Do you find Arnold Schwarzenegger (when he was younger) physically/sexually attractive?
Do you find Arnold Schwarzenegger (when he was younger) physically/sexually attractive?
nah... greater than average physical strength is unimpressive at best
The media portrays women as going crazy over guys with muscular bodies.
My spontaneous reaction after reading your question. "Hah!" as in "I don't think so."
INFj
Are you a girl?Originally Posted by pesto
a lot of women doOriginally Posted by Blake
So far, 4 members have voted No, and nobody has voted Yes.Originally Posted by Joy
Edit:Originally Posted by Blake
INFj
Yuck.
Icky.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I've wondered if a lot of men build muscles to impress other men... just like a lot of women wear make up to impress other women.
From these results I get the impression that the media falsely represent women's taste in men in terms of their muscularity.
No.Originally Posted by Joy
Joy, can you explain this thing about women wanting to impress other women, because I know very little about this. Oyburger mentioned it once.Originally Posted by Joy
Nope. Why do you say Yes?Originally Posted by Starfall
I'm not really sure I understand it myself, honestly...
Most men don't prefer women to wear make up, yet a lot of women do. Women compare themselves to other women and judge other women.
I blame the media. They have created this survival of the fittest mentality.
It's not the media. It's biology. We're programed to judge ourselves in this way.
In past epochs, male members of the human species were more likely to survive, and consequently better fit to protect and provide for their offspring, if they were physically stronger and larger. Women members of the species were more likely to attract a potential mate and bear children if they were more sexually desirable. When men judge themselves, they covertly think to themselves: "Am I stronger/more intimidating (and thus more likely to survive) than that person?" When women judge themselves, they covertly say to themselves: "Am I better looking/more sexually desirable (and thus more likely to bear children) than that person?"
Yes, I know I sound like a Chauvinist pig right now, but for the vast majority of people, these underlying biological relics are still alive and well. Certain facets of the media only portray (although, admittedly isolate and magnify) these inborn inclinations. Our society (well, most of the societies still extant on this planet) have evolved past a hunter-gatherer stage.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Perhaps if you'd chosen a representative of the male gender that conforms more to current tastes you would have gotten different results. For example orlando bloom was a favorite for awhile (I don't know if that has changed).Originally Posted by Blake
I'm pretty much physically attracted to only tall, thin guys.
me too
Its a competition between women. Women will usually talk bad about other women (how they're dressed, their make-up, their mates etc.) in some sort of effort to make the other woman look bad or make themselves look better.Originally Posted by Blake
To be honest I don't really understand it myself, I usually hung out with guys growing up (except for a few trust worthy girls) because of the competition.
Women judge each other very harshly. It gets ugly.
I think Orlando Bloom is adorable, but he is a bit girly. Really, guys like Joquain Phoenix and Christian Bale, who are more masculine (but not caricatures of what men think women like) but still very handsome, are ideal IMO.
Oh I think Jude Law is among the most gorgeous men out there too, but he's more handsome now that he's a bit older. Even though he's losing his hair.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
I have always wondered about this. My Ex would look far better without makeup. She looked more natural.Originally Posted by Joy
Women do like guys with a muscular body i think though, Australian AFL footballers women here go crazy for. They have very sculpted arms, bums etc.
Now girls... I have prepaired a special feast of eye candy for you. Get ready for what youve always wanted!!!
***Backs out of thread slowly****
ENFp (Unsure of Subtype)
"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
Oh yeah AFL football. The first time we were in Australia, we were watchign the news and that came on and I said "Why didn't anyone tell me about this sport before???"
LOL
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.-Mark Twain
You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.
AAACCKK Meatburger, my eyes are burned!
toned is different from built... I don't even care if a guy is toned, as long as he's tall and skinny lol
ok. That hurts
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"And the day came when the risk it took to remain closed in a bud became more painful than the risk it took to blossom." - Anaïs Nin
what a shitty way to commit suicide
Originally Posted by Blakewomen who study socionics are smart & sexyOriginally Posted by Blake
There's a difference from having 'man curves' and being ripped, too.
Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
If you're in this forum to learn something, be careful. Lots of misplaced toxicity.
~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
~a certain mysterious power that may prove terribly fascinating to the extraverted man, for it touches his unconscious.
????Originally Posted by Joy
Physical strenght is not necessarily related to the lenght of muscular cross-section.
Also, given the level of fitness of the average man, greater than average is really a small quantity.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
They're also useful in sports you know.Originally Posted by Joy
In any case, I agree that arnold's level (as wella as the level of any pro bodybuilder) is absolutely useless.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Actually, as in any phenomena, there is a inverted paraboloid that describes this phenomena. Over a certain level, bodily muscularity is useless if not detrimental since it counters flexibility speed and agility, which of course were necessary for survival. That's also why the women here of the forum are yucking at Arnold of course.Originally Posted by Baby
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
I think women "go crazy" because it's fun to go crazy in front of other women. But when those women are on their own, they're not likely to go "crazy" because no one's around to look at them.Originally Posted by meatburger
No. He reminds me of a cross between a gugelhupf and a nutcracker.Originally Posted by Blake
Cute, eh? Want to see what's underneath the shirt?
http://etvsport.ee/failid/1679.jpg
And I think that great physical strength is very sexy. Unfortunately I can't say the same about huge muscles. I like the thin vertical line that leads to the belly-button.
And lol. Something I found then I did a google search. Gotta-see category! You have got to see it!
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I remember reading something a while back about flexibility being correlated with physical charisma.Originally Posted by FDG
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lolOriginally Posted by stefana
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