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    Doing this because I haven't done a 21Q before! Mostly for fun and I enjoy how these questions aren't function-specific.


    I currently type at SEE-Fi 6w7 sx/so, but other well-reasoned input is welcomed too if you disagree. Feel free to ask more questions or elaborations. Thanks for reading.

    Personal concepts

    1. What is beauty? What is love?

    Beauty is in nature, to me. I love to do nature photography. I find beauty in colors, too. I love fashion as well, especially gothic fashion. I find beauty in darker things.

    Love is more complicated. It’s an intense feeling for someone. A desire to be close to them and to never let them go. A bond, an understanding. Love is intense.

    2. What are your most important values?

    Strength, honesty, truth, loyalty, authenticity, and doing what is good.

    3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

    I am a Pagan and a witch. I believe in the forces of nature. I’m very much into the mysterious, archetypal, symbolic, and supernatural. I hold these beliefs because I believe there is an underlying realm in the world, that there’s more than meets the eye.

    4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

    I don’t like war, honestly. But I do believe in fighting to keep what is yours and defending your home and what is right. Power is strength, intimidation, fearlessness and a knowing that you can conquer with force.

    Interests
    5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

    I’ve had long conversations about my interests. Like movies, videogames, etc.
    I’ve also had long conversations about my relationships and memories. Talking about my family and friends and my relationships with them, our dynamics.

    6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

    Health/medicine is a kind of interesting topic to me. I love biology as it is fascinating. I’m studying to be a veterinarian currently, actually. I’m sort of focused on my body. I want to physically fit so I can do things like run, dance, hike, work, etc. and to look good.

    7. What do you think of daily chores?

    I hate them. Lol.

    8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

    Books: Tales of the Necromancer series, Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children, The Hunger Games, The House of Night series, The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings, Bram Stoker’s Dracula, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, and I’m currently reading a book called The Dark Days by Alison Goodman. When I was younger, I loved the Warrior Cats books by Erin Hunter. A lot of Stephen King books. There are many more but the list would be exhaustive. Lol.

    Movies: Marvel films, The Batman Nolan trilogy, Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, The Labyrinth, Phantom of the Opera, Independence Day, and the ones I want to see that are coming out are Tarzan, Independence Day: Resurgence, and Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children.

    TV Shows: (I don’t watch much TV, so bear with me here) Gotham, Raising Hope, Ghost Hunting/Paranormal shows, some Game of Thrones.

    Anime: (I don’t like anime too much but the few I like are worth mentioning) Black Butler, Hellsing, Wolf’s Rain, Hetalia, and I’ve started watching Death Note. Not bad. I used to love InuYasha when I was younger but I can’t stomach it anymore.

    Music: (Metal is my favorite genre, though I’m diverse) Nightwish, Within Temptation, Epica, Disturbed, Evanescence, Halestorm, Sonata Arctica, The Sisters of Mercy
    And I do like some mainstream songs because I like the beat they have.

    9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

    I’ve cried out of worry for my mother’s health, fear of my future, when my father died and when I’ve missed him dearly.

    What has made me smile is a little harder. Laughing at something funny, being with my friends, watching the horses in the pasture, winning at a riding competition.

    10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

    When I have all my friends together and am interacting with them, definitely when I’m being physical (running, hiking, dancing, swimming, etc.), when I’m getting things done, when I’m in nature and engaging in it.

    Evaluation & Behaviour
    11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

    I’m a bit impulsive. As in, if something is overwhelming to me I eradicate it too quickly especially when emotional. That I can be a bit selfish at times. Or I sometimes jump on things too fast. I dislike that I sometimes lack an attention span and can’t plan things out well.

    12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

    That I’m very strong mentally, independent, learn physical things quickly, a hard worker, adaptable, and reliable. I like that I am capable of doing things on my own for the most part.

    13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

    I would like help on things like planning a course of action for my life and activities. I tend to struggle with some things like writing papers or projects for college. Some help with things like financial planning, as I have goals in my life I’d like to achieve but I’m not entirely sure how to get there.

    14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

    Yes. Right now. I feel stuck when I don’t make progress with things. In my horse riding career I feel stuck because I am unable to pay for shows and things. If I don’t advance I feel stuck. I’ve had foot surgery and have not been able to work or anything, so I feel stuck because I’m not doing anything.

