She mb your subrevisie (ESI -> SLE), so you evaluate her much through her weakness. You pay attention on what is closer to your conscious - F, your possible base function. Especially you should not like her other values - Fe/Ti. You perceive this as wrong emotionality - "somewhat narcissistic/histrionic to me". Fe expression should be seemed to you as redundantly agitated, not natural, - "inauthentic".
She portrays herself as an IEI, and maybe she is one, but I question it. She doesn't seem interesting and regurgitates tired New Age concepts. I would expect more originality from an IEI.
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To me she seems Ne. I dont see Ni
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Even if she's crazy I like her, she has good ideas and seem to aim towards actually helping others.
Could be sle yeah or ile, she's very articulate and good at logical reasoning
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Fi lead, does what she wants bases in what she thinks is right, often shows advises others to go thier own way and not to conform, often shows disregard for Fe.
Ne auxillary, abstract thinking aware of many possible scenarios, knows what concepts to market to others, does not see seemingly contradictory statements and ways of thinking as such because of looking at everything from many angles.
Si Tertiary- organizes information (the way her videos are structured)
Te inferior- attempts to manage how others think of her. Doesn't come up with original frameworks but rather gathers already available information from many sources (and uses Si to organize it in the way that serves her Fi) aware of need of the tribe but can not prioritize over individuality. Wants to seem credible but may not have sources to back up information.
my impression as well. *Shivers*
Hey @inumbra - She gives me the impression that she laughs at and is turned on by child sexual abuse. Like if you try to go to her for help with that it will just either really turn her on or she will do things like blame the victim and try to see how you 'attracted it in your own vibration' or something... despite her criticizing Esther Hicks when she's obviously just doing that for financial reasons since Esther Hicks is her competitor and they're both trying to lure in suckers.
I still like her style & some of the things she says, but I'm more forgiving with people than I ought to be I guess. But I mean yeah my Ni sees this really well... and the really over the top stuff she claims she experienced as a child growing up is way too far-fetched for me and it just seems like this sick fantasy she has about children that she's manipulating others to feel sorry for her as if it really happened so she can be 'in the right.' Like I can't believe the validity of it, it just is some perv fantasy she has or something. She is worldly or smart enough to not act on it and to just use it to manipulate others financially though, I think. Or I hope lol.
I found her videos and thought she was strange but had some things to say that agreed with. The more videos I watched I felt a growing sense of discomfort because I was beginning to develop a little crush on her.
I think she is super sexy and cute and I'm ashamed to say it which makes it even hotter . I am seriously attracted to this crazy woman pls help me.
I think shes a beta NF, I wouldn't be surprised if she was a beta ST too though. Her parents were hippies apparently so she was probably fed a bunch of that hippie BS and just sounds like a NF as a result. There was a video where she talks about being tired of taking control in a relationship and she has a hard time feeling feminine.
I want to pick her up and carry her away with me. So cute yet so psycho.
lol.
I thought she could be one of the freaky rare entp-female but no. I’m back to thinking she is ENFJ. She has loads of mbti-infp EII around her, which makes sense, exhausting ITR (inter type relation) is most compatible in opposite Quadra.
...she’s tuned everything to mbti-infp’s. They are her audience. Her crazy stories? Mbti-infp likes them!
I was looking at images of her and that cold look in her eyes and I began to wonder if she's a Te dom. It wouldn't seem like new age cult leader or similar is something Te doms would generally be thought to be into but that's ok. After all there is scientology lol.
It's difficult for me to see her as valuing Fe bc of the cold and when she does Fe it doesn't feel genuine to me...
Also her robo talking voice as I will call it, seems like a Te dom voice.
If Te dom, I lean towards LIE.
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I was looking at images of her and that cold look in her eyes and I began to wonder if she's a Te dom. It wouldn't seem like new age cult leader or similar is something Te doms would generally be thought to be into but that's ok. After all there is scientology lol.I've always thought she was from my quadra since we think similar, but I know supervisors/supervisees also think alike so LIE is an interesting type. And I like the Ti dichotomy of Fe = hot and Te = cold because they are opposites after all.
It's difficult for me to see her as valuing Fe bc of the cold and when she does Fe it doesn't feel genuine to me...
Also her robo talking voice as I will call it, seems like a Te dom voice.
If Te dom, I lean towards LIE.
Those corny 'Psychology 101' stock photo images thing she shows in every video ((that I brutally ripped apart in my fan fiction I wrote of her lol)) was Te/Fi as hell wasn't it... and that sort of thing always came across as Delta to me but maybe Gamma.
ah ha like idk... I like this vid bc she's talking about herself, and it seems kinda gamma? I wonder if she gets in trouble a lot for the 1d Fi and the way she thinks of this as a field she's an expert in, and business... Anyway at the very least the Te looks strong and the Fi is the weak area. with the weak Fi it may generate mistrust bc she just is like "this is what works, that ethically sensitive thing is nice and fluffy and all BUT IT DOESN'T WORK." like the whole issue for her is her ethics and people being uncertain if she has any lol.
And I try to consider irrational types but she just seems so dang rational and EJ.
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Oh, Teal.
The reason I don't believe her is the stuff she's said in the past people would realistically be arrested for (like her stories about childhood abuse) or I mean... I don't hear any news stories about her supposed perpetrators. What are even their names? If what she said was real- it would be this huge story on the internet and all the major media players would have a field day with it. Nancy Grace would go ballistic with a story like that.
The FBI probably investigated what she said and didn't find any evidence because they realized it was some fucked-up made believe story she said for more $$$ - but she's still allowed to claim it was true to manipulate people into feeling sorry for her so they'd buy her books and crap. Cuz the law is hopeless when it comes to people like Teal- it can only go after easily scapegoated SLE bad boys lol.
I could be wrong. If that crap really happened to her I mean we should have compassion because 'even Teal Swan has feelings too' but I just don't buy it. Based on her cold narcissistic ways. Or maybe something did happen, but she's extremely exaggerating and milking it.
It's like this clever Te way to legitimatize some fucked up Ni fantasies maybe?
Her recent-ish video about women liking bad boys was kinda like something I'd talk about ((we do often think alike)) and I liked some of the logic in what she was talking about - but considering that she's single and doesn't have a relationship herself it seems a lot of what she is talking about is bullshit. Any time I look at the real reality beyond what she says - it's always so different than her narc presentation.
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Her Si sounds horrible.
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EIE. Or maybe IEI as a second option. But I’m surprised this is as controversial a typing as it is!
@BandD, what has she said that’s bad? I’ve only watched one video of hers, and don’t know anything more about her.
My immediate impression of her is that though she doesn’t have the best grasp of Ti/structured thinking, she does seem to be insightful about people, and much of what she gets at, even if I think her exact phrasing, explanations, and analogies are slightly off the mark, are effective at expressing an ultimate truth under the surface. From searching her online it seems many people think she’s a cult leader. I don’t know enough about her to have an opinion on that, but she doesn’t strike me as particularly bad-hearted. Though EIEs, which I think she is, do have a tendency to garner a cult-like following, I’m not sure how intentional it is for them.
This reminds me of David Koresh. I did a paper about the Branch Dravidians for my undergrad “thesis” and it struck me how it seemed he’d developed a following almost accidentally, like he just spoke and people became just became devoted to him. From what I know about his personality, I really don’t think he encouraged this, initially, even if it later went to his head and drove him (more) insane.
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I'll say it in spoiler quotes because I don't want to re-trigger anybody in case they were abused.
Oh and looks like she's a COVID-19 denier as well according to Wikipedia - probably has to be against the government because they are the ones who investigated her abuse and didn't find any evidence to corroborate her claims. I'm normally against the government as well- but if Teal Swan is against them- I'm gonna be like Go Government, Go.
She also claimed to be alien who has superpowers and is here to help us, inferior beings lol
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For a moment, I read the thread title as "Teal Swan: Spiritual Capitalist" and thought 'that sounds about right.'
@BandD, this is what Wikipedia says about her being a “Covid denier:”
Swan released a video in May that strongly implied that various world governments had facilitated the Covid-19 pandemic to profit from individuals, and that anyone entering quarantine was “a herd animal” being “controlled by others."
That’s not “denying” anything. She’s right.
Interesting about the abuse. I’ll look into it; thanks.
Okay so I wasn't perfectly logically right with the word 'denier' maybe - but it's like you are defending her when she's clearly a fucked up narcissistic abuser and gaslighter and liar. I wouldn't let yourself become manipulated by her just because she's objectively attractive lol.
I think that there's also stories of her being forced to traffic people that again- if they were true- would be such a huge real world news story etc.
She uses the imagination of Ni and then Te I think to profit off that imagination. Ni understands the differences between reality and fantasy quite well because it's intrinsically linked with Se. I still think she might be EIE rather than LIE though. I think you can do that crap with 2D Te and not necessarily 4D Te but who knows. She has nowhere near the amount of money as Oprah or Deepak Chopra etc. And really I think she doesn't want to become a billionaire - she just wants enough money to keep fucking with people's heads.
