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    The virgin-warrior/virgin-martyr is an sx 1 archetype. St. Joan of Arc and Sir Galahad are positive examples, and Mohamed Atta is a negative example.

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    Mike Pence's type is likely 1w2 sx/sp




    Hillary Clinton - 1w2 sp/so

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    SX/SO, 3 fix


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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtus_(virtue)

    Virtus comes from the aristocratic tradition in which it is a specific type of public conduct. It is really only applicable in the cursus honorum, certainly by the late republic at least. It is not a "private" virtue in the way that modern people might consider it. Valor, courage, and manliness are not things that can be pursued in the private sphere of the individual or the individual's private concerns. There could be no virtue in exploiting one's manliness in the pursuit of personal wealth, for example. Virtus is exercised in the pursuit of gloria for the benefit of the res publica resulting in the winning of eternal "memoria". According to D.C. Earl "Outside the service of the res publica there can be no magistratus and therefore, strictly speaking, no gloria, no nobilitas, no virtus".[4]

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    “In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function. We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.” - C. S. Lewis

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    "Fight the demons of this world..."

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    "'The world is against you, Athanasius!', the people screamed. The saint replied, 'Then I am against the world'."

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    Joseph Campbell - 1w9 sp/sx (ILI-Te)


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    he kind of looks how I imagine Sam Harris will when he gets old

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    Captain Smollett in the cartoon Treasure Island
    link with eng subtitles [39:30]
     

    I will be honest with you.
    I don't like this expedition.
    I don't like these sailors.
    And finelly... I don't like anything at all, sir!

    from his profile:
    Brutally honest, from which suffers.
    Atrocious temper.

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    Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev - 1w2 so/sx the sx-subtype



    exploring his inner 7




    Lindsay Shepherd - 1w2 so/sx (LII) interviewed by a 6w5





    Nasim Aghdam - 1w2 so/sx

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    Was Thanos a type 1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobus View Post
    pretty simple.

    saying you're being desexed is not sharing an emotion

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhtempus View Post
    Was Thanos a type 1?
    What? No! xD

    Thanos ILI 584 Sx/Sp.

    Well, if you mean the movie version, he needs to be fleshed out more. But still seems 8-fix, just more Social-minded.

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    sx 1

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    this is kinda vibing LII 1w9 - hp cog style




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    as LSE should be common for E-1

    "For example, when someone reacts poorly to a great critique that they give because they know it could help that person improve immensely, they might think, “If I wasn’t being effective in that area and didn’t know it, I would want someone to point that out to me!” They might not know or take into account that others don’t operate like they do. Others may view the TeSi’s version of helpfulness as hurtful.

    They can unintentionally hurt people they care about in the moment while trying to help, but upon reflection they’re likely to realize that they hurt the person. It can take a few tries for the TeSi to know how to rectify such situations. Because their main method of operation is quick, decisive efficiency, they aren’t as inclined to ruminate at length over what should be done, or to spend a lot of time thinking through how their words and actions will affect others.

    Fi is the small part of the TeSi that is quite vulnerable and sensitive. While others might view them as very blunt, outspoken people, inside they do have a soft heart. Their emotions, while perhaps uncomplicated, are felt very deep down. They don’t have very many emotional buttons, but when pushed, those they do have can bring them to their knees. Talking about their emotions - their innermost fears, their hopes, their love - may be quite difficult for the TeSi.

    [Note: the suggestive F is more childish, than soft - easier to hurt and make angree, easier to calm and merry by endearing words. Many of this happens on unconscious level, without clear understanding.]

    If they are uncomfortable with this softer side of themselves, they will probably ignore it, which can lead to ruthless and cold behavior towards even those they care about. TeSi’s should be wary if they have a tendency to ignore their morality and emotions.

    [Note: in long-time surroundings where there is the lack of good and many bad for emotions - they become supressed and lesser conscious. This reduces the compassion to others and makes unreasonably rough and cruel. What then backhits - people do not want to agree with you and act lesser reasonably, lesser responsibly, may do sabotage.
    If surroundings become better - like appears a friend with pleasant base Fi emotionality - emotions become more conscious. This may to make you softer to people and better think about their emotional side, to rise personal respect to them as unique persons, but also you begin stronger feel emotional hurt, including from the problems which stayed unconscious.
    LSE do not ignore the formal morality with emotional supression, just become more rough and cruel.]

    Their morals are decided without too much influence from others, although they will take their experiences with others into account. The more experience they have with a person, the more they are able to understand how to interact with them in an effective and caring manner.

    [Note: as F is weak, - it's protected. But if you are emotionally pleasant, if you behave good, if you have inspired friendly feelings and got soul attraction - you'll get high influence on moral/emotional evaluations, as friend's personality is introjected and also this supports good relations with you. The too high load on T thinking or the lack of friends makes the emotionality supressed and emotional/moral evaluations higher protected from external influence in general - all is much evaluated from the side of reason and the use, like emotions are nothing and negative ones are justified discomfort. Such appears rude captiousness, the redundant inclination to anger. Experience may more help when emotions are not very supressed.]

    Ultimately, they value their own opinion the most. If they believe they are doing the right thing, they will be able to rationalize almost anything. This aspect of a TeSi’s personality can actually be a hidden strength. They can make advancements in areas that others might be afraid to venture into, because they aren’t worried about what others think of them. Their own interests and values can keep them going on the path towards their goal, even in the face of disapproval from those around them. TeSi’s aren’t likely to do something too far outside what their experience (or related experience of people they trust) has proved positive in the past."

    [Note: without emotional support may happen overburning.]

    http://www.typeinmind.com/tesi/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    as LSE should be common for E-1
    it should be a common typing for rational types, though for irrationals the existence of 1s has been disputed


    Tommy Sotomayor - 1w9 (soc?)




    Peter Attia - 1w9 (LII?)




    Dr. Joe Dispenza - 1w9 so/sp (SEI?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    it should be a common typing for rational types
    At least, for I*FJ should be rarely, as they remind E-9 which are rather opposite.

    Tommy Sotomayor - mb P

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    Jarrod Ramos is another IEE-Fi 1w9 sp/sx to toss into the bowl of fruit loops.

    Core Type One Motivation/Drive: Revenge

    Core Type One Passion: Wrath (hate)….hate is unresolved anger. In the fixation of wrath/hatred/resentment, the target of the 1's revenge drastically dilutes into a less specifically defined class while the ultimately punishment becomes significantly unbalanced.

    Although nobody can see inside Ramos' head, as far as the enneagram typology goes, its best to look for the principle of unity. The passion of Wrath sticks onto his behaviors and brings unity much better than the passions of the other types do.

    In Ramos' case, it began as anger with a newspaper publisher and he attempted to resolve it by filing a defamation suit. However, he lost and the anger went unresolved, to which the 1 becomes more obsessively fixated on. Unresolved anger then morphs into hatred and Ramos began to seek out substitutes for the initial cause of the anger. So it went from being one publisher at the Gazette he wanted to even up with to any body who worked at the Gazette. In the early phases of anger with the publisher/gazette, he simply wanted a retraction or compensation from a judicial court. As that went unresolved and devolved into the phase of hatred, he now wanted their lives.

    An alternative method for enneagram typing is to look for the "thing" the person puts their lives on the line for....where potentially trading in their lives for the chance to prevail is treated like a worthwhile deal....its hard to turn down whereas to other types it appears crazy. Hubris.

    For the 3w4, the hubris is deception. Rachel Dolezal a 3w4 was willing to ruin her career in order to deceive people as to her racial identity.

    For the 8, the hubris is power/might/supremacy. Death or imprisonment was worth it to Napoleon for an opportunity to fight and defeat all of Europe and be at the top of the mountain. The fabled boss of bosses, starting wars with and removing the competition. Acquiring greater might in the form of nuclear weapons was worth it for Saddam even if it put him at risk of extreme economic sanctions by the US.

    For the 6, the hubris is devotion...putting themselves on the line for those they are devoted too is worth it even if they end up getting hurt in the process or fall behind the 8 ball.

    For the 1, the hubris is wrath.....the quest for resolution of one's hatreds through revenge and punitiveness gives the 1's life meaning and purpose.

    ****** is the most obvious example of wrath and types as a 1w9 so/sp. The anger towards a few jewish people he was unable to resolve in his childhood eventually metastasized into a hatred for all jewish and virtually everybody but the German people.

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    One of the sad things E-1 understand that you need to keep the silence to be pleasant so people heard you later or did not broke the relations. You often will understand that the lack of your honest opinion is against of those people. But you need to be restrained and this harms those people. Especially it's awful when those people are valuable for you and you want to care about them. If you'll do what is good for them as your reason percives this - they may ignore and distance from you.

    This has the similarity with medics work. They need to do the pain, they concentrait your attention on the suffering and unplasant healing, and hence are associated with all that pain - as the result people do not like medics. To be E-1 is to feel yourself like those medics. Unlike medics which need to do pain only at work, E-1 do the significant pain to people near them, to ones the feelings of which they do not want to harm at all but often see this as needed for the interests of those people. E-1 often see the relations of people to them as unjustiful. Often this inclines to worse perception and feelings to people in general, the supressing of own feelings to feel lesser of emotional pain from people. E-1 need to treat people like children and do not feel as offenced to them, to forget them always, to do not supress own feelings - to keep the normal character and so to do not harm the relations more than they'd could, and be able to help people better being closer to them.

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    Bill Watts...LSE-Si 1w2 so/sp



    Margie Phelps...LSE-Si 1w9 so/sp

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    as E1 motto can be the one of Russian airborne forces
    "No one besides us"

    The example.
    On the embankment's boulevard, where I walk regularly in recent time, goes many people everyday. There are a couple of trees which one's branches were too low upon the boulevard. So people needed to incline their heads to avoid those branches.
    It's the Summer's middle and that was the problem for thousands of people which walked there since April, for many ones walking there regularly.
    I spend about 30 minutes to break the ends of those branches so now they do not prevent normal walking on the road.
    Normally it should be checked and done by town's services, but they did their work badly. People had the problem which was easy to fix but for monthes no one besides me did the evident solution which is good for all.

    Enneagram books recommend for E1s to relax and reduce a criticism and tries to control anything. But sometimes only we pay the attention on problems, they significantly annoy only us, and hence only we practically care about fixing the issues important for many ones but which other people just tend to ignore. If we'll relax - we'll feel better, but the world may become some worse. We can be hard for others by the character and this often harms our relations and life, but it's the sacrifice we give to care about the ones which hate us in return. To find problems and to press people to fix them and to be pleasant for them - are the opposite tasks, and anyone wants us to be good in both. It's often hard to find the balance. It needs us to grow as persons all the time through the emotional pain of bad relations which develops our compassion to other people, to better find the ways to do what is needed and to keep them as not offenced on us.

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    Cory....EII-Fi 1w9 sp/so



    Jason....IEE-Fe 1w9 sp/so



    Vladimir Putin...LSI-Ti 1w9 sp/so


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    David Kiersey….ILI-Te 1w9 sp/so


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    Ian Smith: ESI-Se 1w9 sp/so

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    Vegan Gains - sp/sx 1w2 - (ESI?)



    this Pastor Anderson guy - sx/so 1w2 - (LxI?)


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    holly anger

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    Cornerstore Caroline...ESI-Fi 1w9 sx/so



    Harlan Ellison...ILE-Ti 1w9 sx/so



    https://stackemup.livejournal.com/2646.html
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    Roland Martin....SEE-Se 1w2 sp/so



    https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/see-se/

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    Abby is actually a great example of a 2 often mistaken for an 8, 3 or 1. She says gives compliments, looks at the audience when complimenting Wendy instead of at Wendy, etc...that is the defense strategy is all 2. Compliments

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