Jordan Peterson

[Sanguine Miasma]

[Alive]

https://youtu.be/C2jCv9A3AuA

High on extroversion, high on openess, moderately high on agreeabless (although I'm unsure about his self-assessment here. He claims he is also blunt and he's quite a controversial figure that doesn't shy away from arguments)

Yeah LIE or EIE, anything else is nonsense.

@Subteigh

[Coeruleum Blue]

I feel like all these years with so much fame have done something to him mentally. He receives a lot of praise from younger people but also probably a lot of death threats too. In general I have often wondered if it is psychologically healthy to be famous on a global scale since you get bombarded with so much information on a daily basis. It's really pretty new for humans. He also seems to have a lot of family and health issues and his Si PolR doesn't really help him very much considering how much medication he abuses and his idiotic all-meat diet which will give him a stroke in the future. Years ago he voiced some decent information on psychology but nowadays he pretty much voices his opinions on a myriad of topics and pretty much makes a fool of himself. No matter how smart you are, you will never be informed about everything and I think it's a sign of intelligence to just shut up when you have nothing to say. I can talk about socionics but I would embarrass myself when I talk about other important, complex fields [emphasis added] so it's just best to accept that and let other people talk here instead of giving younger people dangerous advice.

TIL socionics is an "important, complex field" and not some kind of parlor game.

https://youtu.be/C2jCv9A3AuA

High on extroversion, high on openess, moderately high on agreeabless (although I'm unsure about his self-assessment here. He claims he is also blunt and he's quite a controversial figure that doesn't shy away from arguments)

Yeah LIE or EIE, anything else is nonsense.

@Subteigh

Low on Opennness, he's alt-right. Probably also low on Extraversion since he's a useless neurotic wreck. The only thing right about his self-assessment is that he is neurotic but then he didn't rate himself neurotic enough.

Unironically I would probably rate him IEI and he's one of the few people you're not rating IEI. Whatever.

[Alive]

Unironically I would probably rate him IEI and he's one of the few people you're not rating IEI. Whatever.

I did consider IEI for him actually after some reflection. I remember a video about climate change. I felt like an optimistic, hopeful IEI was asking him the question if the issue would unite humanity, and he was harshly criticising him for his question. I'm really doubtful about him being a lyric.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBf2PU_Bvog

I wish you wouldn't constantly nitpick my gallery tbh. I don't type every person as IEI, that's just really disingenuous to say. build your own gallery if your think you're so much better at typing. oh wait, you rather spend your time on conspiracies about jews. I have you on ignore in chat already. just do the same and move on. I think you are a very unpleasant, arrogant and rigid person.

[Alive]

Hmmm if he is an IEI, then he's a dominant subtype with accentuated Te

[Nightmare]

Lmao

[Alive]

>I change my profile picture and name every day
>I'm totally a rational type

[serenaeva]

ILE

[Nightmare]

Wow, didn't know Jordan Peterson was going to be so disagreed upon. I think he seems Ti base. Tbh, though, I just came here to see Alive type him as IEI.

[Nightmare]

>I change my profile picture and name every day
>I'm totally a rational type

Pfft, I change it more often than that. Mr "I don't use Reinin Dichotomies"

[Alive]

Pfft, I change it more often than that. Mr "I don't use Reinin Dichotomies"

I do use Reinin Dichotomies occasionally, for example Positivism/Negativism, Process/Result. I don't care about all of them, though. I just pick what makes the most sense to me and ignore the rest. Here's a a part of the rational/irrational description in Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69's Book.

Rational posess emotional stability - the ability to maintain a state for a long time, whether positive or negative. this property makes it easy to predict their emotional reactions. They manage their status: despite a negative mood, they can force themselves to perform necessary work with proper quality, or on the contrary, despite a burning desire, to abandon what is so attractive to them. Irrational types are emotionally unstable, characterized by the variabilty of their state: their mood can change several times a day. They very much depend on the flucturations of their biorhythms. Managing their state is always a difficult problem for them: when they are on the decline, energy leaves them and work is not carried out. they have to wait for an emotional rise to catch up. Rationals do not tend to change their employment, hobbies, and social positions in society, but if they do elect to switch, it will be for a long time. Irrationals. in contrast, are quickly carried away, are inclined to change their views and activities, and find that their interests don't last long.

IEI are irrational types, ESI rational. I have no doubt in my mind which one fits you better.

[Nightmare]

I do use Reinin Dichotomies occasionally, for example Positivism/Negativism, Process/Result. I don't care about all of them, though. I just pick what makes the most sense to me and ignore the rest. Here's a a part of the rational/irrational description in Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69's Book.

