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I'll believe it when I see one
I do believe in aliens
I don't believe in aliens
I think we have made contact with aliens, the government knows, and they aren't telling the public
I've seen a UFO/alien
The men in black told me I can't say anything
I am an alien
I think aliens could actually be gods, angels, demons in history
Aliens could be responsible for missing link
Aliens could be real/we haven't made contact and/or it's not intelligent
Aliens have made contact/government isn't hiding anything
Other
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Do I believe aliens exists? Like illegal immigrants... Sure. Like alien vs predator... No. Is it possible there is life on other planets... Yes. Is it possible they have contacted us and the majority of us don't know... Not very likely.
I will explain my votes later, maybe. since the reasons I voted, the way I did, is probably not what you may think. It is more of an "inner" experience.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Do you mean aliens in general or aliens that have already visited earth? Specifically the theories that religious figures were aliens? Then moving onto aliens mixed their DNA with bonobos to create humans? As I think that is what ancient aliens refers to.
If so then no but they make entertaining stories until the brainwashing stalwarts get onto it.
I think it's very likely organic compounds from comets/meteorites have reached earths and have perhaps introduced extra-terrestrial organic substances into the ecosystem, I won't believe intelligent aliens have reached earth, but there's a good bit of evidence and statistically its' quite possible in the last few hundred million years something of a life form hit this planet via a comet/meteor.
To super advanced extraterrestrials, I say doubtful. I suppose it's possible, but considering the age of the universe, it would be fantastical for life of that intelligence to have evolved in the 13 some billion years since the Big Bang.
Alien animals and species comparable to homo sapiens, I can believe it.
If amino acids can spontaneously form from organic molecules and propagate with fecundity on our planet, then in all likelihood it has done so on others. But no, I do not think that aliens have had a hand in any human culture ever. I've seen that guy's TV show, and all he asks are leaning questions with no real merit. Its all pure rhetoric.
Would be so amazing though, to encounter another species that is conscious of its own consciousness and reaches out across the empty universe to find other life. I think they would have had to solve the distance problem, as the known upper absolute limit in physics is the speed of light, and light is not fast enough to travel within the parameters that life must follow, which is another set of laws in physics.
Just private.
Yes they exist, and they need to know that Jesus died for their sins.
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There's that possibility. My thought is yes, until proven otherwise. Not seeing them doesn't mean that they don't exist, so I tend to dismiss "but you haven't seen them, so you're a loon for believing" comments that some throw out -- isn't it just as loony to claim the knowing the 'truth of non-existence' when you yourself have no evidence?
I don't believe in the existence of anything outside my own town.
Of course it does, but not directly as you are insinuating.
Just by the improbable fact biological life has occurred on Earth means statistically speaking the spontaneous ordering of hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and carbon must have occurred numerous times on alien worlds throughout the Universe's history. Why? Because of the sheer volume of life supporting planets that actually exists in the known Universe. Some of them have been discovered in recent years.
If life arose here than in all likelihood it is actually a very common event, we just don't have the ability to perceive life's ubiquitous nature because we are limited by our natural faculties, such as sight, smell, intelligence as well as our technologies. These can extend our ability to investigate other worlds with vision never before seen, such as viewing the universe through a gamma ray, radio, or ultraviolet telescopes. Maybe some day we will have the capacity to directly observe organized organic matter on other worlds, but for now we rely on common sense: because life occurred on our planet, against all odds, then in fact it must be quite a resilient enough phenomenon to have occurred on other planets as well.
And when did I say human life exclusively? Why could not an alien life form evolve by process of natural selection and develop higher forms of intelligence, such as developing the ability to alter its own genetic destiny, or alter the physics of its planets and space to further their own evolution?
Humans are not the center of the universe, we are just a highly evolved form of great ape that likes to be clever. Is it not incredible that a form of life reaches out into space and ponders its own existence? Its incredible, actually.
Curiosity might not be the exclusive property of mankind.
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Americans are the real aliens in what was Northern Mexico.
of course it doesn't....your argument is remarkably dumb.
picture an eskimo in the arctic saying: "there's polar bears here....that increases the likelihood of there being polar bears in other parts of the world."
see how stupid....your blind optimism isn't common sense and doesn't effect statistical likelihoods.
I did this before and scored higher. My interests have changed somewhat. hahah
http://pleiadesx.com/starquiz.htm
How Did You Score? Auto-Computed Score from above: 82
40 + ... You may have some ancestral roots in the Pleiades
50 + ... You have some cousins out there
60 + ... They are 1st cousins
70 + ... You will be, or have been, contacted ~ do not be afraid -- it was for a family reunion.
80 + ... You will have a special place in the 5th world, prepare for it.
90 + ... Start preparing NOW! In some way they will connect you to your purpose.
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I was in chat once, a few years ago. I think it was around the time Nibiru was supposed to either pass or hit earth. I forget the specifics. Everyone was talking about how they would react and this guy said he would make a sign that said "HithereNibiru" and hold it up in his front yard. It was a typo and I read it as "hit here Nibiru" so I asked why he wanted it to hit us. He said it was supposed to read "Hi there Nibiru". Not sure why that has stuck in my memory. I found it funny at the time.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Polar bears are remarkably specific. Of course there are no polar bears in other parts of the Universe!
