Tired of Kill4Me's unsolicited retypings of me behind my back - so discuss here.
Anyone who has alternative typings of me can post in this thread. @Kill4Me especially: I hear you're typing me IEE, I would like to hear your reasoning for that because you never replied to my PM's. Thank-you
PS: ouronis asked why I think Kill4Me is doing this, well the answer is very simple, I've had several people over the weeks come to me with this that "Are you ILE? IEE? Kill4Me thinks so"
Last edited by Myst; 02-18-2015 at 12:47 AM.
My motives are simple, bring this out in the open instead of private messages going around.Originally Posted by William
It seems you have mixed motives. Is the goal of this thread 1. To out Kill4Me and A. get him in trouble or B. get him to stop retyping you behind your back, or is the goal of this thread 2. as an honest type-me thread that you want feedback for your type?
For #1, have you spoken with moderators about your personal issues with this person before going after them publicly? For #2, I don't have much personal interaction with you yet or gotten a chance to really think of your type yet, but on the surface I see no conflicting evidence with the SLE self-typing.
He (or whoever else) can retype me as he wants to his heart's content but do it here. It's that simple really. I did tell him that I was going to make a thread on it if he continued ignoring me in private message.
I don't mind seeing opinions on my type, sure. Thanks for your input btw
PS: I don't see how this is to do with moderators because I don't think they moderate private messaging/private groups? Otoh, I did ask mu4 about the appropriate forum section for this.
Last edited by Myst; 04-07-2015 at 03:23 AM.
People can retype you wherever and whenever they wish.My motives are simple, bring this out in the open instead of private messages going around.
He (or whoever else) can retype me as he wants to his heart's content but do it here. It's that simple really. I did tell him that I was going to make a thread on it if he continued ignoring me in private message.
I don't mind feedback for my type, sure. Thanks for your feedback btw
PS: I don't see how this is to do with moderators because I don't think they moderate private messaging/private groups? Otoh, I did ask mu4 about the appropriate forum section for this.
It's fine as long as they are willing to talk to me and provide their reasoning if asked. Which is what I took an issue with.
I see no reason to doubt Myst's typing as SLE-Ti.
LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP
Is this KillForAnyone the official SLE benchmark of this site?..
You know yourself better, so trust your guts.
myst why do you even need this thread
This thread has so much potential, don't let me down
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a response. I have battled-typed with him before, no fun.Ok, it was actually a lot of fun at the time...enjoy. Learned a lot about intertype relations and socionics from him and a few others.
I have no clue on your type since I haven't talked to you but SLE for kill4 seems legit. Don't use him as an exemplar though.
I think retyping others behind the scenes is pretty common around here. People don't usually go back and tell the retyped they have been retyped 'cause it's just speculation, usually and not meant for human public consumption. I probably would start a thread too if something was being discussed openly about me and I wasn't part of it.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
LOL no. I'm not doubting my typing btwbut I do want to hear from others if they have opinions.
Which reason of mine was unclear?
This thread has so much potential, don't let me down
Hey I absolutely don't mind battletyping
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a response. I have battled-typed with him before, no fun.
I have no clue on your type since I haven't talked to you but SLE for kill4 seems legit. Don't use him as an exemplar though.
I think retyping others behind the scenes is pretty common around here. People don't usually go back and tell the retyped they have been retyped 'cause it's just speculation, usually and not meant for human public consumption. I probably would start a thread too if something was being discussed openly about me and I wasn't part of it.but I want to have direct communication about it. And yep about your last sentence.
I have little doubt about sle for you.
People will talk about people on this site. @William moderators will in general not mod based on what people pm each other with (unless the participants complain) gossip is not punishable.
as for k4m; @Myst: some people will listen to him some won't. He'll lose interest eventually and people usually will take battle typings with a grain of salt. Fighting him might be your first instinct but it'll lead to unsavorably threads with more attention than warranted. The last time this happened we ended up with a thread full of dead wolve pictures that nearly made my cry :'(
No, he's some sort of EJ high on the narcissist spectrum imo
He's kinda of a wannabe badass
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
SLE, probably D sub, E8
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
BTW I agree with your typing of Beta ST @Myst but I don't get why you would bother about randoms having a different opinion on your type, some people don't have reasons or are just weird.
