SLI-IEE conversations from irl (ENFp and ISTp)
Self-explanatory title
First example:
SLI - How was your poop this morning?
IEE - Fine
SLI - Did you linger and enjoy it?
IEE - No...I got it over with and moved on
SLI - "Got it over with"? It's not a chore! It's something to be enjoyed, savored even.
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
Lmao
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
? - Have you ever slept w a virgin?
SLI - No
? - Have you ever wanted to or not to, or does it not matter either way?
SLI - I don't want to be w a virgin.
? - Why not?
SLI - Because she might get clingy. And because then she would think everyone was as good in bed as me, and for the rest of her life sex would be a disappointment.
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
Let me guess: the SLI in this story was male, and the IEE female?Originally Posted by sapphire
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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Texting w husband:
IEE - The doctor did a pregnancy test and it was positive, but then they did more which were negative. I took a blood test, and we'll know the result tomorrow, but I took one at home and it was negative. And I don't feel pregnant, even like at the beginning, whereas before I definitely did. So I'm almost certainly not pregnant, but there is a tiny chance. But most likely not. Just fyi, so now you know.
SLI - K
Our interactions sometimes crack me up bc I ramble when I'm nervous, whereas he...doesn't seem to get nervous
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
ahahahahah
So SLI to listen listen listen then just be there for someone they love.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Exactly
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
SLI (drunk): I am sorry I sort of shoved you out the door yesterday morning.
IEE (equally drunk): Oh, I figured you had to get to work.
SLI: No, I had to poop. We just weren't there yet, you know? I couldn't poop while you are outside waiting for me. I couldn't do it. We weren't there yet.
IEE (utterly charmed): So happy we are there now. You can poop whenever you want. I will wait for you.
SLI: Yeah, we are totally there now.
Both dissolve into giggles.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
SLI (drunk): I am sorry I sort of shoved you out the door yesterday morning.
IEE (equally drunk): Oh, I figured you had to get to work.
SLI: No, I had to poop. We just weren't there yet, you know? I couldn't poop while you are outside waiting for me. I couldn't do it. We weren't there yet.
IEE (utterly charmed): So happy we are there now. You can poop whenever you want. I will wait for you.
SLI: Yeah, we are totally there now.
Both dissolve into giggles.
It was so freaking adorable OMG BE STILL MY HEART!
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
I loved it
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
What is with SLI and pooping issues lolSLI (drunk): I am sorry I sort of shoved you out the door yesterday morning.
IEE (equally drunk): Oh, I figured you had to get to work.
SLI: No, I had to poop. We just weren't there yet, you know? I couldn't poop while you are outside waiting for me. I couldn't do it. We weren't there yet.
IEE (utterly charmed): So happy we are there now. You can poop whenever you want. I will wait for you.
SLI: Yeah, we are totally there now.
Both dissolve into giggles.
ok, so an IEE brings some food to me. However, he decides to take a bite out of it before giving it to me. The SLI glares at him and says "you eat it and then you give it to him?" (This actually involves someas well as
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edit: I think now this is really FiSe rather than Ti
Last edited by Exodus; 10-18-2016 at 06:30 PM.
ok, so an IEE brings some food to me. However, he decides to take a bite out of it before giving it to me. The SLI glares at him and says "you eat it and then you give it to him?" (This actually involves some
This thread gives me all the warms and fuzzies.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
What is it with you people and poop! [/unamused Si-PoLR]
Reason is a whore.
SLI - What's wrong?
IEE - I dunno. I'm just in a pissy mood.
SLI - Here -- have some of this [cinnamon toast]
IEE - No, thanks.
SLI - Okay.
IEE - Okay, I'll have some [reaches for toast]
SLI - No, not like that. Eat it upside-down, so the good part gets right on your tongue.
IEE - [bites toast upside-down] Like this?
SLI - Yeah. Wasn't that good? You feel better now?
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
Along these lines:
SLI: I am home now, come over!
IEE: I don't know if I want to I am annoyed with you.
SLI: I am pouring you a beer right now.
IEE: Ok, but I am really slightly pissed off....