    People & Interactions
    15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

    I dislike when people are loud, obnoxious, and don’t take things seriously. I dislike when people are rude or aren’t respectful of other’s feelings. I get along with people who are quiet yet fun, have similar interests to myself, and who I can have deeper conversations with.

    16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

    I’m a romantic person and do have a higher sex drive. I want someone who can handle my intensity, keeps up with me, and is loyal and reliable.


    17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

    I don’t like kids and don’t really want them. But I would teach them not to whine, just do things/not give up, and how to be respectful. I think I would be a rather strict mother. However, I would also value my children doing their own thing and making their own choices. As in, I wouldn’t dictate them on what they should wear for example.

    18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

    I’m pretty quiet about my beliefs, but if something really clashes I would state my point clearly and explain my viewpoint. I would choose my words carefully yet I would not hold back my opinion.

    19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

    I don’t really give a crap about society to be honest. I generally dislike people. I guess a prevalent social problem is how the media pushes a certain image onto people, especially females. I hate that.
    20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?
    I choose my friends based on common interests and perhaps worldviews. They share my sort of humor and I seek to build a bond with them. Around my friends, I’m fun loving and like to joke/tease.

    21. How do you behave around strangers?
    I’m hesitant around strangers. They make me nervous and I do have social anxiety. But I’m polite and respectful, still, if a bit guarded. I don’t like interacting with a bunch of strangers.
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    I can see a strong Fi, and I can see Se too. Your speech pattern looks like inductive reasoning than deductive to me, so I think, maybe ESI, though I'm not so sure. This is your second thread in this subforum, you don't feel so sure about your type (SEE)?

    Eh, and sorry about my poor grammar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue hummingbird View Post
    I can see a strong Fi, and I can see Se too. Your speech pattern looks like inductive reasoning than deductive to me, so I think, maybe ESI, though I'm not so sure. This is your second thread on this subforum, you don't feel so sure about your type (SEE)?

    Eh, and sorry about my poor grammar.
    Hi. Thanks for replying.

    Yeah, I've been back and forth between SEE, ESI, and even ESE for a while now.

    What seems like strong Fi to you?

    And don't worry! Your grammar is good to me and I'm an English minor. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I've been back and forth between SEE, ESI, and even ESE for a while now.
    You may look at LII, ILE, LIE and ILI types in my blogers examples and sort them by personal liking.

    Your grammar is good to me and I'm an English minor. Lol.
    everyone today may to have his own grammar. like in cave times. freedome
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    You may look at LII, ILE, LIE and ILI types in my blogers examples and sort them by personal liking.
    That's a good idea.
    everyone today may to have his own grammar. like in cave times. freedome
    What'd you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue hummingbird View Post
    What'd you mean?
    Joking about general decline of culture and education covered by liberal ideology.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue hummingbird View Post
    That's a good idea.

    What'd you mean?
    lol he means today or in this day people can make and have their own grammar (rules and all) like in the cave days when people were just creating languages. That is freedom of human action.

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Oops. Yes! I was looking for specific points that ring as Fi to you.
    Judging who is good or bad. Coming to one's ethical conclusions of things rather than reflecting on society's expectations of ethics
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    You are very welcome, really.

    Well, according to wikisocion:
    The individual sees reality primarily through static personal ethics and stable interpersonal bonds between individuals, including himself, where the status of such interpersonal bonds is determined by his personal ethics. The individual is very confident in evaluating the ethical or moral qualities, and their consistency, of other people. This makes the individual seem "judgemental" or "self-righteous" to people less so inclined. If he has difficulty in deciding the status of a personal relationship, he will take action to try to reach a conclusion but if that continues to elude him, he will regard the relationship as not worth it. His own sense of constancy in personal ethics and in his relationships with others is a very strong factor in his sense of self-worth.

    Fi in this position implies the ability to almost instantly recognize whether someone is a friend or an enemy, whether they are demonstrating good will or ill will, and whether they are drawn to or repelled by the individual.
    Do you feel the paragraph above fits? Have you read any ESI or SEE descriptions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue hummingbird View Post
    Do you feel the paragraph above fits? Have you read any ESI or SEE descriptions?
    Yes, I've read both. I relate to Fi base a bit more than Se, but I also relate quite a bit more to Ti PoLR than Ne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Yes, I've read both. I relate to Fi base a bit more than Se, but I also relate quite a bit more to Ti PoLR than Ne.
    Then you are SEE, but with introverted subtype or just timid around people for a reason. A sociotype is like a color with different hues and shades, your red is different than other people although they share the same sociotype with you. Why all the doubts?

