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    Adam Strange (LIE) - ISTP, ESTJ
    aisa - ESFP, INTP
    Aiss (INFP) - , ESFJ
    Aleksei (ENFJ) - ISTJ, ENFJ
    Alstroemeria - ISFJ, ISFP
    Amber (ISTJ) - ENTJ, ISFJ
    Anglas (ENTJ) - ISTJ, ISFJ
    anndelise (ENFP) - ESFP, INFJ
    April - INTP, ENFP
    Aylen (INFP) - ENFJ INTP~, ISTJ
    Azeroffs (ENTJ) - ESTJ, ENTP
    Bane (ENFJ) - ENTP, ISFP
    bionic (ENTJ) - , INFJ
    Blaze (ENTP) - INFJ, ESTJ
    BulletsAndDoves (INFP) - INTJ, ESFJ
    calenwen - ESTJ, INFJ
    Chae (ENFJ) - ISTP, ISFJ
    chips and underwear - ISTP,
    CILi - , ISFP
    Codie (INFP) - , ESFJ
    ConcreteButterfly - ENTJ, ESFJ
    Contra (INTP) - ESTJ, INFJ
    Crispy (INTP) - , ISFJ
    Cuddly McFluffles (ISFJ) - ISTJ~, ESFJ
    DaftPunk (ISTP) - , ISTP
    darya (ENFJ) - ISTJ, ENFJ
    dinki (INFP) - ISTP, ESTJ
    Director Abbie (ESTJ) - ENFP, ISTP
    DividedsGhost (ESFJ) - , ISFP
    Eliza Thomason (ENFP) - ISTP, ISFJ
    epheme - ISFP, ENFP
    EyeSeeCold (INTP) - , ESFJ
    Francesca Rose (INFP) - , INTP
    Galen (ENFP) - ESFJ, ISFP
    glam - ISTJ, ENFP
    golden (ENFJ) - ESFP, INTP
    Guillaine (ENFP) - INFP, ISTJ
    HERO (INFP) - , ENFJ
    inumbra - , ESFJ
    jewels (ENFP) - INTJ, ISFP
    Jenna (INFP) - , ENFJ
    Joven Erudito89 (INFJ) - , INFP
    JuJu (ENFJ) - ISTP, ESTP
    Krig the Viking (INTJ) - , INFJ
    lemontrees (ISFP) - ESTJ, ESFP
    LeShay (ESFP) - ISFP~,
    Logos (INTJ) - , ENFJ
    lungs (ISFJ) - ISTJ, INFP
    machintruc - ISFJ, ENFJ
    malna (INFJ) - INTJ, ENFJ
    Marie84 (INFJ) - ISTJ, ENTP
    Maritsa (ENFJ) - ESFP, INTP
    Martrix, The (ENFJ) - INTJ, INFP
    MasterfulMischief - ESTJ, ISFJ
    Mattie (ENFP) - INTP, ESFP
    meatburger (ENFP) - ISTJ, ISFJ
    Mediator Kam (ISFP) - , ESFJ
    mikemex (ENFP) - INTJ, ENFJ
    NorthernRose - INFJ, ESTP
    Nowisthetime (ISFP) - , ISFJ
    meals (ISTP) - , ISFJ
    Morcheeba (ENFJ) - , ESTP
    Myst (ISTJ) - LIE, ESI
    Narc (ENTJ) - INTP, ISFJ
    NewBorn STAR (ESTJ) - ISFJ, ISFJ
    octo (INFP) - INTJ, ESFJ
    Persephone - ESTP, ESTJ
    Pink (INFP) - ENTJ, ESTJ
    PistolShrimp (INFP) - ESTP, ISFP
    Pookie (INFP) - ISTJ, INFJ
    Radio - ESFJ, ENFP
    Raver (ENFP) - , ESFJ
    redbaron - ISFP, INFJ
    ryoka14 - ISFP,
    Saberstorm (INTJ) - ENFP, INFP
    Saoshyant (INTP) - , ENFJ
    sindri (INFP) - INTJ, ISFP
    SisOfNight (INFP) - ESTJ, ESFJ
    Slacker (ENFP) - ENFJ, ENTJ
    Sol (ESTJ) - ISTJ, ESFJ
    Starfall (INFP) - INFP, ENFP
    strangeling - ESTJ, ISFP
    Subteigh (INFJ) - ISTJ, ISFJ
    suedehead - , ISFP
    Supremacist (ISTP) - INFJ, ENFJ
    Suz (ESFJ) - , ISFP
    SyrupDeGem - INFP ENTP~,
    thehotelambush (INTJ) - ISTJ, ENTJ
    Typhon (ENFJ) - INTP, INFJ
    unefille (INFJ) - ISTJ, ESFJ
    Warlord - ESTP, ENFP
    willekeurig - ISTJ, ENFJ
    woofwoofl (ESFP) - , ESFJ
    Wynch (ENTP) - ESTJ, INTP
    xerx (ENTP) - ISTJ, ENFJ
    yellow82 (ESFJ) - , INTP
    Zed (INTJ) - , INFJ
    1981slater (ENTP) - ISTJ, ENFJ
    717495 - , ISFJ