Okay obviously there are a lot people worse than Teal Swan and it's not like I want to see the woman mauled by a bear or anything- but I still don't feel right sugar coating what she does.
EIE is in consideration for me... it's close to LIE anyway, just flip role/lead... but i guess i still feel like this is the leading Te not the role Te. but some EIE can have such a convincing persona that they can pull off a look like this... i mean she is after all an extraterrestrial lol and so this cold way of talking to the human race is like her alien perspective lol. if she came off totally normal and naturally, it would be more difficult for some ppl to believe she's an alien.
in her vid in which she defends herself, she says she doesn't say these things like about her past and being an alien bc she expects people to believe it and regrets how these things have distracted from her content. i find this interesting though because a lot of her content is that she has read all the new age material and she actually repeats a lot of it... since she sees herself as a expert, it's like yes she is an expert on new age ideas, she's obviously read all of them... she knows them inside and out... is that Te?
also idk... i don't fully understand the cognitive style articles, but LIE has VS cog, which is about synthesis... i think she kind of has synthesized all the ideas together into a body of knowledge... does she show DA cog??? i haven't watched enough vids and i may never, but nothing is ringing a bell.
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Well, the only thing I really don't like about her being my Supervisor is how easy it is for me to call her out on her bullshit- which to me seems much easier for Mirrors than a Supervisee doing it to a Supervisor. Unless maybe I was just insecure and didn't like being supervised by her - but I'm not sure that's it lol. But like for example I think Lori Greiner is my supervisor and I'm more like 'ahhhh get away from me!' (runs away) To me Lori has more of a 'I eat IEI souls' face.
Then again idk- Aramas said that Supervisees should reverse-Supervise their Supervisors or something and also I did the same thing to Bill Gates I think and I'm sure he's LIE as well.
But besides that, I could see either type really.
Well I can tell you this much, I wanna fuck her.
All I can say about Teal Swan is that her content is not for me. I tried watching one of her videos, got bored, tried another, was still bored. She talks a lot, but I feel like she’s saying a whole lotta nothing.
I don’t know enough about her abuse allegations to have an opinion on that.
I wonder if it’s Ni that doesn’t resonate for you. I think she’s quite talented with it, but T is not really a concern for her. On a personal level she seems interesting, but I don’t think EIEs make for very helpful life coaches or preachers, despite their talent for creating audiences to listen to them. The sense of importance they sense they can’t easily untangle from the abstract and often symbolic/allegorical expression Ni is linked to, and so they have trouble creating generalizable rules from their occasional insights. I think the people who are most likely to get anything really constructive out of their “insights” are other intuitive types and especially intuitive thinking types, but unfortunately the worshippers/fanbase they attract when they go cult-mode tend to be SF types, probably especially Gamma SF, who appreciate the Ni but aren’t good enough with it themselves to realize not to take it too literally, and a weird unhealthy dynamic seems to emerge between them and the EIE that furthers the EIE’s self-aggrandizing tendencies.
I may be wrong about something or everything about this, of course; these are just my thoughts.
Lol, I don’t think she’s attractive. She isn’t my type. Though if I’m right about her type — I do tend to be more personally sympathetic to EIE than most when they go over the top/do something evil because of attention-seeking. As I hinted with Koresh — he objectively did a lot of terrible things, including fucking kids, but...I guess I can’t bring myself to condemn him on a personal level, because it feels like I get it — he wasn’t intentionally malicious so much as just caught up in his own drama, and if only he’d had a stabilizing presence to check him...well, that’s how I tend to feel about most EIE when they get in situations like this. And their attention-seeking/“narcissism,” if you want to call it that, doesn’t personally bother me much, which is another reason I’m less inclined to see them badly.
I think semiduals understand each other very well in some ways. Anyway, I don’t want to sound like I’m excusing anything like what you mention, and certainly not because I think she’s attractive, but if I seem too sympathetic to her given what she did or might have done, that’s why.
Yes she is, but she is genuinely a fraud. It is written all over the place.
Interviewer: "You like to share information that is twisted and one sided. Is that true?"
Teal: "What would you think if all information was clear and humanity continued on as usual. We would lose our precious BS detection ability which has been a very beneficial throughout our evolution. You see, I'll teach you how to think if you learn with me how to resonate with my vibrations. That way we can filter misinformation even before it hits our conscious. This the higher grade understanding that has been only accessible to our indigo and crystal children in our modern society. Humanity is loosing this gift due to heavy medication so I have to do this before it is too late."
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I just watched a video of hers and I can see why you say it's boring. From the video I watched she seemed to be talking about something of substance and I actually related to those things in my life but I don't know if it's her delivery, but something isn't right, something's missing.
Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome