Me
Alright, one more time.
Problem with being INFJ:
I'm not as conservative and for all of my fear of the physical world, I like s.e.x. And I'm morethan the usual. And I'm more goofy and fond of playing. Quite fond of ESTPs deep inside.
Problem with being INFP:
I'm not against rational thinking and planning (sometimes, not always but sometimes.)
My best friend is def. ESFJ but I don't feel like her supervisee, it feels like she's my superior more, my relation to her as an INFJ is more accurate.
INFP
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No. She's def. J.
INFP
Re: Me
Originally Posted by dreamer
Alright, one more time.
Problem with being INFJ:
I'm not as conservative and for all of my fear of the physical world, I like s.e.x. And I'm more
Not all INFjs have something against sex
Fuck
If Ijs aren't suppposed to like sex, then I'm not INTj at all. But I am.
As someone told me........and from personal experience, INFjs just like bad boys in general, as far as being attracted to them. They don't mind virility. But they like structure and order.
How do your relaitonships generally develop? Do you need to get close, and then step back, and the get close again? etc etc?
Or do you just like a long straight linear development?
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Based on our shortish contacts in chat I would very unreliably say INFj. Although your late forum posts distort that image a bit.
However here is a short test. When you raise a finger are you more likely to do it with your...
Index Finger
Or Middle Finger
Index Finger -> INFj
Middle Finger -> INFp
Liking ESTps means nothing. I like ESTps too. Could you live with one in a romantic relationship is a better question. If you have any rationality or controlling nature you will FAIL (ask FDG). And what is your take on other Beta types (ENFj, ISTj) and Delta types (ENFp,
ISTp)?
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I mean middle finger. Raising the index finger makes me feel unbalanced.
I think I prefer a line relationship except with my past ones, it's most close, get back, close but that could be something about my insecurity and not type.
Well...the difference is talking opening about sex...right? That I'm not opposed to. I enjoy sexual jokes.
INFP
I think this is a good time to remind that Bionicgoat who apparently is an INFj left this forum because of the new rules which don't allow random k-18 stuff to be discussed or adult entertainment to be posted freely here. I remember him calling himself a "pervert" too. So these things are quite individual. I wouldn't use this kind of stereotypes when typing.
However I would think INFps approach relationships more from purely emotional point of view ("If it feels good, it is good.") where INFjs would ponder ethical questions more ("If I have sex with a random stranger is it ethical? Should I perhaps not do it even if both of us are basically emotionally and physically willing?").
Hahahaha so trueBased on our shortish contacts in chat I would very unreliably say INFj. Although your late forum posts distort that image a bit.
However here is a short test. When you raise a finger are you more likely to do it with your...
Index Finger
Or Middle Finger
Index Finger -> INFj
Middle Finger -> INFp
Liking ESTps means nothing. I like ESTps too. Could you live with one in a romantic relationship is a better question. If you have any rationality or controlling nature you will FAIL (ask FDG
ISTp)?
All Hail The Flying Spaghetti Monster
I am scandalised by the finger thing
On the topic, though, I have a very irrational fear of masturbation, and to some extent, sex. It feels like a violation/betrayal of the self. I'm afraid of losing control of myself to my body like that. But if I love the person, I wouldn't mind the sacrifice.
Are you afraid you'd like it too much, and get addicted?I'm afraid of losing control of myself to my body like that
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Exactly. I avoid drugs, cigarettes, alcohol and whatnot for the same reason. I identify very much with Kant's take on the matter: "The ground of proof surely lies in the fact that a man gives up his personality (throws it away) when he uses himself merely as a means for the gratification of an animal drive"
While there's still room for doubt... Yes, it would seem so. At least, I am not INFp.
Interesting.
I'm not opposed to drinking/masturbating/smoking but opposed to drugs.
INFP
are you Japanese?I am scandalised by the finger thing
On the topic, though, I have a very irrational fear of masturbation, and to some extent, sex. It feels like a violation/betrayal of the self. I'm afraid of losing control of myself to my body like that. But if I love the person, I wouldn't mind the sacrifice.
IJs don't have anything against sex btw... good friggin grief... I've been with more than a few... just trust me on this one.
*edited to add punctuation
Exactly. I avoid drugs, cigarettes, alcohol and whatnot for the same reason. I identify very much with Kant's take on the matter: "The ground of proof surely lies in the fact that a man gives up his personality (throws it away) when he uses himself merely as a means for the gratification of an animal drive"
Hmm, I know what you mean. That's how I feel about a lot of things, but I'm certain that I can manage my self sexually. THe only problem I had is that if someone was very open to my sexuality... as in, they wouldn't mind my advances, even if they were a lot. Someone approaching me relentlessly would be kind of turnoffish -- that's why I don't like ESFps, because they are too slutty (to me). But I suppose I'm not that much different. I just believe in monogamy. And believe it or not, I like seducing, even though I'm INTj. But it has to be the right kind of person that I can feel comfortable with. If I had the right kind of chemistry with a person, I'd be aggressive witht them. I actually enjoy being aggressive, but it just takes me time to get to know the person. Some people I click more easy with than others, of course.
I know this is kind of odd, and definitely not socionics, but it makes sense to me: I'm a Taurus. Reserved, and slightly possessive, but a certain lust for beauty.
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If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Japanese? http://www.fs.thewafflehouse.net/?p=16are you JapaneseI am scandalised by the finger thing
On the topic, though, I have a very irrational fear of masturbation, and to some extent, sex. It feels like a violation/betrayal of the self. I'm afraid of losing control of myself to my body like that. But if I love the person, I wouldn't mind the sacrifice.
IJs don't have anything against sex btw... good friggin grief... I've been with more than a few... just trust me on this one.
No, Taiwanese
But I trust you on that.
Joy knows the truthIJs don't have anything against sex btw... good friggin grief... I've been with more than a few... just trust me on this one.
Same here, but I don't drink/smoke, myself.Interesting.
I'm not opposed to drinking/masturbating/smoking but opposed to drugs.
I'd guess I'd have a hard time being with a smoker, too -- I hate the smell.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I think the culture sorta shames sexuality somehow... I dunno, I'm not familiar enough to really speak intelligently on the matter.
Hmm. I always thought of you as an INFj, just something i notice in the way you write. I could be wrong however as i could just be seeing "what i expect to see"
My INFj friend(Guy) does complain about having a low labido but he attributes this to Anit-Depressants. He seems to like sex just fine but he did always say it doesn't interest him as much as the emotional side of it.
Irrational fear of masturbation? You get over that very fast as a male. I happily have a bat any time i choose :wink:
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Hmm, well I thought that a long time ago, for a male to masterbait would be considred a huge waste. BUt at the same time, there's manga and hentai and so much more. I don't know about it, either, though, and don't want to sound like I do.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
Interesting quote. So much for the argument that masturbation promotes a sense of self-worth
@ meatburger: Well, I've been playing around with the Reinin dichotomies chart, and INFj won out (18). As I spend time reading around the forum, it makes more and more sense. But funnily enough, quite a number of my friends and acquaintances are turning out to be from Alpha...
Oh and, I almost forgot. I myself admire ESTps -- but only from a distance.
mastubation is okay, so long as you don't end up depressing yourself afterwards. But being able to enjoy pleasing yourself for the sake of personal pleasure, or perhaps you're just really turned on for some reason, that's not something to get your panties bunched over.
But don't go ESFp and start telling people about it on AIM just because you feel an urge coming on
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
lol @ Kant's mental masturbation. Noone should really take seriously a man that has spent his whole life walking up and down the same street and writing overcomplicated treatises over nothing.Exactly. I avoid drugs, cigarettes, alcohol and whatnot for the same reason. I identify very much with Kant's take on the matter: "The ground of proof surely lies in the fact that a man gives up his personality (throws it away) when he uses himself merely as a means for the gratification of an animal drive"
Besides, my take is on INFp.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
It was just a passing thought. I remembered dreamer "raising a finger" in chat during one conversation she sort of disagreed with. But it was not clear to me which finger it was
Or something
At the same time? That is talent! *bows*
?? o_OAt the same time? That is talent! *bows*
Dont be jealous. Some day you will be able to drink/masturbate/smoke simutaneously, too! It may take some practice.?? o_OAt the same time? That is talent! *bows*
Oh you meant that. That sounds like business as usual. Well I don't smoke though. I thought you meant it is a talent to being opposed to drugs and at the same time not being opposed to drinking/masturbating/smoking. As in there is no conceptual or ethical difference there only technical.Dont be jealous. Some day you will be able to drink/masturbate/smoke simutaneously, too! It may take some practice.?? o_OAt the same time? That is talent! *bows*
LMAO. Sexual jokes cheers me up so much.At the same time? That is talent! *bows*
Yea. I'd say my middle finger. I hardy every raise my index finger, it feels weird like *tries to point* I feel unbalanced, odd, very odd.
Who are the four who said INFJ? Why? How so?
I'm not switching back in a few months. Let's get this done.
INFP
I can't even raise my middle finger...
INFjs I know like sexual jokes.....
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
I voted INFj based on your chat behavior. Though I have seen you there maybe twice so pretty small sample. You just give different vibe from many INFps here like aurora and sneg. And you have talked about putting leash on your partners which would drive any ESTp away immediately. Other than that I have no case.
She seems to respond positively to Se
I put INFj, I can just tell.
Uh oh...
XOX - that's personality
Aurora -> how so?
INFP
Re: Me
What you need to understand, dreamer, is that this forum lives in the dark ages. Consider the possibility of INFx.Alright, one more time.
Problem with being INFJ:
I'm not as conservative and for all of my fear of the physical world, I like s.e.x. And I'm more
Problem with being INFP:
I'm not against rational thinking and planning (sometimes, not always but sometimes.)
My best friend is def. ESFJ but I don't feel like her supervisee, it feels like she's my superior more, my relation to her as an INFJ is more accurate.
Do you favor preparation over either consideration of action or interaction? People who concentrate on preparedness think in terms of "being ready" to do something, easily seeing the character patterns in other people's daily activities and emotional responses.
Tell me, do you find a deep sense of understanding and reflection in the work of Bethooven? For INFJs and INFPs, Bethooven is nearly impenetrable. But for an INFx he should be native territory. INFxs enjoy creating profound emotional feeling in others.
Consider this draft profile I've written for INFx.
INFx - The Composer
Analytic Cycle:
Observation of the possibilities afforded by readiness states for
internal emotive action
Thought Cycle:
"Given this state of internal readiness, the internal emotive
possibilities are thus...."
Psychocycle:
The Composer lives a life of sustained emotional calculus. Introverted
feeling compares the potential quantities generated by introverted intuition
and pursues the most gratifying observed potentials. The Composer knows
the potential of his feelings as few others do even of their own, carefully
examining the emotional potentials afforded by observed states of internal
readiness. This appraisal allows the Composer an accute sense of others'
internal potential. The Composer can anticipate feelings before they
are felt, and may phrase his actions to acheive a desired emotional effect.
The Composer easily pushes the boundaries of emotional readiness in his
society, conjuring in his work states of emotion that may seem deeply
profound and inexplicable to his audience. The human condition is his
palette and society is his canvas; he plums the inner depths of the
subjective experience and releases it into the world, thereby allowing
him the benefit of new internal emotional readiness states to study
and compell.
Unfortunately for the Composer not everyone may appreciate the dearth
of emotions he may conjure. In particular the opposing line may be
particularly disquieted, faced anew with its deepest, darkest fears and
long sealed pains, not only resurrected but even endowed by the breath
of social immortality. Not one to allow his enemies an easy target,
the Composer is a difficult figure to corner, a source of controversy
not easily portrayed as a social menace. But controversy has perils of
its own, and the Composer, first an agent of the objective context
and a consumate responder to the emotional impulses of others, may
find the case for his own needs a difficult argument to make.
Well that would suggest INFp yes. I still don't know. She is getting more INFpish all the time though
If that is so, what about the relations? And functions? WHO's MY SOUL MATE?What you need to understand, dreamer, is that this forum lives in the dark ages. Consider the possibility of INFx.
See. That is quite INFP of me. I know when I act either INFP or INFJ. When I'm really reserved and calm, I'm INFJ. It's just that when I get comfortable with people, I get really goofy. If I feel like the person would play with me back, I'd play too. But I guess everyone thought I was INFJ at first 'cause I took my time studying my surroundings to see if I'd be comfortable playing.
SO NOW I AM.
I'm not against some preparation but like, I wanted to go on a trip with my ESFJ friend to another state to visit a college but she planned everything to the hour so I was like, never mind, no excitement left, blah blah. I like to know and be prepared but I also like surprises and mysteries (if they're good.) And for all my need to be prepared, I'm not great at it. Something always goes wrong.Do you favor preparation over either consideration of action or interaction? People who concentrate on preparedness think in terms of "being ready" to do something, easily seeing the character patterns in other people's daily activities and emotional responses.
INFP
Hmm, an INFj I know is very much into haveing structure and a plan.
But another one I know, more likely ansubtype, is very easy going, and one of the sweetest, calmsest, most down to earth and playful persons you'll come across. She likes to play, but has her values. She likes virility in men, and doesn't mind being feminine. I could see her being 'attracted' to an ESTp type, but she'd know enough not to really get involved with them. The bad boy/virility type is appealing, because it contrasts her yielding feminine side -- she enjoys being feminine.
How many people can you be in a relationship (on an emotional level) at once? Do you ever linger a lot? Do you enjoy such lingering? Do you enjoy (though perhaps passive aggressively) the drama that such situations create, of indecision and wonder? Or do you prefer firm decisions to be made so that you get out of those situations, the sooner the better?
I know that's slightly tainted or biased, but it's the best representation I could generate at this second.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
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