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    in '()' is generally the type a member thinks as own
    father, mother
    ~ - adoption parent
    LII=INTJ

    used:
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-father-s-type
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-mother-s-type
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...our-Parents-in
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...n-your-parents
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-mother-s-type
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Relationships
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...family-members

    types of brothers/sisters:
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...er(s)-sister(s)
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    My dad is SEE (was)

    And, how do you trust that I've typed them correctly and that I haven't typed myself or MY mom hasn't typed me correctly?
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    You forgot my favorite LSE @leckysupport
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Eh, if I said ENFp at the time for my mom, I was wrong. She is much more likely to be INFj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    how do you trust that I've typed them correctly
    I don't trust and only have writen what people said.

    You forgot my favorite LSE leckysupport
    I did not see data about his parents types.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    My mother types me EII. You should trust her. She's only known me for 37 years and she has only known her other kids for a bit shorter than that. Also my dad has never been typed by anyone here. He's SEE
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Fuck off or take me off of this list.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    Fuck off or take me off of this list.
    Now you'll stay there with your real type forever.

    Also thanks, for showing here the native behavior fitting to the said type and contradicting to what you say about yourself. This information is useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Now you'll stay there with your real type forever.
    Good And here's my real typing of you forever

    @Sol SLE forever.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    LSI and EII
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    EII dad xSE mom
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    Now it's (ISFJ) - INFP, ISTJ

    Edit: lol nvm I got sols join date mixed up with the post date hahahah
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    ILE and SEI

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    Now it's (ISFJ) - INFP, ISTJ

    ask again in another 8 years who knows what will happen !?!

    (holy shit it's been 8 years)
    I have no defenses. I wish that I were more like you, lungs.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    My mother self types LSE (she knows about socionics) and we both type my father SLE. The only other possible type for him would be LSI.
    My father's parents LSI and IEI. My mother's parents EIE and LSI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    I have no defenses. I wish that I were more like you, lungs.
    I'm sorry I don't understand.

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    Slightly creepy original post, but I still type my father ESFp, and my mother INTp. As a couple they were a great example of how being duals is no magic pill, but you could still see the duality at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    being duals is no magic pill, but you could still see the duality at work
    Duality is a kind of magic as has strong relation to unconscious. But there are also other things affecting relations besides types.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Duality is a kind of magic as has strong relation to unconscious. But there are also other things affecting relations besides types.
    "Magic pill" means that duality is not always enough in and of itself. That means we agreed. So why correct me? I get very tired of your pedantic communication style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    "Magic pill" means that duality is not always enough in and of itself. That means we agreed. So why correct me? I get very tired of your pedantic communication style.
    Because he wants to be seen as competent and authoritarian/director

    I don't get tired of it but he hates me and types me EIE.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I am ENFp - Mom ISFj, Dad ISTp They were very stable and happy. Rarely ever argued, and conferred with each other on everything, and truly missed each other when they were apart (which was rare).
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
    ........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........


