His weakest cognitive skill according to him is in realm of mathematical understanding. So logic is probably bit weaker.
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I see why others want to peg him as someone with strong logical functions, but he's terribly inconsistent in his beliefs, and has gaping holes in them. He can cite sources, but so can anyone with a decent memory, and it's his primary job.
For example, he believes that relativism is the scourge of modern western society, and equates that with post-modernism AND marxism. That doesn't make any sense, it's like he never bothered to look up what marxism is, yet he shrugs it off as something bad or evil. There is legitimate criticism of marxism, but Peterson is nowhere close to having anything relevant to critique it for.
Then he equates lobster hierarchy with human society and uses that as a justification for inequality. Humans are not lobsters, obviously. Other animals have less of a hierarchical structure in their way of living, are those not equally valid, then? Why lobsters, that aren't even mammals or closely related to us evolutionary?
He has this weird diet where he only eats red meat, it's weird, it's not based on anything except his feeling of it being better for him. Wtf? Humans are not carnivores...
LxE and LxI is tempting because he likes rules and cites his claims, but I would expect consistency in his beliefs if that was the case. Te HA xEE feels out of the question too, since they aren't people who will write extensive rules about things. Auxiliary logic? I'd still expect some level of consistency across beliefs. He seems too fond of Te to really be an xEI, and too quarrelsome to be Delta intuitive introvert.
ESI still likes to maintain a sense of order in what they percieve as a chaotic environment, and he really excells at giving people guidance in how to act to become a responsible and happier person. His forceful indignation seems to be strong, and he genuinely believes that maintaining control over the environment is important to not let chaos in. He's really good at convincing others of his ethics, but is poor in logical consistency and use force rather than logical reasoning in debates, he will often deflect by being long-winded and ending up on something adjacent to what he was pressured on.
TL;DR: Clearly values Te and Se, but the logical consistency and factual correctness is piss poor. ESI, then, because he makes a huge deal about controlling your environment and convincing others of what is ethical and proposes these "12 rules for life".
I think he is Ni-EIE. His line of reasoning is very associative, at times scattered. He is a very talented talker though, and knows which emotions to invoke in others - and how to do it. He's an intellectual, but seems more ethical than logical to me. He's also somewhat of a trickster, a shill if you will. Intelligent and values Ti, yes, but his logical functions are not that strong - lots of inconsistencies in his views as previously mentioned. In the Enneagram, probably a 1w9.
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I thought iei but eie ni could work
I'm surprised that, with all the information that is out there, people type jordan peterson as anything but a gamma NT tbh.
I can't remember if I said anything here or not, but I like his psychology stuff. I find him helpful. He seems Ni about things - symbolic and seeing the forest for the trees. I don't like his generalizations/assertions about political issues. But I guess we all have our opinions. I think he's probably some kind of EIE and LIE hybrid, at least in my mind.
I retract some of my previous statements on Jordan Peterson after reading one of his books. I think he is interesting now...still think he’s like a cultish guru, though , and EIE. Was pretty helpful at this time in my life, so thank you Jordan Peterson.
Very highly Ti-valuing intuitive (lots of Ni metaphors and Ne creativity). Weak Se, apparently valued but is it a way to try to cover his PoLR (which he would be very aware of due to his field)? Haven't watched that much of his videos and don't know much about his personal life, though. I do agree with many of his views in the videos I've seen, but don't feel like I'm in need of his help although I can see it as useful for many.
EIE feels like a strong contender but I'm not sure I would see him as my dual. His speaking style is somewhat annoying to me (EIE tend to the opposite, the content or agenda doesn't matter here). If he's EIE, he'd have to be playing LII "scientist" role strongly.
The problem with LII typing is his apparently valued Se, of which I wrote previously, but that could be explained by focusing a lot of effort in trying to compensate for it.
--He emphasizes objective truth and is very absolute in his answers. He also focuses on WHY things are the way they are - Ti
--Te types comes off more "maybe" and "there is no truth" in their answers. They focus on THE DATA and what THE EXPERTS SAY. This means ENTJ would most likely NOT be his type.
--He faces confrontation with relative ease and faces it head on versus running away from conflict. He is aware of POWER DYNAMICS and position themselves to win, letting his opponents hang themselves - Se. This means LII would most likely NOT be his type.
LIIs would be like "ok bye"
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JP shares some sort of "sociotype continuum" with Varg Vikernes. perhaps they're both beta rationals... duals
He is LIE creative subtype dcnh
I dont remember if I have said it before. But Im pretty sure of his type now.
A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
(Jung on Si)
being good at both ≠ preferring both
JP also has "systems of views" for just about anything and breaks down how they work, why they work, etc... ESIs don't really do this to the extent JP does
I was thinkin LSI.
LSIs see their logic as "common sense" while ESIs use more "textbook" answers and are more stubborn about the feelz,
ESI what an insult. poop headz
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I just straight up do not think he is a sensor type.
Check out his older, older vids. Very delicate constitution of a hard core intuitive.
Any rate, glad he is out of Russian rehab.
I also do not see him as a Te rational type either, also, refering to him as a young man.
I still think LII, IEE, or EIE, or LIE (for reasons other than temperament). It's hard to see past his Canadian common sense advice which is ingrained in culture here. Pull yourself up by your boot straps is a dime a dozen type mentality, maybe why this country usually does so great during rescessions. Same way Aussies are culturally distinct as ST styles.
I do like Jordie.
But he's SO Ti it's ridiculous
--EIE more emphasis on charisma and persuasion
--LSI more emphasis on overseeing correct structures
More realistic and down to earth.
Rather notice details than the big picture.
More focused on their surroundings, living in the here and now.
More naturally comfortable with physical confrontations.
Often more interested in practice than in theory.
More idealistic and head-in-the-clouds.
Rather see the big picture than the details.
More focused on ideas than on surroundings.
Less naturally comfortable with physical confrontations.
Often more interested in theory than in practice.
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to me this aligns with his predominantly-meat diet , which I view as a rather heavy handed approach to maintaining homeostasis vs. nuanced solutions
not to mention JP comes across as a person who does not partake in leisure (as a way of contributing to health) "relax" time could be better spent elsewhere :eg. inside thoughts , ideas
I think EIE or LIE, but I wouldn't bet a lot on that.
y'all type everyone on this damn plant EIE.
accept your inner grey and set yourself free x
devourer of the sun // consumer of the moon⚹
& you know now,
that anything alone is
& any two things
together is a terror.
Love and Hate are two sides of the same coin.
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.
Is he Se-Ni, or is that just him being SX/SP? I am not sure. I do not think he is a sensor. He is definitely not Delta, and especially not Delta-NF. Alpha-NT, Gamma-NT, and Beta-NF are all realistic. I think that his true strength is intuition, not "thinking" per say, though that inherently does not rule out him being any of the NT types.
Why is that fucking narcissist still in our faces?
Ok, I’ve had too much coffee. I need to chill.
What a strange life that guy leads. Launches his career on anti-PC profiteering, then during the largest expression of PC outrage for the last couple decades, he’s not able to say anything because he’s ODed on some benzos.
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ever the eternal boomer I see.. at least cleaning up your generation's mess will be interesting.
My brother is obsessed with Jordan Peterson. He is also a conservative Christian. : sigh :