Rational posess emotional stability - the ability to maintain a state for a long time, whether positive or negative. this property makes it easy to predict their emotional reactions. They manage their status: despite a negative mood, they can force themselves to perform necessary work with proper quality, or on the contrary, despite a burning desire, to abandon what is so attractive to them. Irrational types are emotionally unstable, characterized by the variabilty of their state: their mood can change several times a day. They very much depend on the flucturations of their biorhythms. Managing their state is always a difficult problem for them: when they are on the decline, energy leaves them and work is not carried out. they have to wait for an emotional rise to catch up. Rationals do not tend to change their employment, hobbies, and social positions in society, but if they do elect to switch, it will be for a long time. Irrationals. in contrast, are quickly carried away, are inclined to change their views and activities, and find that their interests don't last long.

IEI are irrational types, ESI rational. I have no doubt in my mind which one fits you better.

Your opinion is unworthy of consideration, you don't even know me. You're just some troll. At this point I just find it funny.

[Alive]

Your opinion is unworthy of consideration, you don't even know me. You're just some troll. At this point I just find it funny.

I'm a troll because I quote a book written by a socionics researcher? you might want to check this out too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcis...ality_disorder

[Nightmare]

I'm a troll because I quote a book written by a socionics researcher? you might want to check this out too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcis...ality_disorder

I know what you're trying to do. You're just too bad at it for it to have the effects you want it to.

[Park]

I like Vaknin's description of Jordan Peterson — "master of banalities and king of cliches." I do think he is overrated and somewhat full of himself.

[lynn]

After looking a bit more into this, I think EIE-Ni-HN subtype is the most likely typing for Jordan Peterson.

[Adam Strange]

After looking a bit more into this, I think EIE-Ni-HN subtype is the most likely typing for Jordan Peterson.

@lynn, what makes you think that Jordan Peterson is EIE-Ni-HN?

[lynn]

@lynn, what makes you think that Jordan Peterson is EIE-Ni-HN?

I think he's EIE, because he's a psychology professor who combines mysticism with psychology and other scientific fields. But in fact, he's mainly a motivational speaker, who appears a bit like a preacher. He's also accused by people of "performing theatre", rather than basing his ideas on actual facts or presenting coherent logical arguments, which makes F > T more likely (EIE in particular). The evidence he provides for his reasoning is consistently bad. It's either some mystical teaching, reference to religion, or he misquotes or misapplies research findings from various scientific fields. However, he doesn't develop any scientific thought of his own. Also, he calls himself a neuroscientist, without having the credentials for this. It's a performance as well. A lot of these points are mentioned by the guy in the video posted by @Sanguine Miasma about Jordan Peterson.

In general, his personal life and his teachings don't match up lol https://twitter.com/commiejudoka/sta...985345/photo/1
He's a workaholic, his Lion's Diet, the drug addiction, etc., doesn't indicate good Si. He's actually a bit of a Si-polr stereotype. His support of hierarchies and his lobster-example (fight for dominance) excludes Alpha and Delta-quadra and seems Se-HA. While also other types are possible (I guess, NT? LIE?), he fulfils the social mission of EIE perfectly well and his logic seems most of the time flawed, even though he values it (1d-Ti), that's why I find this type the most likely at this point.

DCNH-wise, he seems to be HN or (maybe HDN, and it's his E1-ness who makes him appear more normalizing).
H: He's working in the field of psychology, drawn towards mysticism and religion. His speech is mostly long-winded explanations, not very precise. He takes forever to come to the main point (if ever).
N: He also seems disciplined and calls out for order. His overall philosophy that we need following our obligations in society, which is also reflected in his professional role as a professor (instructor/teacher) and his pull towards academia which is a highly structured environment.
But based on what he actually does, he's mainly a speaker, with a few entrepreneurial ventures on the side such as selling his books and merchandise, I guess. There are no C-subtype-traits in his behavior and movement, which interestingly also coincides with his goal of preserving the status quo, his conservative values and his fear of chaos, etc.

[Alive]

It's interesting how many videos I've found of him crying

https://youtube.com/shorts/s4MWzgsQtPs?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/5EUZ3pKgJx4?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/zu5Z1l0n8CA?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/owldEcByzOg?feature=share

(This is just a small sample-size)

Incidentally I happen to have the photo of me with him and thought you guys might find it interesting. This would've been in late spring of 2018

Attachment 18044

From a purely physical perspective, he looks like a dominant subtype. He's also initiating, talkative, doesn't shy away from confrontations and arguments.

[Sanguine Miasma]

I think he's EIE, because he's a psychology professor who combines mysticism with psychology and other scientific fields. But in fact, he's mainly a motivational speaker, who appears a bit like a preacher. He's also accused by people of "performing theatre", rather than basing his ideas on actual facts or presenting coherent logical arguments, which makes F > T more likely (EIE in particular). The evidence he provides for his reasoning is consistently bad. It's either some mystical teaching, reference to religion, or he misquotes or misapplies research findings from various scientific fields. However, he doesn't develop any scientific thought of his own. Also, he calls himself a neuroscientist, without having the credentials for this. It's a performance as well. A lot of these points are mentioned by the guy in the video posted by @Sanguine Miasma about Jordan Peterson.