SLI: Duck eggs for breakfast, *insertnickname*?
IEE: Over in five!
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“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Lmao
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
That's a convo straight from a nightmare (no offense
Lol, this is what I suggest my husband and kids do too, to eat some things upside down as they can taste better!
Just mention them of having constipation issues and you'll have lifetime of supply
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and some dietary stuff.
Learned the hard way... literally.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
idiosyncratic type
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None takenThat's a convo straight from a nightmare (no offense
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
Not true for the LIE half of XIE's. The convos are a little strange, but not nightmarish to me. I've done that toast thing myself. The rest of the convos are foreign territory, though.None taken
I actually find that IEE's are fun to be around, super practical, and very easy to approach and talk to. Basically, I like all the IEE's I've met irl. The females, anyway. I'm not sure I know any male IEE's.
However, even though I find them easy to approach, I also know that the best distance to stop that approach is just about at arm's length.
Why???? I find it so endearingThat's a convo straight from a nightmare (no offense
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
For Mothers Day, besides my hint for about how much I like roses, I asked my husband to go all day long without a single or even slightest reference or even acknowledgement of poop or farts.And he did okay! So I am going to ask for this every special occasion... Oh, and maybe every Sunday. Yeah, and maybe every Friday, too!
(But I better do this by degrees)...
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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Daily SLI IEE married life:
IEE: loooooove me! *approaches with extended arms*
SLI: executing evasive maneuvers! *spins away, stubs toe on table* owwww!!
IEE: ha ha!
SLI: rub my toe. *raises foot* rubbbb it.
IEE: Executing evasive maneuvers! *high fives foot and spins away*
And if God cares so wonderfully for flowers that are here today and gone tomorrow, won't he more surely care for you?- Matthew 6:30
lol
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
I baked a cake for my mom, whose last day before retirement was today. We are currently hanging out and waiting for her to arrive.
SLI - When is your mom going to get here? I thought you said 7.
IEE - I don't know. She's out celebrating with her friends.
SLI - I'm gonna eat that damn cake.
IEE - Don't eat the cake. She'll get here when she gets here.
SLI - [becoming genuinely agitated] Honey, I didn't eat barbecue or Arby's or chicken because I was saving room for cake. I want to eat some cake already.
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
SLI gettn "hangery" - angry, hungry.
SLI: I never thought I would be dating a "insert university name here" professor.
IEE: I just don't want to be a gimmick.
SLI: You are not a gimmick. I made you food.
IEE: At midnight with half a toe.
SLI: Yeah, exactly.
IEE: You don't talk romantic, eh?
SLI: No. I make you dinner.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
My SLI husband can display annoyance when expected mealtime is extra delayed. He is patient to a point, then the annoyance comes out.
But unlike with my ex, his annoyance never frightens me.. and when either of us get annoyed, its never deep and does not last, though, we will express it, like when we are arguing over design... And i really value that we both feel totally free to freely express our thoughts at any time. Its great.
My son was here last week and one day he asked me if everything was okay and I said yes, surprised, and asked why... it was because of door-slamming, LOL. My husband and I were both upstairs after Mass changing and putting things away and because I don't yet have full confidence my cat has overcome his bad habits we keep the 2nd floor doors closed. I hate that, but not as much as I hate cleaning cat poop. Actually, my husband picks that up. But I sure don't like finding it. So I banned my cat from the upstairs rooms this winter, though I have allowed him into one this spring and he's been good so far. The rest of the doors get shut, including the bathroom. The doors are old, and with weather changes they don't always close properly, so we have resorted to the bad habit of slamming them shut (rather than what we do at night, slowly and carefully pressing the doors into place). And my son hasn't spent that much time with us, with being away for the first year (of my two-year old marriage) on a gap year, and this year college and jobs, so he doesn't know how we are... and so he wondered if the big slamming boded some big problem.. LOL it did not occur to me how uncivilized this door slamming sounds. I assured him that SLI and I are pretty much always mellow - we don't get mad.
And that's pretty much true but as I have said elsewhere we have argued over design (my husband is remodeling a room plus some other stuff). We can get a bit loud, but that's a very short duration. When the discussion ends the irritation is over - solved and forgotten. My husband
is just naturally loud when he is exclaiming, and me because I get frustrated if I am not feeling heard - I then complain loudly about that and then I get heard. And we never throw things or hit things or slam things in anger. I will stamp my foot or wring my hands for emphasis, that's about all. But SLI has never acted out of anger and neither have I and that's nicely compatible.
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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.
.
IEE - There seems to be a bird in the laundry room.
SLI - [calmly, flatly] A bird in the laundry room?
IEE - In the metal spring thing coming out of the dryer
SLI - Well, turn on the dryer and he'll leave.
IEE - No. He might have been in there since yesterday, so maybe he's stuck. And I don't want to kill him.
SLI - Well, turn it on w no heat.
[I went and did this....]
SLI - So, did it work?
IEE - I don't know. He was still in there, and he moved and scared me so I screamed, but I immediately heard a bird squawking outside, so maybe he flew out. I can't tell if he's still there or not.
SLI - Well, let's just leave the dryer running, and if he is in there he won't like that air blowing on him. He'll be uncomfortable, and he'll leave. Problem solved.
This struck me as such an Si way to handle it
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
Yes, its a Si way, and its tells of also SLI efficiency (not expending any more energy than necessary for a task). However, I guess I act more helpless when it comes to critter problems... I call for help for a critter large or small, and Dh helps. Its usually a spider and recently a giant bumblebee that would not leave me alone on the roof deck. I love that he helps me with these things.IEE - There seems to be a bird in the laundry room.
SLI - [calmly, flatly] A bird in the laundry room?
IEE - In the metal spring thing coming out of the dryer
SLI - Well, turn on the dryer and he'll leave.
IEE - No. He might have been in there since yesterday, so maybe he's stuck. And I don't want to kill him.
SLI - Well, turn it on w no heat.
[I went and did this....]
SLI - So, did it work?
IEE - I don't know. He was still in there, and he moved and scared me so I screamed, but I immediately heard a bird squawking outside, so maybe he flew out. I can't tell if he's still there or not.
SLI - Well, let's just leave the dryer running, and if he is in there he won't like that air blowing on him. He'll be uncomfortable, and he'll leave. Problem solved.
This struck me as such an Si way to handle it
I was debating if this is because we are a different generation, but no, we do not stick to traditional roles really. We both do the things we think we are better at or prefer to take on. And for him, a lot of the time, he feels that's the things I don't like doing...
I have only been married two years and this whole thing is completely new to me, and it is still an amazing contrast to my previous marriage. We had strictly defined roles (which I have some responsibility for accepting, but this also includes wanting to keep peace) which meant I did ALL the cooking, shopping, laundry, cleaning, dishes, preparing for company - ALL of it, ALL of the time, plus I worked full-time either in my professional career and later mothering. It amazes me now to think that all those years I lived that suffocating life that a great deal of the people in my life - friends, colleagues, neighbors, church family - were all living this much easier, much saner life - like the life that I live now. And I had no idea at the time how completely different it was for them. I just thought at the time that grown-up life was just a hard road to hoe, for everybody...
(On the other hand, at I am grateful now to be aware that some people are suffering in their domestic situations, for reasons like the ones I had, and also for much more difficult things. There are many kinds of abuse besides the kind I suffered. Also some wives suffer from their husband's addictions, including porn addictions, and I was spared that... And it all makes me feel I should be doing something more with my life, since I have this wonderful everyday advantage of life with a good husband).
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
.
.
.
You're right about expending as little effort as possible, lolYes, its a Si way, and its tells of also SLI efficiency (not expending any more energy than necessary for a task). However, I guess I act more helpless when it comes to critter problems... I call for help for a critter large or small, and Dh helps. Its usually a spider and recently a giant bumblebee that would not leave me alone on the roof deck. I love that he helps me with these things.
I was debating if this is because we are a different generation, but no, we do not stick to traditional roles really. We both do the things we think we are better at or prefer to take on. And for him, a lot of the time, he feels that's the things I don't like doing...
