Thinking I might be ENFp

[maniac]

and yet she still is better at socionics than sol

Mm no

[Anglas]

Mm no

mm yes, congratulations on picking the worst person as your socionics mentor

[maniac]

mm yes, congratulations on picking the worst person as your socionics mentor

Are you mad because he typed you something you didnt agree with?

[Anglas]

Are you mad because he typed you something you didnt agree with?

Nope, he's just terrible, that's all

[maniac]

Nope, he's just terrible, that's all

Why?

[Anglas]

Why?

He discredits socionics authors whose works are widely used by socionics "professionals". Basically he's taking out letters from the alphabet.
He has no understanding on how socionic's IE work.
He uses MBTI terminology.
And so on

[maniac]

He discredits socionics authors whose works are widely used by socionics "professionals". Basically he's taking out letters from the alphabet.
He has no understanding on how socionic's IE work.
He uses MBTI terminology.
And so on

Hes not good at typing people at the forums and he changes his mind drastically sometimes which is odd. I agree with most of his celebrity typings.

[Sol]

and yet she still is better at socionics than sol

To think other you need to be better in Socionics than Maritsa. You also have wrong opinion about own type like her, - it's not Te, but likely some F. ENFJ is most probable.

He discredits socionics authors whose works are widely used by socionics "professionals"

There is nothing objective to protect those opinions of those authors. That's why I may disagree with them.
These "professionals" are just astrologers wich take money for speculations and often use baseless bs hypotheses instead of normal Socionics. And all these "professionals" have real typing match <50%, what shows their skills as low, in average.

You seems to be the example of Fe type with common "guru" fanboying, what I discussed with summerprincess.
Find something reasonable against my criticism, besides "he disagrees with my guru". Anything should to have objective basis for trust, but not brainless hysterical worshiping.

He has no understanding on how socionic's IE work.

In this case I'd typed too badly to find classical theory as effective in own experience. While you again have nothing objective to say I type significantly worse than your gurus.
If you'd think more yourself, you'd understand how bad those gurus are in typing. But instead of thinking, you prefer mindlessly to agree with them.

He uses MBTI terminology.

The most idiotic argument in this day, especially taking into account this forum uses MBT terminology even in sections names. MBT is same Jungian typology. I'm using it where it fits to Jung and Socionics, as English speakers know this terminology better. It helps to popularize Socionics, while being similarly comfortable.
You've shown the example of other Fe types trait as irrational pul to symbolism followed from archaic Ti systems idelizations.

[Beautiful sky]

she respects authorities like Maritsa
her forum's talking leaves place for T type. photos were in "Unofficial Members Picture Thread" and there was nothing from INFP.
without video I'm not sure, but doubt. also unlike Aylen (real INFP), she says that strongly disagrees with my INFP examples, what rises the possibility of her wrong self-understanding

LSE are authoritarian and controlling maybe you are not LSE

I'll post it

[Sol]

he changes his mind drastically sometimes which is odd

If you'll type yourself many people and for long you'll change your opinion drastically sometimes, as everybody.
In your experience I don't remember to do such still. You don't understand good the difference between assumption and sure opinion, also assumptions have different degrees.
For example I'm sure your type is P with 90%, while that it's not T or Fi leading type - 99%. While I'm not sure in E/I at all for you, SEI as leading version follows from other factors.

About "bad" typings you see on the forum. It's same what you saw in actors list after update. If you agree with many in actors list and much fewer on what you see on the forum, - the all difference is cause by conformism of your perception. You are just more using own opinion for forum's typings, while as I said earlier your real match with me is doubtful to be higher than 50% and most probably is <25%. It's just typical numbers of match between everybody today when they type completely on yourself by common methods, when they don't know beforhand external opinions.

[maniac]

If you'll type yourself many people and for long you'll change your opinion drastically sometimes, as everybody.

Ive typed myself as IEI since i first discovered socionics and read the IEI description a year ago. I was blown away with how accurate it was, coming from mbti where neither was really accurate for me. Then ive derailed to some other types because of others causing confusion.
You still have never explained how my behaviour is not IEI, like in your opinion other types can act however, but IEI is distinct. You also seem to put IEI on a pedistal and romanticize them, very odd indeed when theyre supposed to be your conflictor. I've thought sometimes that you have these framework set up in your head, with how each of the types vibe or feel, at least thats how i experience, but you have them wrong or you look too shallowly relying on your intuition too much which is weak, Ni polr.

[Beautiful sky]

Beta has Ti value and hence likes subordination with its authority figures. Beta is the most authoritarian quadra, as besides liking of formal statuses, it prefers unification (no Ne valued). The examples of beta at power are very centralized states like Hithler's (EIE) Germany, Stalin's (LSI) USSR. Or reforms of George Bush-jr (EIE) in USA, - when civil freedom and rights were excessively supressed under pretence of "terrorism threat". Style of Beta is charismatic dictatorship, no pluralism, total unification, - very centralized societies.



Irrational idealization of "gurus" is Fe/Ti value.
For example being from delta, I mostly respect objectivity and own experience. Not personal charisma (Fe) or formal statuses (Ti).
It's the main reason why I create own list with types examples. And after initial gathering of opinions about own type then spent a year for researching the typology to choose own type based on IR with own typings. I don't like blind trust to gurus, their new theories without proof and don't hide speculative state of today typing methods.



You conversation style is softer and more reasonable than hysterics of EIE and IEI I saw in forums.



You may look at examples of beta and delta, and decide which ones are spiritually closer to you. Without intertype relations it's easy to mistake. Besides bloggers I may pm you actors, as I've significantly updated their list in Internet.

Did you get my link ? also why are you ignoring information that makes her impatient? Please explain

[Sol]

Resume on the moment:

summerprincess, check your type with intertype relations by your typings or by mine. 2nd is much easier
Read something more adequate about types like Flatova's book, but not bs where delta is said as more authoritarian quadra than beta, or where EII is said as liking free will and pluralism lesser than IEI

I strongly doubt in IEI as your type. What you do and say about youself fits to EII better. It's good if you'll make video-interview. You had doubts about your type recently and you'll get it in the future without IR checking.

[Beautiful sky]

she respects authorities like Maritsa
her forum's talking leaves place for T type. photos were in "Unofficial Members Picture Thread" and there was nothing from INFP.
without video I'm not sure, but doubt. also unlike Aylen (real INFP), she says that strongly disagrees with my INFP examples, what rises the possibility of her wrong self-understanding

she's IEI sol, she has a childhood photo where she's spaced out and a puckered face she looks so much like an IEI with attitude.

For EII authority is as good as established order in society to ensure that everything runs according to plan oMG I'm going to die explaining this stuff to you. Free will isn't the same as vigilantism

Resume on the moment:

summerprincess, check your type with intertype relations by your typings or by mine. 2nd is much easier
Read something more adequate about types like Flatova's book, but not bs where delta is said as more authoritarian quadra than beta, or where EII is said as liking free will and pluralism lesser than IEI

I strongly doubt in IEI as your type. What you do and say about youself fits to EII better. It's good if you'll make video-interview. You had doubts about your type recently and you'll get it in the future without IR checking.

One of these days you're going to end up marrying an IEI and you're going to come knocking at my PM to VI her and it's going to be your worst dream come true at this rate