    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
    - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    "Magic pill" means that duality is not always enough
    It's never enough.
    Unfortunally Socionics was popularized by non-pscyhologists, but by journalists, esoterism fans etc. People did not read Jung's original source, while should. So they got information in the style of "yellow press" with simplification and exaggeration. In the style which validly reminded you popular esoteric stuff.

    So why correct me?
    Your statement was partly incorrect.

    I get very tired of your pedantic communication style.
    Such perception is common for Fe types of Te ones. While I don't like when people refuse evident things, what is common for Fe.
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    My mom seems Delta ST to me. Possibly ESTj. My dad is some sort of intuitive. The easiest category for him is Delta NF. One test put him as ENTj. This is based largely on their interactions with each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    My mom seems Delta ST to me. Possibly ESTj.
    I put sure concrete opinions and close to them. You may give tests to your parents and to think more about their types to get sure opinion. There is no time limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I put sure concrete opinions and close to them. You may give tests to your parents and to think more about their types to get sure opinion.
    I did give them tests. Mom came out as LSE. Dad had variety. He has "strong" Ni and likes that Te. What are tests you think are good (enough)? Tests seem like only one option in a toolbox of typing resources.

    Why do you need sure, concrete opinions?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    There is no time limit.
    Is it wrong I found this funny? I wasn't worried about time limits. But if I was, that'd be reassuring, yes, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    What are tests you think are good (enough)?
    I don't know about today English tests. Many years ago when I tortuted people near me by tests, including parents, I used dichotomy Gulenko's test with 72 questions - that was not bad and short. I printed questions, gave them to people, and then counted the answers. I don't know was it translated or not. Not many text, but the level of my English is below literary, so without "free talking" in English bi-lingual man the result will be similar to google's translator, what is not good to psychology tests. it's ok only for technical stuff. Tests help, give partly correct type, then you check close types and think what fit better.

    Why do you need sure, concrete opinions?
    Sure opinion means higher possibility it's correct. Concrete type - because such information is more interesting.

    Is it wrong I found this funny?
    The wrong thing was not to say sure opinion about concrete types, as did others. You need time to get those opinions. While you did not used it and said partly and unsure opinion. If you get fun, - it's good Better than to be depressed, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I don't know about today English tests. Many years ago when I tortuted people near me by tests, including parents, I used dichotomy Gulenko's test with 72 questions - that was not bad and short. I printed questions, gave them to people, and then counted the answers. I don't know was it translated or not. Not many text, but the level of my English is below literary, so without "free talking" in English bi-lingual man the result will be similar to google's translator, what is not good to psychology tests. it's ok only for technical stuff. Tests help, give partly correct type, then you check close types and think what fit better.
    Ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Sure opinion means higher possibility it's correct.
    I find your opinion here questionable. But, ok. It is your thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Concrete type - because such information is more interesting.
    Ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    The wrong thing was not to say sure opinion about concrete types, as did others.
    There was a distinct lack of instructions here. I could do what everyone else is doing, I suppose. But why default to that? <-- rhetorical question, no need to answer if you don't want to, though an answer could be interesting I suppose

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    You need time to get those opinions. While you did not used it and said partly and unsure opinion.
    I have had time (see my forum join date). It just hasn't been a high priority to decide what their types are. I find it more useful to determine friends' types.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    If you get fun, - it's good Better than to be depressed, at least.
    Indeed. Depression is different from not having fun, though. But, anyway, yes, laughter is good for the soul. Find the joy in life.



    Also, I see no mention of VI or video typing in this thread. I am amazed and know not what to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minde View Post
    I find your opinion here questionable.
    It's common opinion.

    There was a distinct lack of instructions here.
    Without special instructions it means to give similar data. All of which here is concrete types without signes of doubts.

    I have had time (see my forum join date).
    I said about future time, evidently.

    Also, I see no mention of VI or video typing in this thread.
    You are observant.