I have only been married two years and this whole thing is completely new to me, and it is still an amazing contrast to my previous marriage. We had strictly defined roles (which I have some responsibility for accepting, but this also includes wanting to keep peace) which meant I did ALL the cooking, shopping, laundry, cleaning, dishes, preparing for company - ALL of it, ALL of the time, plus I worked full-time either in my professional career and later mothering. It amazes me now to think that all those years I lived that suffocating life that a great deal of the people in my life - friends, colleagues, neighbors, church family - were all living this much easier, much saner life - like the life that I live now. And I had no idea at the time how completely different it was for them. I just thought at the time that grown-up life was just a hard road to hoe, for everybody...
(On the other hand, at I am grateful now to be aware that some people are suffering in their domestic situations, for reasons like the ones I had, and also for much more difficult things. There are many kinds of abuse besides the kind I suffered. Also some wives suffer from their husband's addictions, including porn addictions, and I was spared that... And it all makes me feel I should be doing something more with my life, since I have this wonderful everyday advantage of life with a good husband).
I shortened theconversation for the sake of not boring people reading, but there was more to it. I wanted him to tend to the bird, but he was indisposed at the moment. He is usually the one to take care of such things, I'm happy to say, which is why I originally went and told him.
And, I understand where you're coming from wrt living a happy, sane life after living a harder one w lots of relational difficulties. My dad is an unhealthy SLE, and life w him (seeing him as a husband, living w him as a father) was very, very different than life w my husband. <3 Good for you for moving beyond that, @Eliza Thomason
Last edited by SongOfSapphire; 05-28-2016 at 05:58 PM.
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
I like seeing this friendly interaction
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I like seeing this friendly interaction
editing to add: I like a friendly conversation with any type, and I like knowing types, as it gives me a boost for monitoring and adjusting conversation to talking about things in a way a person feels most comfortable conversing...
Maritsa, i just had a long talk - like SEVERAL hours) on the phone with my dearest EII freind, who is back where I used to live, and I miss her. I rarely chat on the phone but since I can't go see her we have these occasional practically day-long phone visits... and she is between semesters so she can now. And often I listen more than talk, and, unplanned, I told her about my flat earth explorations... and it was the first time I ever shared this with anyone except here on that thread, and of course with my husband... I so respect her for how she took in the info. She does not close her mind.. she has a real ear for truth... anyway I think she will be exploring for herself since her summer class is not so demanding ... I am going to send her some links..
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
.
.
.
SLI [pointing to bruise on IEE's knee] - Where'd that come from?
IEE - I don't know. I probably walked into something.
SLI - You don't even remember?
[a moment passes]
SLI [chuckling] - I like a little clumsiness in a woman.
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
These are all mega adorable.
IEE: Observe my beautiful work of art
IEE: [Picture of giant, veiny eggplant emoji; reminiscent of erect penis]
IEE: I call it "Throbbing"
SLI: Whyyyyyyy
IEE: Critical feedback welcome!
SLI: It's too veiny to be cute
IEE: Eggplants can be beautiful no matter how veiny they are
I guess I'll try to include a few from whatever conversations I can remember having with my wife.
Making something my SLI's mother really enjoyed when I prepared a pot for her:
IEE: Honey, what do you think about my cooking?
SLI: *sipping on a glass of wine* Just lovely dear, absolutely lovely.
IEE: Tell me the truth, do you really like Coq Au Vin?
SLI: *hesitating a bit* Yeah... I've tried variations I really enjoyed before. It's something my mom would looooove though; she loves rustic dishes.
IEE: Hee, hee, hee... want to know what I got the recipe from?
SLI: Where?
IEE: From the PC game Deus Ex the part where you have to explore a French Manor! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
SLI: *setting her glass down and slapping the table a few times* Hehehehehehohohohahahahahahee hee hee!!! Sorry, I don't know if that's me or the wine talking.
IEE: Don't worry, I'm the same way when I've been drinking.
SLI: That's a relief. *sighs and continues to sip on her wine*
IEE Ne Creative Type
Someand role lovin too. (
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