In general, his personal life and his teachings don't match up lol https://twitter.com/commiejudoka/sta...985345/photo/1
He's a workaholic, his Lion's Diet, the drug addiction, etc., doesn't indicate good Si. He's actually a bit of a Si-polr stereotype. His support of hierarchies and his lobster-example (fight for dominance) excludes Alpha and Gamma-quadra and seems Se-HA. While also other types are possible (I guess, NT? LIE?), he fulfils the social mission of EIE perfectly well and his logic seems most of the time flawed, even though he values it (1d-Ti), that's why I find this type the most likely at this point.

DCNH-wise, he seems to be HN or (maybe HDN, and it's his E1-ness who makes him appear more normalizing).
H: He's working in the field of psychology, drawn towards mysticism and religion. His speech is mostly long-winded explanations, not very precise. He takes forever to come to the main point (if ever).
N: He also seems disciplined and calls out for order. His overall philosophy that we need following our obligations in society, which is also reflected in his professional role as a professor (instructor/teacher) and his pull towards academia which is a highly structured environment.
But based on what he actually does, he's mainly a speaker, with a few entrepreneurial ventures on the side such as selling his books and merchandise, I guess. There are no C-subtype-traits in his behavior and movement, which interestingly also coincides with his goal of preserving the status quo, his conservative values and his fear of chaos, etc.

The problem with Peterson is that he has never sat down to actually study hard sciences. It is sort of must if you want to be even hobbyist in it. Yes, I have seen some students "interested" in science in similar manner before (I don't say that they are identicals). The truth is that they never seem to pass the exams. There needs to be some sort of humility present to overcome the Dunning-Kruger effect. It is sort of amazing how far he went in the academia (I suppose it is/was doable in psych).

[Adam Strange]

I think he's EIE, because he's a psychology professor who combines mysticism with psychology and other scientific fields. But in fact, he's mainly a motivational speaker, who appears a bit like a preacher. He's also accused by people of "performing theatre", rather than basing his ideas on actual facts or presenting coherent logical arguments, which makes F > T more likely (EIE in particular). The evidence he provides for his reasoning is consistently bad. It's either some mystical teaching, reference to religion, or he misquotes or misapplies research findings from various scientific fields. However, he doesn't develop any scientific thought of his own. Also, he calls himself a neuroscientist, without having the credentials for this. It's a performance as well. A lot of these points are mentioned by the guy in the video posted by @Sanguine Miasma about Jordan Peterson.

In general, his personal life and his teachings don't match up lol https://twitter.com/commiejudoka/sta...985345/photo/1
He's a workaholic, his Lion's Diet, the drug addiction, etc., doesn't indicate good Si. He's actually a bit of a Si-polr stereotype. His support of hierarchies and his lobster-example (fight for dominance) excludes Alpha and Delta-quadra and seems Se-HA. While also other types are possible (I guess, NT? LIE?), he fulfils the social mission of EIE perfectly well and his logic seems most of the time flawed, even though he values it (1d-Ti), that's why I find this type the most likely at this point.

DCNH-wise, he seems to be HN or (maybe HDN, and it's his E1-ness who makes him appear more normalizing).
H: He's working in the field of psychology, drawn towards mysticism and religion. His speech is mostly long-winded explanations, not very precise. He takes forever to come to the main point (if ever).
N: He also seems disciplined and calls out for order. His overall philosophy that we need following our obligations in society, which is also reflected in his professional role as a professor (instructor/teacher) and his pull towards academia which is a highly structured environment.
But based on what he actually does, he's mainly a speaker, with a few entrepreneurial ventures on the side such as selling his books and merchandise, I guess. There are no C-subtype-traits in his behavior and movement, which interestingly also coincides with his goal of preserving the status quo, his conservative values and his fear of chaos, etc.

A tour de force of an analysis, and I’m convinced.

[Coeruleum Blue]

I like Vaknin's description of Jordan Peterson — "master of banalities and king of cliches." I do think he is overrated and somewhat full of himself.

Jordan Peterson is like Joe Rogan but with more academic credentials and no DMT obsession. I think people mostly watch him for the guests.

[Park]

Rogan > Peterson

[get R]

LSI

[Lilli98]

In general, his personal life and his There are no C-subtype-traits in his behavior and movement, which interestingly also coincides with his goal of preserving the status quo, his conservative values and his fear of chaos, etc.

What do you mean by the "movement part"?