Quote Originally Posted by Hitta View Post
They don't really have to make any assumptions at all for the pay gap to exist.
if this is in consideration in the hiring process it certainly is an assumption and it is discrimination. the individual applicant is being judged on the basis of a group that applicant belongs to.

Married women with children work far fewer hours. This lowers their salary quite a bit. If you have the fewer hours being worked, or breaks being taken for childcare or whatever, they will be less likely to get raises in salary.
right. because childcare is woman's work in our society. paying mothers less than fathers basically keeps it that way. there are two parents, yet only one of them is considered the child rearing one, and all the work involved in that is discounted anyway. women are just inconsistent baby machines who should stay at home with the kids. the end.

While I'm not saying that legitimate discrimination doesn't exist in the workforce, because it probably does.... you don't need discrimination to get a pay gap. It's just common sense and practical for business owners.
i love how you don't even see how this is discrimination! for one, if this thinking is in the hiring process like i said, there is no question it's discrimination. for two, perhaps the very practice of increasing salary over time and rewarding consistent employment is itself something to call into question. eta: or perhaps the grind of work should be looked at... why is it that we all need to work 8 hour chunks or whatever? is it possible to still run society and be more flexible? (pretty sure it is!)

seriously you can apply your style of argumentation to why women weren't allowed in certain college programs in the past. "well, all the students are men and there are only men's bathrooms so like there just isn't anywhere to house a woman in this environment." i've seriously read college rejection letters to women from the 50s saying shit like this. basically society doesn't *want* to accommodate for those who do not belong to privileged groups. change is necessary for equality and a lot of people in a lot of systems don't wanna change, often simply because it just isn't "feasible" aka convenient.