. He still seems like the most LIE guy to me. There are lots of logical types who are quite expressive. This isn't MBTI where the feelers ignore facts while the thinkers are literally robots.

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