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    @Aylen, we seem to have quite a bit in common ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    @Aylen, we seem to have quite a bit in common ^_^
    So much in common that the first day you joined I thought you were a troll account mocking me and some of my beliefs. I was caught up in some forum drama then so I was so happy and relieved to see your video and know you were real. You had me at "imagination"...

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    awwww! that's such an adorable thing ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    The id, with us since birth.
    Yeah but what did you mean by "Introverted ethics in ego block's that value it is fluid, ever changeable informational element that can and does respond to the outside environment in dynamic and responsive ways."

    What kind of "dynamic way"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Words View Post
    What if they are dualised with an LSI who isn't reliable?
    That sounds like hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    I think I see your point and could have rephrased that part to be more nuanced. I flipped those statements around very quickly because I was irritated. Reason being, I found your OP to be judgmental while disavowing judgmentality such as by using the word "looks" repeatedly.

    For example, stating that Fe people are often ostracized, as if that's a matter of fact and particular to them as opposed to other people, is . . . questionable. It doesn't fit my experience, at any rate.

    Anyway.

    I sometimes really like Fi people, and those I don't like I just hold at a distance. Things can go wrong if I'd rather stay away from an Fi person but through force of circumstance don't have that option.

    A worst-case interpretation is like this:

    Fi seems to see itself as highly stable and steady. But from the outside, it doesn't look like that to me. Instead it looks volatile.

    Not adaptable to externals --> pushed and pulled instead according to internal convictions. The disconnection from external facts leads to self-contradiction. Such as claiming to value being harmonious with people, even while fostering disharmony without realizing it.

    It looks like chaos to me. I can't know what to expect from the person. The driving forces are invisible and not derived from information I have access to. It doesn't match up with anything in my world.

    Where I do support your language of "looks" is that there's really nothing personal in this disconnection. This is hardly a revelation, but Fe and Fi just don't have much use for each other. They cover the same territory, but using different navigational equipment. I suppose an Fe person might evaluate an Fi person according to what s/he is actually looking for, which is Ti.

    Fe is a good compliment to Ti because Ti trades in internally formulated structures regarding reality but needs it warmed up and loosened up to connect with people as they are, messy and complicated and shifting. As for me, I'm always looking for something to cool down my boiling mess, and for ways to resolve ambiguity, and Ti is very helpful in that regard. Confront me with Fi and I'll get sunk in more and more complications.

    I assume some of these dynamics exist on the Fi/Te side too.
    Yes I can see this because Fi types get moody and do not know how to express what is going on the inside with actual words. Like I may feel discontent that my SO decided to go to Costco when I wanted him to not go for whatever reason and when he returns instead of saying "I'm pretty upset that you went" I show moodiness or long "don't talk to me face" This is a "call" to speak with me to understand that I'm truly upset...but that I've found no way to change the situation in him or her or anyone else. So what must be done? How does one deal with a situation that they can't control other? Control is a disease...why would you want to control? Just do what you want.
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    I think ethical types can get along very easily and a lot of the communication differences can be overcome as long as everyone is communicating in good faith. I think toxic self-absorbed ethical types can make things very difficult (as one could imagine).

    I related to everything Golden said above. I try to be accepting of Fi but in the end, I don't really want to think about it nor do I feel that I need to.
    With mind distracted, never thinking, "Death is coming,"
    To slave away on the pointless business of mundane life,
    And then to come out empty--it is a tragic error.
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