    Edited:
    Sorry, I know typing is a tricky business. Since you are asking my opinion, I still think you are ESI. My reasoning is that you are an inductive user based on how you write your thoughts. I love Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69's article about forms of cognition and for me, it's very interesting. I don't really base my judgement on PoLR since you can learn how to overcome your vulnerable function (read DCNH and Social Masks), but I do find Hidden Agenda quite helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue hummingbird View Post
    Then you are SEE, but with introverted subtype or just timid around people for a reason. A sociotype is like a color with different hues and shades, your red is different than other people although they share the same sociotype with you. Why all the doubts?
    I like your example, lol.

    I guess my doubt just stems from the fact that I've had varying opinions in the past, both with decent reasoning for them. However, I do suppose I know my own head better than anyone.

    What stood out to you as strong Fi and inductive reasoning, if I may ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I like your example, lol.

    I guess my doubt just stems from the fact that I've had varying opinions in the past, both with decent reasoning for them. However, I do suppose I know my own head better than anyone.

    What stood out to you as strong Fi and inductive reasoning, if I may ask?
    I aim to please.

    Yes, that is right, people can throw their opinions at you but in the end, it's your decision. Well, my impression about strong Fi is exactly like wikisocion above, since that's where I got all of my understanding or do you want me to list any numbers I found as a strong Fi in your questionnaire?

    Gross simplification, inductive reasoning is one of two forms you unconsciously tend to pick when you speak up your thoughts. Inductive means you tend to sum up, conclude, or simplify everything you want to say first then you describe the facts or reasons behind it. For example:
    11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

    I’m a bit impulsive. As in, if something is overwhelming to me I eradicate it too quickly especially when emotional. That I can be a bit selfish at times. Or I sometimes jump on things too fast. I dislike that I sometimes lack an attention span and can’t plan things out well.
    See, you wrote that you're impulsive (a conclusion first) then you described the reasons why you called yourself a bit impulsive. If you were deductive (like SEE, ILI, EIE, etc), I think you would do it in reverse order; facts first then conclusion. I hope my explanation is adequate enough, since I'm not a native English speaker, haha

    Anyway, it's up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Funny. I thought that Inductive and Deductive is just a matter of Te valuing (inductive) versus Ti valuing (deductive)

    So, inductives are Gammas and Deltas and deductives are Alphas and Betas.

    And isn't deductive the one that begins with a conclusion and then lists the facts, whereas inductive is facts then conclusion?

    Thanks for your response, though
    Deductive and inductive in Socionics are different, and it's not about Ti or Te valuing. Actually, there are two inductive types and deductive types in each quadra, so not exclusively for x and y quadra only. Deductive and inductive (evolutionary and involutionary, process and result, left and right) are from Reinin Dicothomies.

    - Deductive types, ILE, LSI, SEE, EII, EIE, ILI, SEI, LSE, from simple to complex, small to large, internally complicate the problem or situation. Details are important. More preferable in our society.
    - Inductive types, LII, ESE, LIE, ESI, SLE, IEI, SLI, IEE from complex to simple, large to small, simplify the problem in order to understand it. Details can wait. Good at decision-making in a critical situation.

    This is where I got my understanding about deductive and inductive; it's a rather extensive and contemplative reading, or you can read Reinin Dichothomies if you want.

    No, it's fine.

    Oh yeah, the numbers. 1, 2, 15, 17, 18, 21, and a bit all of them. Like I said above, I don't solely use inductive/deductive (Reinin Dichotomies), I also use functions. You used inductive paragraphs in the questionnaire repeatedly, so I thought, "Well, strong Fi and Se, inductive tendency thus ESI is my call". Reinin Dichotomies and Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69's Forms of Cognition are not a simple, painless way for typing, thus the more I speak about cognition, the more useless my advice . Anyway, pick your type and I wish you good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    They might be referring to DarkAngelFireWolf69's cognitive styles here? It might be more confusing for initial self typing though since we all use both inductive and deductive reasoning.
    Hello, Aylen!
    You are quite right too. However, I always think inductive/deductive as a tendency, not set in a stone.

    I'm a female.

