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    @Sandoval, by "pinched" nose, do u mean it seems like they are scrunching up their nose a little?
    Yeah, it's like the muscles which go vertically up past the nose are in a constant state of micro-contraction. These:



    I looked into it and found that those muscles are associated with strong emotions, usually grief or used when deeply weeping. To use a metaphor, it's the ones you contract when you're on the edge of tears and holding back. It was odd to me that I found some people constantly contract these unconsciously.

    It's well know that smirks/grimmaces that raise up the side of one nostril are associated with 'contempt', smugness or moral superiority. I wondered if Fi could cause signals of contempt and (due to how it's a very private ethical process) whether it could cause a lot of these signals. Sure enough, nearly all the Fi users I've known (who have very private beliefs, opinions and stand by them) do this sort of "micro-snarling" ...or that's how I call it. It looks something like this (each of these frames can be just a few miliseconds apart):




    Their upper lip is prone to rise up toward their nose at unexpected times. There's far less coordination of the mouth than with Fe. It seems like all the muscles around the nose, which go vertically, are continually contracting.

    Here's a real-life example of it with Canada's young and successful TeSi prime minister:







    Asymmetrical snarling + pinched nose area


    (wow this post turned out long, sorry. i hope this helps answer the question!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandoval View Post
    Yeah, it's like the muscles which go vertically up past the nose are in a constant state of micro-contraction. These:



    I looked into it and found that those muscles are associated with strong emotions, usually grief or used when deeply weeping. To use a metaphor, it's the ones you contract when you're on the edge of tears and holding back. It was odd to me that I found some people constantly contract these unconsciously.

    It's well know that smirks/grimmaces that raise up the side of one nostril are associated with 'contempt', smugness or moral superiority. I wondered if Fi could cause signals of contempt and (due to how it's a very private ethical process) whether it could cause a lot of these signals. Sure enough, nearly all the Fi users I've known (who have very private beliefs, opinions and stand by them) do this sort of "micro-snarling" ...or that's how I call it. It looks something like this (each of these frames can be just a few miliseconds apart):




    Their upper lip is prone to rise up toward their nose at unexpected times. There's far less coordination of the mouth than with Fe. It seems like all the muscles around the nose, which go vertically, are continually contracting.

    Here's a real-life example of it with Canada's young and successful TeSi prime minister:







    Asymmetrical snarling + pinched nose area


    (wow this post turned out long, sorry. i hope this helps answer the question!)
    dont be sorry, this was great! and i was curious about the anatomy as well, so thanks for the diagram!

    I have indeed noticed that a subset of people have that scrunchy nose look at all times. I sometimes scrunch up my nose, like if i want to make that kind of laugh, or to show disgust on occasion but my default is not that.
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