However, the basic chemistry that caused life to occur on Earth is extremely common. The base biological elements are found in abundance everywhere in the Universe. Astronomers are discovering planets that have liquid water, AND oxygen. Carbon and hydrogen are basically the most common form of matter in the Universe...so, you have all four of these elements, then no its not blind optimism, its realistic pragmatism that life exsists elsewhere.
Your stupid rebuttal is incredibly myopic.
Planet Earth is a typical rocky planet in a typical planetary system, located in a non-exceptional region of a common barred-spiral galaxy. Are you familiar with the concept of mediocrity?
"if an item is drawn at random, from one of several sets of categories, its likelier to come from the most numerous category than from anyone of the less numerous categories ".
This principle is what I am suggesting when I say there is nothing very unusual about the evolution of our solar system, the Earth, organic life, humans. The idea is to assume mediocrity, rather than starting with the assumption that the phenomenon of life is somehow special, privileged, exceptional or unique to this planet alone.
I scored 83. I believe in a lot of unorthodox things.
I believe they exist, though not as intensively as I used to. sightings/contact are generally unreliable, not just because there are government projects which have overlap, but I still think there's something to them (although being abducted by greys is another matter). generally I would assume intelligence relatively superior to our own, and modes of communication/travel that exceed the bounds of our senses/normal perception.
I experienced something like contact when tripping 2ce for the first time. after about a capsule and a half, I basically reached a point of consciousness where I couldn't even seriously conceive of death, it was as if I was coasting on this kind of para-platonic level where all there was was pure, unadulterated reality. anyway I soon began seeing vivid shapes and figures forming, more as shadows/apparitions than actual objects, but what stood out to me was a weird, almost invasive sense of recognition... I don't know how to explain it other than consciousness recognizing itself. and that carried on, on and off, for about thirty minutes.
other than that I've seen a handful of UFOs, but am hesitant to believe they were (all) of alien origin.
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We live in the outer regions of the galaxy, far away from the interior. The interior is older than the periphery and has a denser concentration of stars; assuming that these conditions are amenable enough for a greater concentration of life to emerge, it's our best bet for finding civilizations that are more advanced than we are.
Further away from core, closer to the edge of the galaxy, we're more likely to find younger and less advanced civilizations than us.
re: "statistics" and "math"
we are not the masters of the universe and our current understanding of nature on that scale ranges from extremely limited to delusional. how much do you think we know about other planets in our solar system even? embarrassingly little. we are still figuring out how black holes actually work. no idea why gravity decides to randomly defy the norm sometimes in far off objects / what dark matter or dark energy is / whether the universe is expanding or not. no idea whether carbon-based life is the only form of life that can exist, and what environments would it thrive in. you would think a species so advanced that they can make blanket statements about life being a statistical necessity would know these rudimentary facts about the universe, but hey math. alright.
Can they bring me food?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I used to believe aliens don't exist, but then I started believing in socionics so...
things I now believe to [possibly] exist:
-enneagram
-a weird spiritual order to the universe
-afterlife ?
-aliens (??!)
50:12 We created man. We know the promptings of his soul, and are closer to him than the vein of his neck.
86:11 For every soul there is a guardian watching over it. Let man reflect from what he is created. He is created from an ejected fluid that issues from between the loins and the ribs.
and that's from the Koran? way to put us in our place. kinda harsh.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
its always bugs me why most people who believe in aliens or whatever-its-out-there, thinks they are anthropomorphic. Like, what if they are like... wasp-alien-form of silicon or simply created from other elements. Anyway, I do believe in life outerspace. Source: I'm an alien (?).
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Aliens fucked monkeys and here we are.
OMG only when they bring me pizza
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Perhaps we should first establish if there is intelligent life on earth.
always start your argument with a healthy dose of confirmation bias.
if we're counting arbitrary quantities why not include asteroids, moons, and dwarf planets, some of which fall technically under our definition of "habitable", and exclude gas giants which technically could never host life? questions questions.
slow down carl sagan.
castles in the sky, because you don't understand how statistics work (see above) and you are basing your entire argument on a faulty premise. i get the general idea you're trying to convey, but i'm not forgiving that creative Ti of yours to get something so rudimentary so so wrong.
yeah and there's an invisible immaterial unicorn dancing on my table but you can't touch, feel, sense or smell it. okay.
sure, i am still making logically sound arguments with a basis in empirical facts.
not interested.
Scientifically, there isn't any way to know what the percentage of life would be elsewhere in the universe without actually finding life elsewhere in the universe. We may in fact never know.
Current estimates only look at earth like environments but we do not even know what the chance of life is in earth-like environments. So far it is 100%, but that is obviously a biased percentage. Is it 1/2, 1/100, 1/1,000,000,000,000? Again, we will probably never know.
Besides, there may be life forms that have evolved from unearth-like conditions. This is pretty hard to fathom and there is no way to accurately estimate a percentage.
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung