View Poll Results: Arnold Schwarzenegger's type?

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  • ILE (ENTp)

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  • SEI (ISFp)

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  • ESE (ESFj)

    0 0%
  • LII (INTj)

    1 3.33%
  • SLE (ESTp)

    1 3.33%
  • IEI (INFp)

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  • EIE (ENFj)

    0 0%
  • LSI (ISTj)

    3 10.00%
  • SEE (ESFp)

    1 3.33%
  • ILI (INTp)

    0 0%
  • LIE (ENTj)

    6 20.00%
  • ESI (ISFj)

    1 3.33%
  • IEE (ENFp)

    0 0%
  • SLI (ISTp)

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  • LSE (ESTj)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I personally think that Arnold is LIE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFk-L7Wcg0g His indiscriminate eating habits show that clearly.

    He's probably a very high Te sub-type, with lowered Ni Intuition (like an LSE) and enhanced Se (like an SLE). But neither an SLE nor an LSE would happily eat garbage in a restaurant. I would, though. After all, it's food, right? Si-PoLR.

    I’ve also long thought that I’d like to look like he did in the first Terminator move. The leather jacket, the boots, the bike.... Se-HA.
    You know what pisses me off about Arnold lately is his total hypocrisy where-in he doesn't mention his use of anaboloc steroids all his life, yet goes on this soap box high horse about eating vegetarian and avoiding animal fats and proteins because of a supposed misconception they are not good for getting big and strong, like him. The only reason he got that big, besides the capacity (via genetics), was because he used chemical drugs his whole life and it probably had little to do with his consumption of fruits and vegetables. It was the steroids. That really pisses me off about him.

    Further it pisses me off that he rose to such high political office yet clearly had to lie about his steroid use as its illegal and an indictable offense to even posses. So, in other words, a criminal becomes the Governor, I'm sure he is a great guy dont' get me wrong, I have no moral issue with steroids I think they are fantastic. I have an issue with a man who is a liar getting to be a leader just on principle that bothers me.

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    Arnold is ESE bois (he's like hagrid from Harry Potter), gentle giant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Arnold is ESE bois (he's like hagrid from Harry Potter), gentle giant
    Makes sense tbh



    Nice guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Arnold is ESE bois (he's like hagrid from Harry Potter), gentle giant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    Makes sense tbh

    Nice guy
    Oh, yeah.

    But I have a hard time imagining that ESE's will ask to eat table scraps in their omelets.
    Last edited by Adam Strange; 09-15-2019 at 03:15 PM.

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    ESE lmao, no.

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    Arnold is an SEE, I don't know where LSE came from. Another example of VI gone amuck. Just read a description of the SEE here:

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ile-by-Gulenko

    And watch these videos. Very strong direct Se being used here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ8aqP2NWk8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjOheDX8aLA


    A real LSE bodybuilder is Dorian Yates, very different. He uses much more Te in his speech and not as confrontational.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hggkrZF-Bpw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSHtiIPiToM

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    Clear-cut LSE imo.
    I can't take this anymore
    And I'm almost pretty sure
    I've been here before



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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOutThere View Post
    Arnold is an SEE, I don't know where LSE came from. Another example of VI gone amuck. Just read a description of the SEE here:

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ile-by-Gulenko

    And watch these videos. Very strong direct Se being used here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ8aqP2NWk8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjOheDX8aLA


    A real LSE bodybuilder is Dorian Yates, very different. He uses much more Te in his speech and not as confrontational.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hggkrZF-Bpw

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSHtiIPiToM
    I think assessments like this are blind to the obvious and overcomplicating typings.
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    I'm surprised so many people have suggested LSE, as his focus seems to be clearly on sensing and not on extroverted logic. While LSEs do have strong 4D Se, it is used in the background and is the demonstrative function that is not used in a serious way. Si in LSEs is 3D and only creatively used, to improve the true focus which is efficiency.

    With Schwarzenegger, it's obvious he focuses on sensation above all else. So lead function = sensing. The question is which kind of sensing is preferred: Se or Si?

    Se is about domination, winning, by force of willpower. Si is about sensory perception, as an introverted function, it looks inward (How does the environment impact me?). Se is about sensory projection, and as an extroverted function, it looks outward (How can I impact the environment?). Se seeks to make an impact on the external world. I would say that the very concept of bodybuilding is Se-focused: building up your external self, your body, in a way that shows off strength and dominance.

    Schwarzenegger also talks often about the importance of having a "vision" and using all your willpower to achieve it. These are Beta/Gamma values (Se-Ni). Just one example of this, when asked about bodybuilding:

    "All I know is that the first step is to create a vision, because when you see the vision - the beautiful vision - that creates the want power."

    Se powered by Ni suggestive. His bodybuilding is motivated by his vision what he wanted his body to look like. He wanted to make an external impact, conquer obstacles and achieve his vision - Beta with Se focus.

    Also: "Be hungry for success, hungry to make your mark, hungry to be seen and to be heard and to have an effect."

    And: "For me life is continuously being hungry. The meaning of life is not simply to exist, to survive, but to move ahead, to go up, to achieve, to conquer."

    He wants to make an impact, leave his mark on the world. These are not just one-time quotes, they comprise his entire worldview, and there are many examples of this with him. Se-lead and certainly Beta over Delta.

    Fe-valuing can also clearly be seen in the mobilizing position. He easily blends into the group, jokes around, creates laughs and plays off the audience with a laidback, irrational temperament. He doesn't seem good at generating this himself, but readily joins in when others create emotionally vibrant environments. LSEs to the contrary more often seem stiff and uptight. They are not likely to be lighthearted like this. I do see how an argument for SEE could be possible, but SEEs are very expressive with strong 4D Fe. I don't see that with him. Overall, evidence points to SLE.

    I could write much more about this and provide a lot more evidence and examples, but I don't want to be too long so hopefully this gives somewhat of a brief overview as to why he seems SLE and not LSE. It seems Beta STs and Delta STs get confused with each other often on this forum, and they may have similar areas of interest, but they have completely different values and come across very differently.
    Last edited by LJDL; 07-02-2020 at 12:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Oh, yeah.

    But I have a hard time imagining that ESE's will ask to eat table scraps in their omelets.
    i would. i feel like ppl don't understand class. when you don't have enough you will take anything. you have to fight past that weakness (dependence). no one understands.

    when all you have is to survive, as an animal, as a person, you fight. you fight until they take it away from you. bc you know they are less moral than you. you know only power keeps them from stopping.

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    I like the LIE typing

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    LSE 3w2 so/sp

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    yeah I'm pretty sure he's an LIE-D now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dead account View Post
    yeah I'm pretty sure he's an LIE-D now
    I remember seeing all these LSE typings in the forum several years ago but then I watched "Pumping Iron" and I was like: This is no LSE, this guy is LIE. It just felt very clear to me from seeing him in the film. And D is obvious.
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    I just watched Pumping Iron last night and I think he's SEE.
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