4w5 ESI
The second video shows a 4 - 8 dynamic, I guess.
Last edited by lynn; 06-10-2020 at 10:38 AM.
(w5)
4w3
Last edited by lynn; 07-12-2020 at 09:23 PM.
Is the lady in the add of the link dancing/exercising like an enneagram type 4?
I remember in the past coming across something which indicated this would be type 4’s most natural workout manner.
https://www.campaignasia.com/video/c...e-1980s/462199
Born with a void hard to destroy with love or hope
Built with a heart broken from the start
To other enneagram 4s (or anyone else who wants to respond) - how has the enneagram been useful to you in self-growth?
Last edited by necrosebud; 01-10-2021 at 12:23 AM.
The 4 personality mechanism feels so counterintuitive
Sorry if I'll sound ignorant or simplify too much as I'm not you and don't know your situation but don't you think you're overthinking and try to analyze yourself unnecessarily? That's my impression from your posts here. From my experience, thinking about why I'm the way I am and trying to find reasons for my problems doesn't solve anything and gives a fake sense of progress (I think I understood something about me or relations with someone but my life is still the same, just wasted time for thinking and unnecessary emotional discomfort). When I spend time doing things I like or something useful I feel better than when I focus on this kind of things. It's mostly about changing habits, learning how not to allow some thoughts to develop. Keep it simple
I feel a magnetic attraction towards some 8s. I wouldn’t say they are my ideal match, though potentially a passionate one. I don’t know what the 4+6 hype is all about, because IRL 6s are the e-type I find most difficult to get along with.
I’ve been consistently attracted to 7s and 3s.
Gerard Way from My Chemical Romance
I guess Braingel is this type, so the choice bandwidth of center heart photo perfect link to hazy liberty and counsel of blessed oak trees and brilliant legacies is all on the line!!
She takes mythic themes from high minded sagas and reinvents sacred plazas with spark and rhythm for apples and cardinals to grace the arena.
ORRE COLOSSEUM JUST GOT STARTED, AND KOBE IS REIGNING AS KING!!
It's Henry vs Zidane, France vs Spain in the 2024 Olympic soccer final, Egypt vs Japan, Yugioh vs Pokemon, Poimandres vs Zarathustra, Giordano Bruno vs Friedrich Nietzsche, haystack picnic robed in silver rods to treasures of lore and sacred spark to unite and forge dancing stars and futures refracting crystal moonlight lures of hanger bay crunching fabrics webbing steel and blizzards juice stringing code red trains of yonder fluid ribbons trophy waterfall cake blueprints frenzy retracting haunted capital terra horns of leading edge canopy blossoms rendezvous shuffling Articuno!!
RaptorWizard Sci-Fi Empire Lugia Bunny ~ Ultimate Aeon Willpower: Wes Net (the16types.info)
I try not to judge 4's. Ngl, it's hard.
4 has always been about that. It's basically all just one giant pity-party over self-induced problems. Most people don't realize what E4 truly is. The only thing that has evolved is your understanding of 4, most likely.
Personally, I might have issues with playing the rescuer role too much (to the point of neglecting my own needs), but even I don't have the patience for it. I'm like...if you want to be a victim and feel alone so badly, go play the victim by yourself. I'm not the rescuer you're wanting. I don't have time for people who want to stay where they are while griping about it.
IDK, I do value diversity and not discriminating, especially based on "types," but true E4s (not the ones who relate to the more well-known aspects) are the only type in any system that, if I'm honest, I can't stand. So much of the type just conflicts with my values, I guess. I hate weak self-victimization bullshit. It's utterly reprehensible in my eyes. I'm kind of like...well, yeah, good thing it's a shame type, as that is worthy of shame. Lol.
Sigh...every once in a while, I do try to look more into this type in search of opening my mind, gaining understanding, and trying not to hate the type so much. Instead, I only am reminded of why I have 0 respect for these qualities, and I angrily speak out against them. I don't know how to soften my heart toward this nonsense.
EDIT:
Fuck, I hope I never end up with an E4 kid...that's going to be a huge obstacle for me to overcome in order to be a better parent, if so...
Last edited by Fluffy Princess Unicorn; 01-25-2022 at 05:32 PM.
I realize my words can be offensive, but denying the truth doesn't change it, it just makes it stagnate in secret. If anyone thinks they have some way for me to gain compassion for this type, then by all means, I'm all ears. I'm simply not going to deny how I see it.
Speaking of stagnation...I find E4 and Se Ego to be a strange combination. As in, I question whether it's even possible. E4 is an incredibly stagnant type, and it's not focused on moving forward whatsoever. It aligns more with Se-suggestive, which needs a push from others, since 4's basically wait around for rescuers while being self-indulgent in/generating intensity of feelings.
