on the comments about Radio: it's interesting that people have commented on their similarities, and that he believes himself and Maritsa to be identicals, i didn't know that. Radio is someone whose type i never felt was "obviously" EII either. i've wondered about other types for him (and didn't he consider Beta NF for himself before?) either way, saying that Maritsa is similar to Radio isn't at all a strong argument for her EII-ness, but it does seem like a useful piece of info.
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I have never seen her come across as ExFx. I've yet to see her focus on any of the stereotypical Fe things either, I've seen no attempts to create an external feeling atmosphere or anything related to that. As for being Obstinate, I don't see that either, just because she has opinions and expresses them and doesn't change them all the time, it doesn't mean she's an Obstinate type. Same issue with Decisive dichotomy.

I really don't like it when people use Reinins in such a superficial way. The concrete trait lists for those dichotomies are worthless. There is no real proof available here that can be directly linked to any of the above Reinins.
i'm not an expert but i understand the Reinins well enough i think, lol. i'm not a newbie to socionics and understand that that there is more to the dichotomies than the general understanding of the names might imply. whether we agree on how useful they are, or how they might manifest, is another issue. i don't use Reinins on their own, they are more useful to me when considering them with other socionics-related observations. IMO sometimes certain Reinin traits are very obvious in some people, other times not.

Maritsa has been a member on this forum for years, so i've observed a lot of her behavior, and that is why i made the comments that i did - i didn't just throw them out there based on some random cursory impressions. call me wishy-washy, but i think that there are good arguments to be made for various types for Maritsa. if you don't agree that anything about her behavior can be attributed to being Fe, Decisive, Obstinate, or whatever, then we'll just have to agree to disagree. i'll just repeat again that i think Maritsa has some NTR personality traits and behaviors that are probably contributing to how people type her. personally, i think if her being EII was so obvious, we wouldn't have such heated debates like this; this is not the first time people have hotly debated her type. and the fact that so many Delta NFs here see inconsistencies between themselves and Maritsa shouldn't be so easily dismissed either.