Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
if this is in consideration in the hiring process it certainly is an assumption and it is discrimination. the individual applicant is being judged on the basis of a group that applicant belongs to.

right. because childcare is woman's work in our society. paying mothers less than fathers basically keeps it that way. there are two parents, yet only one of them is considered the child rearing one, and all the work involved in that is discounted anyway. women are just inconsistent baby machines who should stay at home with the kids. the end.

i love how you don't even see how this is discrimination! for one, if this thinking is in the hiring process like i said, there is no question it's discrimination. for two, perhaps the very practice of increasing salary over time and rewarding consistent employment is itself something to call into question.

seriously you can apply your style of argumentation to why women weren't allowed in certain college programs in the past. "well, all the students are men and there are only men's bathrooms so like there just isn't anywhere to house a woman in this environment." i've seriously read college rejection letters to women from the 50s saying shit like this. basically society doesn't *want* to accommodate for those who do not belong to privileged groups. change is necessary for equality and a lot of people in a lot of systems don't wanna change, often simply because it just isn't "feasible" aka convenient.
You act as though I told women to get into relationships with men and become the dominate child raising parent. What people do in their own homes is their business, if the majority of the world wants to run their household like that then who am I to judge. It is a pretty common technique to raising children in K selected species. There are quite a few exceptions though, so I mean it's not written in stone. It doesn't have to be that way. It is probable though that there is some value to the family model that we currently have in society.

Also you are right, I don't see discrimination, I see businessmen that want to make as much money as possible. The only thing they are discriminate against is low earnings. Even with female CEOs and managers, for some reason the pay didn't spike among female employees. You'd think they'd be less discriminate.