I sort of envision you as this person:
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Just really vocal and funny, with a twisted sense of humour. I could see you laughing if someone fell in the snow. You like to press for answers from others, seek to shake people up and get them engaged (in the convo, not with you!).
You also seem to have a sort of "innocence" that I see from SLEs. NOT naivety, just a sort of "kid with his thumb in the pie" light heartedness. You are also very polite, yet not dainty.
As well, there is this very systematic side to you where you discuss complex socionics topics. I would be very keen to see more of you ideas.
Last edited by wacey; 02-18-2015 at 07:43 PM.
Lol, I wonder how it got to the wolves pics.
So, hm, more attention than warranted? Who decides how much attention is warranted?Especially on this site?
OK, to turn serious... I don't think a little debate will kill anyone. Tho' so far I don't see that happening from the side of the original perpetrator.
I think I already clearly explained that I don't mind different opinions, what I do however mind is the lack of open direct communication, for several reasons. Idk sure some people are maybe just weird but I don't like to make assumptions. Thanks for your input btw & everyone else, I clicked constructive for all the typing inputs if I didn't have anything to say
Interesting observations, thanksTrue that, about the part you put in brackets, I found it funny how you added it separately.
Btw as for ideas, if you got any questions or anything, you can just ask and then we can get into that.
And oh, I kinda do look like that pic. A lot of things about her face is similar to me (even if not everything), good guessing there or did I send you any pic of mine, I don't remember
If you didn't know already, its Ygrette, from the Game of Thrones.
I feel that you're either sle or lsi. Kill4me is sle. He's probably trying to pull your strings to get a sense of what you'll say or do.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Myst is ILE 3w4 so/sx. That much I'm sure of. FoxOnStilts, same: ILE 3w4 so/sp. They can be similar at first glance to SLE but in circumstances where a SLE will dominate/force or not even give a fuck about Myst's go-to response is to try and clear up/explain/prod/innovate.
The degree to which Se is used may differ from your own and also gender may play a part in it too. I gather that you're trying to make out as many of her properties as you can frkm your paticular kind of nudging. I'm not certain that I see much Ne at work since Ne is exceptional at penetrating into the properties of items and they don't need any help with that. She asks me and a lot of other people for info which I feel is so often done by Lsi but if she's ti sle she could look and act very much like lsi. Her humor and light heartedness despite challenges towards her type speaks of someone who is very willful. I'm surw she's Beta
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
That is the default, identybro.
When I said I sometimes poke people, to get them to expose what was behind their public persona, you called it malicious to push someone's defined boundaries (even though I was not talking about you) but here it's just a "particular type of nudging". Maybe Myst also has boundaries. No need to defend yourself since I know what you said to me only applies to you and how someone should not behave toward you.
If you think I am being cruel right now please think about taking your functions in for a tune-up because I'm not. Just learning my socionics...from a pro. It is refreshing to see that you have such an understanding and patient nature toward your conflictor though, I have also been known to show the same consideration toward my conflictor, on the forum, before and that had a couple of people convinced I was an EII based on stereotypical intertype relations, according to this theory.
Edit: I don't think he is trying to make out anything about her properties. He has pretty much decided on what he has already seen. He isn't asking questions. He's making statements.
Last edited by Aylen; 02-19-2015 at 12:27 AM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Lol string pulling, huh, I don't need that way of manipulation from anyone.
Ahahah hey there!
Er, and where were you ever dominating or using direct force, or even talk directly to me in the Se way, instead of speculating about my type behind my back? Lol. Which is not something I tolerate in the particular way you were doing it.
Anyway thx for finally appearing and explaining some of your thoughts.Which, by the way, can be done by Se egos too, having enough intelligence to focus on explanations is not a privilege to Ne egos.
You know, there is sweet Ti to do clarifying, explaining, and all that. Don't mix up IE's like that.
Well I actually have considered Se-LSI but I don't think I'm a Rational type. It's true my Ne sucks though enough to be LSI
And why would I need to run to a moderator with every little issue?
Why not LSE?
Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I think she just wants me to respond to her. You know how e3s can get about their types. Here….check out these private messages she’s been sending me. the irony is it starts with her soliciting my opinion about her type. As you can see I never even clicked them let alone read them. heh. I even skipped over her posts in this thread. Too many Ne-manipulations for my taste and she’s got a big imagination to boot….never came across anybody this insecure over their official k4m branding. The main difference between her and Ineffable (ILE 7) is that Ineffable chased people around about their types whereas she chases people around about her type….a subtle 3 versus 7 distinction but the use of Ne to 'innovate' socionic concepts is identical. And from the PM title it appears she used the 'threat' of this thread to try and manipulate me into responding to her in private message…that’s extremely desperate behavior....not to mention a ban-worthy offense. I’m done reading this thread. Just ignore her/it.It seems you have mixed motives. Is the goal of this thread 1. To out Kill4Me and A. get him in trouble or B. get him to stop retyping you behind your back, or is the goal of this thread 2. as an honest type-me thread that you want feedback for your type?
For #1, have you spoken with moderators about your personal issues with this person before going after them publicly? For #2, I don't have much personal interaction with you yet or gotten a chance to really think of your type yet, but on the surface I see no conflicting evidence with the SLE self-typing.
Last edited by Kill4Me; 04-12-2015 at 02:04 AM.
@Kill4Me, I reported your post, as I find revealing stuff from PMs pretty low. (Not to be mistaken for siding with Myst on the type opinion, btw. It's a general thing)
As for your opinion, Myst could be ILE or LSI or delta ST even, but SLE isn't the worst typing. I suck at typing SLEs, so I might be wrong.
Do you want a serious type discussion, Myst? Then make a less aggressive/less opinionated post about it. That would probably be a good place to start (unless, of course, you want the drama).
Last edited by Ananke; 02-19-2015 at 07:21 AM.
I sent the first PM when I heard from someone that you sent a PM to them about my type, without any reason or anything. (Which then later happened again and again.)
Now why didn't you dare to read my PM's or my posts in this thread, I cannot imagine. "Ne-manipulations" sounds like bollocks to use as a reason.
No I didn't want you to reply in PM once I posted this thread. Has nothing to do with desperateness or being insecure over "official k4m branding", wtf is that even.
You are making way too many assumptions about my motivations and they are very off the mark, why don't you try to verify your assumptions first before taking them as reality?
Last edited by Myst; 02-19-2015 at 10:29 PM.
SorryWhy not LSE?
I just can't understand why you insist on people responding to you.
Have you never had this happen to you?
Did you really see any Ne in me? Heh if you did, don't worry about posting about it, tell me
No I've got no problem with heated arguments as long as it stays logical.... can also be funny and whatnot, sure
"This" = people running away, using ignore tactics, whatnot? Yes I've always had trouble understanding why some people can't pull themselves together and talk directly to me instead of other people if they have a problem. @Kill4Me clearly got some problem too
Last edited by Myst; 02-19-2015 at 10:47 PM.
Me too.
My point exactly.
@Myst I have no problem with you being Beta ST, as far as I've talked to you, but I would also seriously consider e3 as core type for you. It's hard to imagine e8 opening a thread like this (I can very much relate why you feel offended or hurt or whatever, but it's all really so insignificant at the end of the day ; ))
If you were prodding me with PMs where I didn't want to talk to you and then made a public thread about me i'd be pissed off as well.
But there has been some good out of it
Irony, is a bird.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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