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    Psychological Types was not based on the Philosophy of Science. What philosophies/philosophers do you see influencing his cognitive function theory? I'm not well versed in philosophy, but from what I've read, he was influenced by Plato, Kant, Hegel, Heidegger, Schopenhauer. He seems to have heavily influenced by philosophical Idealism.
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    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    He definitely wasn't too concerned with Empiricism and the Philosophy of Science.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Is typology essentially bunk because it is based on pseudoscience and pseudophilosophy? Anyone else agree?
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Jung said his work was empirical but he misunderstood the word. a big wig philosopher critic called him out on it and Jung ended up admitting fault.

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    I started a thread about the four temperaments a few months ago, after reading through this site. It was informative.
    Carl Jung was among many great personality theorists who drew inspiration and guidance from the ancient Greek Four Temperaments model and its various interpretations over the centuries. Carl Jung's key book in this regard, which extended and explained his theories about personality type, was Psychological Types, published in 1921. His theory of Psychological Types was part of a wider set of ideas relating to psychic energy, in which he developed important concepts for clinical psychological therapy and psycho-analysis (psychiatric diagnosis and therapy).

    http://www.businessballs.com/persona...odels.htm#carl jung's personality types
    The Four Temperaments also provided much inspiration and historical reference for Carl Jung's work, which in turn provided the underpinning structures and theory for the development of Myers Briggs'® and David Keirsey's modern-day personality assessment systems, which correlate with the Four Temperaments thus:
    Isabel Myers 1950s Galen c.190AD David Keirsey 1998
    SP sensing-perceiving sangine artisan
    SJ sensing-judging melancholic guardian
    NF intuitive-feeling choleric idealist
    NT intuitive-thinking phlegmatic rationalist



    http://www.businessballs.com/persona...ylesmodels.htm

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    If it aint Lao Tzu, it aint right
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    If it aint Lao Tzu, it aint right
    and so it is... iow, amen.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    I can't really argue with you, but I don't see how he was a Philosophical Idealist or how he followed pseudophilosophy; his definitions of subjective and objective don't suggest that he thought reality was a construct of the mind, rather that we have different ways of objectively interacting with reality and unique ways of subjectively relating it.

    But how did you come to see it as pseudophilosophy?
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