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Have you met her IRL? If not then a high post count on an online forum is not relevant. This is going to be a general statement to counter yours, but, introverts are quite fine expressing themselves in writing. I actually am quite comfortable with seeing her as an Ij type.

All in all, I am not interested in seeing speculation on what someone is like based on forum posts, no matter how many posts there are. What I care about is seeing the information processing at work and I type her EII strictly based on that, not based on stereotypes and vibes and whatnot.
I have not met her. But that is not to say that exceptional behaviour such as this, being as it is, grounded in something very weighty can just be passed aside as you would have it. I was clear also, it was not just the post count...it is the manner in which she posts (the high energy churning out of posts, and with great consistency, day after day), and the way she pursues others aggressively. I went to great lengths to explain this.

It seems on your logic, she cannot be an extrovert because extroverted functions cannot be displayed in written form. Totally false. I really do not see EII types as best typifying someone who regularly cajoles and prods others, pushes others out of the comfort zones, disrupts peaceable conversations, attempts appeals to the masses and uses other forms of "visible shows of support" as arguments, and who aggressively cuts off (and/or retypes) those who disagree with her typing in any way.

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Again, speculation on her motives is not going to prove anything. She does not display Fe in ego unlike EIEs.
I was not speculating on her motives. It is what she regularly states; it is what she regularly reverts to. It is clear what her ingrained beliefs are.

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Also I don't see her as aggressive in the Se way.
Others in "real life" have disagreed, but that's a hot topic.

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Yes, Maritsa and also other EIIs are fine at consistency in their inert and strong Fi, however not in the flexible and situational, weak Ti role. As soon as the EII ventures into new situations with their Ti, this inconsistency is going to show. While they remain in Fi area they do sound very consistent and orderly in a sense, I agree on that. (Though for the Ne subtype of EII they might look a bit all over the place with strong Ne. What I said is more apparent for Fi subtypes.)
I do not buy this argument for the reasons I have previously stated. (Reverting to subtypes is a bullshit approach, and it doesn't even work in this case). As we have agreed that she has a prodigious posting frequency, it seems especially peculiar that she never takes time to ensure that her previous posts express consistency in her typology. Rather, she more typically posts more and more hot-headed responses, escalating the aggro and bad feeling, but never going back to first principles. It again shows an incredible lack of self-awareness. This is in combination with her utter inability to pick up on the nuances of what people are saying, or the general vibe of a post, or of a thread, or of forum opinion towards her (she asks for example for instances where she caused turmoil...admittedly, it could be to continue to attempt to assert a position of "rightness"...but it doesn't seem tenable to someone with PoLR, especially an EII.

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They (EIEs) however present it very differently from how Maritsa does it.

I don't think Freud or Muhammad had to be EIEs either. I don't know enough of the latter, the former simply doesn't seem EIE in his way of thinking.
Not all EIEs are unhealthy or focus on building their own typologies. I would also say that EIIs on this forum present any such systems differently to Maritsa (if they do at all). It is atypical for it to be an affront on the senses, black-and-white "final and confirmed" typology that regularly causes confrontations (if they involve the types of others at all, they would be more inclined to emphasise the attitude on "in my humble opinion..."

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How is this relevant to her type. The way Maritsa presents that system is different from how say, an ILE with strong Ti and Ne would do it.
We were talking about the basis of Maritsa's "typology". I contend it is poor (probably dual-seeking ), that apes some "guru"'s method, and that when investigated, falls apart completely. It is shown to be based on circular reasoning, and "J-necks" etc....which typically conform to her own ingrained biases. I think a -dominant would be more insular in approach, and if a self-described "Socionist"...more self-aware and consistent in their methodology (they would have a methodology for a start, and would typically have a very good idea why they think a certain why when asked.

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How do you see this as typism? I will not deny the fact that this was my own biased POV of not seeing a point in the Ne type of speculation but that's not the same thing as believing in socionics stereotypes.
Only by the same token that you have done, only more so. I would say "completely pointless Ne guesses at bullshit constructs from loosely correlated concrete traits." would be rather typist, in a negative way, of -ism. Nothing necessarily wrong with that in itself, it is just irritating when you for example that you resort to dismissing something as "speculation" (if indeed it is), rather than seeing as potentially useful, if only as "subjective" observations or perceptions. Your attitude would have more weight being placed on Maritsa describing herself as "meek" for example, because she said it, or focusing on Maritsa relating being nice to puppies on one occasion, or indeed, even observing her apparently being nice to other members on this forum. That is also subjective, but at least we are attempting to aggregate our combined experiences and perceptions and trying to cross-examine such accounts.