Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteButterfly View Post
The "Personality Types" enneagram book by Don Riso links the jungian function attitudes to enneagram like so:
personally I think this is a better correlation than the one on http://tap3x.net/EMBTI/page9.html that I posted before (http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1080069)

so again, if you take these function attitudes to be the same as socionics functions, and each type to be their BASE function

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@Aylen @Spider @Myst what do you guys think? is this a better correlation?
Uhh, I don't see the point in playing with correlations mindlessly. Especially when trying to make them about concepts that are no longer fully directly linked to tangible reality. Where do you get with such playing? (Rhetorical question.)


Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
Socionics Se is about grasping qualia. That's it! I don't even consider socionics to be a true personality typology....and need not be treated like one. Cognitive functions don't have any foundation in distortions, world views, deeper drives, or the like. They're just blocks. My feet provide me with a function. I can walk on 'em. Socionics Se and the other functions are sorta like the cognitive feet. They try to get at ways people walk through reality/world...competently (and some blindspots). Courtney Love grasps something about Kathleen hanna's face and punches her in it....madonna grasps the same thing and then befriends her. One is no less Se than the other. They process the same information but then covert it differently, at a more core level. As a matter of fact....the easiest way to distinguish between socionics and enneagram is to compare courtney love (8w7 sx/so SLE-Se) with Madonna (3w4 sx/so SLE-Se). The ways they are similar pertain to socionics/stacking. Ways different pertain to enneagram....roughly.
You'd wish two quite restricted theories covered everything about the causes for the differences between those two women. Nope. Not even "roughly".

Also funny how here you say socionics Se is just about qualia when you also keep harping on about how it's also linked to willpower and whatever other stereotypical traits that get linked to Se by socionics fans. Enjoy your contradictions lol