    When you'll get concrete sure opinions about your parents' types, there will be useful info you may write here. Get more fun.
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    @Minde sol just wants to be extra difficult today

    Maybe it's a test.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Such perception is common for Fe types of Te ones. While I don't like when people refuse evident things, what is common for Fe.
    1. It was a foregone conclusion that you'd respond by saying this is about Te and Fe. So there was no need for you to point that out. But if we want to play the Socionics game, I suppose your Ni problems make it impossible for you to see why it's not necessary for you to nominate yourself Mr. Instructor. Maybe you literally can't ascertain what other people can see coming and think you have to point everything out to them.

    2. You have an especially severe case of know-it-all-itis. I was married to a Te-lead who is actually a professional pedant, and even he wasn't this bad. Come on, dude. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that cultural and linguistic barriers, including my own prejudices, may exacerbate the problem here.

    Since I also know you always want to have the last word, go for it. This is boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    1. Maybe you literally can't ascertain what other people can see coming and think you have to point everything out to them.
    This is my number one pet peeve when working on projects with certain people with very low Ni - they always point out the obvious, offer solutions that you've already eliminated three days ago and to top it off they're super condescending about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    This is my number one pet peeve when working on projects with certain people with very low Ni - they always point out the obvious, offer solutions that you've already eliminated three days ago and to top it off they're super condescending about it.
    but but they are planning, reviewing, organizing and ordering the next steps in the process to what they will do or needs to get done

    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post
    Mom - ESTj
    Dad - ENTj

    Both of my parents are very masculine "go-getting" people. Both are extreme workaholics as well.

    Me - INFp (I would consider myself quite meek and feminine) .. Funny how that worked out, huh.
    you are very beautiful. How does that relationship work out? I can't see an ESTj with an ENTj although Russian literatures in socionics have written about it
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post
    Both of my parents are very masculine "go-getting" people. Both are extreme workaholics as well. Me - INFp (I would consider myself quite meek and feminine) .. Funny how that worked out, huh.
    Yep. Some still overrate the role of parents personality in creating children's one.
    I know a family with both parents N-F beta and the child ESTJ. This probably costed to the child a little neurotization, and one of reasons for early marriage said by her was "to run away from home".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post
    Both the ENTj and ESTj generally in Socionics are stereotyped as leaders and entrepreneurs. With two being in a relationship, there could only be ONE leader.
    The leadership in the sense of general power is the play of Se valued types only. ENTJ, having Se as secondary and weak function would not be too assertive in this. ESTJ just do what must and don't care about power as a value at all. So in relations of ENTJ-ESTJ can be often discussions and argue, - the reason is sharing by useful data and finding best solutions (Te region), but not competition for general leadership. Real conflicts are expected in Ni and Si regions, not Se one.

    There was a power struggle between the two and that gnawed away at the relationship.
    The main problem of similar types is the lack of support of weak functions. Such relations are closer to colleagues doing the same work, while for marriage is needed friendship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    The leadership in the sense of general power is the play of Se valued types only. ENTJ, having Se as secondary and weak function would not be too assertive in this. ESTJ just do what must and don't care about power as a value at all. So in relations of ENTJ-ESTJ can be often discussions and argue, - the reason is sharing by useful data and finding best solutions (Te region), but not competition for general leadership. Real conflicts are expected in Ni and Si regions, not Se one.



    The main problem of similar types is the lack of support of weak functions. Such relations are closer to colleagues doing the same work, while for marriage is needed friendship.
    she is saying this from her perspective where you see the "Se". maybe they where two hard working people who didn't get along

    She stated key problems which were both were extroverts and worked tremendous hours without suggesting enjoyment and relaxing time.

    Her father didn't act like a friend more like an enterpriser who's focus was to generate money and sustain businesses

    -just helping you see it differently other side
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post
    Now that you mention it, I don't believe the two perceived it as a power struggle as much as I did. At least it's how I interpreted my parent's situation.

