Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteButterfly View Post
@Myst, j/p in socionics refers to the dominant function being rational or not. eg. SiTe is ISTp, because Si is irrational. The J/P in MBTI isn't defined that way, it considers both the dominant and auxiliary functions, which ever one is extroverted determines if it's J or P. eg. SiTe, the extroverted function is Te which is thinking, which is a judging function. So it becomes ISTJ.

For ISTP the P comes from TiSe, extraverted sensing, which is a perceiving function
ISTj in socionics, the J comes from TiSe, introverted thinking, which is a rational function

That's how you get ISTP/ISTj as a single type
I know all that :BIG YAWN: And I don't give a shit.

See below why.


In my opinion socionics version of defining the j/p rule is simpler and closer to the Jungian descriptions, MBTI seems to have deviated a bit
The problem is, the type profiles also include the behaviour styles for J/P and j/p and these styles are rather similar. Now someone who types J in one system suddenly becomes p in the other one and match the type descriptions in both systems as well? No such thing exists. Before you say profiles are just illustrations, sure, they are, but why such inconsistency in them?