4s and 3s rule ur just used to solving problems by brute force and being intelligent instead of having to better and grow urself through trauma and repetitious ego deaths by spiritual rape. this also comes from Ne PoLR probably where u dont consider the people u are walking over that would take a toll on ur consciencen that would result in the ego deaths. i dont know if all the ESIs are like this but ones i know are so self absorbed and need to take things too far AND end up not changing their god damn mind anyway.
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
not using whatever's available to cause collateral damage to someone who won't be able to deal with it, based on established structures of assholes who dont want to move their fcking ass from what doesn't belong to them > self induced problems.
thats how psychopaths also refer to conscience.
having bad intuition is not an excuse to deny the reality u dont perceive.
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
It's one thing to misunderstand where I'm coming from or what I'm talking about, but don't accuse me of sociopathic behavior just because you can't see my point of view. Especially when I'm literally sitting here talking about how I'm trying to understand 4s better. It's a gross exaggeration and misrepresentation. I get that you feel offended so you're reacting emotionally in all of that, so I'm not taking it personally...besides, I've learned by now not to take anything you say personally...but go back and re-read my words: I have consistently come from the angle of being honest/transparent about my views while saying I find them wrong because I do not agree with discrimination. Take a look at my phrasing, I'm very careful with my words. I've talked about it being something *I* would need to overcome if I ever had an E4 kid, I've invited help in seeing things differently than I do. Your responses are just emotionally lashing out, which is understandable, but also isn't helping anything. Maybe try to use some communication skills to share your perspective instead, it'd go much further than obviously baseless claims that compare expressing my stance honestly, yet also saying it's wrong and inviting alternative insights, to sociopathy. I can tolerate some emotional lashing out, but that sort of character assassination is a rather extreme overreaction to what I've said.
Last edited by Fluffy Princess Unicorn; 01-25-2022 at 08:40 PM.
i appreciate ur efforts and i dont accuse u completely if that makes sense. there are flaws in everyone. it is sociopathic or wrong or whatever words u want to use in the borders it is in. i can use thoes words. of course there's more to someone's views that give the relevant broader context. i dont mean that u are sociopathic or only sociopathic. even people with ASPD vary between each other in how they are in that. i was refering to the mentality not your holistic character. i didnt quote u on purpose bc i perceived ur intentions and didnt see it necessary to talk to u about it, because we've talked about it before, and i dont know what more to tell you. i think i get u so far. i just wanted to throw my words out there.
u can describe it as emotionally lashing out, and i can describe urs as repressed emotions due to wounded inner child that u may project on others as their weakness. its what it seems to me, in case u or someone goes telling me i shouldnt be diagnosing people or expressing those ideas at all bc idk some people COULD (could in case u think its me trying to make yet more accussations) just figure they can tell me i cant talk about their issues as if i know them, but again, its a pattern, epxerienes and personalities that are relevant to many people by themselves. its just making guesses and associations. im not trying to tell u who u are or what ur experiences are.
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
I mean, I don't quite understand whatever your interpretation of my actions is, but my own mentality is pretty far from sociopathic either way. I've talked with psychs, etc, I am HSP, which is basically the opposite of ASPD.
EDIT
No idea why I'm being so defensive about this when I know I shouldn't even take it seriously. I guess I just am used to being a scapegoat and also being misunderstood as fuck, with people basically interpreting my good intentions as evil ones. Like...call out a manipulative person, trying to be a whistleblower, and get accused (by the very people I was trying to protect) of being manipulative/vindictive for calling them out...that kind of thing.
I've had one person I called out accuse me of being dark triad before, but...that same person also said E2 "demands to be abused," so clearly it's projection.
I get overly sensitive about being falsely accused and misunderstood. Maybe it's partly a 6 thing, also. Or, maybe I just work my ass off to go out of my way to be good to people, and hate the slap in the face of that being seen in some negative way that it isn't. Who knows.
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
Dunno if I agree with that...but I don't go around typing characters. Typology stays on the forums for me, mostly...once I log out, I don't type others. I generally understand people better than typology systems do, I don't need them. Jinx is too mentally ill to type imo anyway, though.
Last edited by Fluffy Princess Unicorn; 01-26-2022 at 11:25 PM.
I think they did a really good job portraying her enneatype. You can also VI it in non-verbal cues/ facial expressions (the e4 sad eyes).
I'm not only talking about adult Jinx (and her adult mental health issues), it's super obvious with Powder as well when she was young. Typical 4w5 kid.
Yes, ok, no spoilers...
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1