    Anyways, I feel that ENTj fits my Father well. He is future thinking, always emphasizing to me the importance of my future and to learn from the mistakes of my past. The man cannot relax or stay still for even a minute, which is why he is a heavy chain smoker. If anything could be the epitome of si-polr, it is my Father. He does not understand the concept of just relaxing. "Time is money" - That's what he'd always tell me. And oh yeah, going to the doctor's? Nope, no way. My father had no concept of that. He would wheeze and cough to death, being such a heavy smoker. Going to the Doctor's, though? Nah, that was just a waste of time and effort. He held no value to his health, he'd rather spend the time focusing on work. It still amazes me.

    My Mother (ESTj) is more health conscious. She rarely eats, but she is a great and innovative chef. She visits the Doctor's regularly. She could be considered anorexic, though. The woman barely eats. She can barely ever relax too, but not to the extent of my Father. Both are extremely extroverted and active people.

    I sometimes wonder if this is why I struggled to understand my type. I always felt so alien and helpless compared to my parents. Both were extreme control freaks who would control every aspect of my life. My Mother is that type of Mother who tries to handle all of my finances/planning in my life (Controlling Ej temperament). My Father sacrifices his time to work to raise as much money for my family to express his love.

    I have picked up habits from the both of them though. I tend to work as much as I can, I have a need for control and planning, I have difficulties relaxing (Because of how looked down upon it was in my household), and although I have a great love for food, if I am too focused on work, I'll survive on 4 hours of sleep, vitamins, and water only. I don't know if it's engrained in me or if it was a learned behaviour, maybe both. That is why I never understood my type, as now I'm away from my parents, I'm learning that without having them around to control me, I am a pretty controlling person myself.
    It would be difficult to be raised by a Conflictor and a Supervisor. You have my sympathies.

    I can see why your parents fought. My own mother is ESTJ, and I have a really hard time being around her. She was always "Do what I said or GTFO". No explanations, and no questioning her allowed, Basically, Hell on Earth. The only "'good" part was that the family ran smoothly as long as she got her way in everything. That meant, never criticize her in the slightest, and never question her actions, even when she was hitting you in the face.

    I still have a hard time working with ESTJ's. I can appreciate their talent for perfecting things, but I will never allow another one to dictate any part of my life again.

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    @Sol, you can add "Adam Strange (LIE), LSE mother, SLI father" to your list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink View Post
    Your mother and my mother are so similar in that aspect. They are never wrong. Their way, or the highway. ESTj mom would also cut off everyone in conversation, nothing was more important than the valuable input that she could give in conversation. Anyways, again, the similarities are pretty eerie.
    Well, quite frankly, your description of your ENTJ father fits me pretty well. With two exceptions. I've never smoked tobacco (other than about ten cigarettes, which I liked very much. I drink coffee instead) and I am not controlling. I saw controlling when I was growing up, and I swore never to do it to others.

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    Only very recently have I interacted with my birth father with this being mostly online and through 2 briefs trips to one another's home cities in different states.
    He was happy enough to do a Socionics test and his result was ENFj though after meeting him last time I highly doubt this is his actual type, it is more a case that he is in need of high Fe from another.

    My stepfather was a lovely man who I am quite sure was ISFp.

    My mother's type was suggested by some on the forum as ENFj or INFp. She resides in another country in a very rural part of the land and I rarely get the chance to see her with the previous visit being around 15 years ago. I also haven't seen much of her since I was around the age of 16 so I am not locking in a type for her as yet.

    As for myself yes SEE (ESFp) is currently written under my avatar but will change as it is just there currently as a gimmick. Expect it to regularly change as I kind of give up with what my actual type is, though it is likely to include an N with an I over E. My Se is a weak function. Those who know me place it in 4th, 5th or 3rd place.

    *Update

    Mother in another country - EXFP with ENFp more likely, Father in another state with only recent relations - ESTp and stepfather passed away is perhaps - ISTp.
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    Haven't been added yet, either.

    My father is LSE (ESTJ), my mother is ESE (ESFJ).
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