Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
i don't know how you can argue that point when i've already shown you that isn't the case. i think you're totally missing the larger point here: the inequality women face is less about the "77 cents" statistic and more about systemic, built-in discrimination that is hard to qualify or address directly. equally qualified women doing the same jobs as men are usually paid less, especially women with children because they are automatically, unfairly perceived to be less dedicated to their jobs. men with children do not face this kind of discrimination. i quoted specific statistics and facts to show you how this systemic discrimination manifests in terms of salary and job opportunities, but you're just completely ignoring them. you are also dismissing cases of discrimination as outliers, but the truth is that this is an endemic, widespread issue and not something that is an exception to the rule.

to further address your last point, female engineers doing the same job as men don't get paid the same. specifically, they get paid 82% of what their male counterparts do: http://www.aauw.org/2015/04/14/women...anged-in-stem/
The pay gap exists because the employer doesn't feel as though he can rely on married women with children as much as a woman that's unmarried without children. It is common sense as to why this would be the case. Married women with children are going to work less hours. Married women with children are going to be be less consistent employees on average. Salary increases occur with sustainability.

TBH we live in a society where everyone wants to breed, but only certain percentage should. We live in a world full of breeders, where someones happiness is linked to whether or not they have children. Religious institutions have pretty much implanted this idea into our heads that we must reproduce, and quite frankly it is a pretty ignorant philosophy. When the abortion rate became legal in the 70s, the crime rate went down substantially. One could actually make the argument that if you are a single pregnant girl, that not aborting the baby is murder as opposed to the other way around that religious institutions like to propose. Having children should be financially difficult to ward of people from the idea of having children. And maybe there's some semblance reasoning why when the education of women in a society goes up, the birth rate goes down.

Married women with children are never going to get paid as much as as their unimpeded counterparts. The reason is that employers are trying to make money. There is no way they can fix this without causing some other far more fucked up issue to occur in society. If they ever did some sort of alteration in the pay of women that have children, the birth rate would skyrocket.