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    @SheWolf

    Have you considered Beta NF? I am glad I read the op. We actually have a few things in common. I guess Gamma SF is as good a choice as any but I am getting a bit of a Beta vibe. Also, have you considered sx/sp? There is something very familiar about you. You remind me of someone else who posted here awhile back who also had similar interests.

    Did you make a video or post pics?

    FWIW, Se valuing is the strongest vibe I am getting. Otherwise you feel a bit nebulous, to me. I guess I will just pay more attention and see if anything forms from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    There is something very familiar about you. You remind me of someone else who posted here awhile back who also had similar interests.
    I agree. I think we are thinking of the same person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    You remind me of someone else who posted here awhile back who also had similar interests. Did you make a video or post pics?
    video
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1131630
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Yup. That's me.

    I can honestly say I literally just enjoy filling out questionnaires. Lol. For the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    @SheWolf

    Have you considered Beta NF? I am glad I read the op. We actually have a few things in common. I guess Gamma SF is as good a choice as any but I am getting a bit of a Beta vibe. Also, have you considered sx/sp? There is something very familiar about you. You remind me of someone else who posted here awhile back who also had similar interests.

    Did you make a video or post pics?

    FWIW, Se valuing is the strongest vibe I am getting. Otherwise you feel a bit nebulous, to me. I guess I will just pay more attention and see if anything forms from that.
    I have considered Beta NF before. Like maybe EIE. But, I don't really relate to the whole "affecting emotional atmosphere" stuff that Fe-dom is associated with. I certainly don't think I'm Ni-dom either, though the Ni questions are very interesting to me. I talk to an ILI regularly though Skype, who types me at SEE-Fi.

    Nebulous, hm? Well, I would say that questionnaires really just skim the surface of a person honestly. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer. As for my Enneagram, I type at 6w7 > 4w3 > 1w9 sx/so

    Here's a picture gallery.

    http://imgur.com/a/qiEoO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Subtypes is not normal Socionics. DCNH is just one of baseless bs.
    And with gathering exotic bs like subtypes you may only to fool yourself.
    Do you have any insights to prove its baselessness?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Here's a picture gallery.

    http://imgur.com/a/qiEoO
    Have you considered a VI thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue hummingbird View Post
    Have you considered a VI thread?
    If I did it would be for fun. I don't believe in typing off of VI alone. There's just nothing factual about it to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    @SheWolf

    Have you considered Beta NF? I am glad I read the op. We actually have a few things in common. I guess Gamma SF is as good a choice as any but I am getting a bit of a Beta vibe. Also, have you considered sx/sp? There is something very familiar about you. You remind me of someone else who posted here awhile back who also had similar interests.

    Did you make a video or post pics?

    FWIW, Se valuing is the strongest vibe I am getting. Otherwise you feel a bit nebulous, to me. I guess I will just pay more attention and see if anything forms from that.
    Quoting you again, Aylen, because someone else in a Socionics group on FB suggested I take EIE into consideration.

    So, I've been thinking about Si PoLR. An EIE told me her Si PoLR manifests in the form of her hating taking care of daily practicalities like cleaning, cooking, etc.

    This is quite true of me. I get this from my mother a lot. Not just that, either, but other responsibilities. Like setting up an appointment with my advisor for classes next semester. When my mother and sister (Alpha SF's) call me out on this I get really irritated.

    As for Si and aesthetics, I actually suck at it more than I thought. I dropped out of graphic design classes because I just... sucked. My teachers disliked everything I did and I just did not know how to fix my artwork to please them. I started getting pissed at their nit-picking for details and things.

    As for Si PoLR and internal body, I actually do have hypochondria. I have since I was little. But yet, I don't much care for when people fuss over my comfort.
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    Started a VI thread if anyone is interested because I might as well. Lol.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...33#post1138833
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    based on the video, the photos and the questionnaire, your stacking seems sp/sx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim View Post
    based on the video, the photos and the questionnaire, your stacking seems sp/sx!
    How so? I'm pretty confident of sx first.
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    From your vid, I kinda lean your type towards ESI-Fi> SEE-Fi. You don't give off EP or EJ vibe. Fairly stoic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    From your vid, I kinda lean your type towards ESI-Fi> SEE-Fi. You don't give off EP or EJ vibe. Fairly stoic.
    Mmm... the problem with my video is I act differently on camera than I do in person. I'm much more emotive and energetic with others around. I was a little bit nervous on camera.

    How would an EP differ from an EJ?
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    see-fi

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