Some interview examples of possible 4s:
John Mayer - 4w5 sp/sx (ISFp)
Johnny Depp - 4w5 sp/sx (ISFj)
Jon Ronson - 4w3 sp/sx (SEI?)
Some interview examples of possible 4s:
John Mayer - 4w5 sp/sx (ISFp)
Johnny Depp - 4w5 sp/sx (ISFj)
Jon Ronson - 4w3 sp/sx (SEI?)
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Kimbra - 4w5 (so/sx ESI?)
Emilie Wapnick - probably 4w5 so/sx (EII)
Clan of Xymox Something wrong - 4w3 sp/so
Do you know me now?
When I let you fall
Do you know yourself?
When you’re going down
Do you know enough?
When you hit the ground
Do you feel the pain?
When you’re coming round
So what if you can’t stand it and you’re left in the dark
I simply don’t see you
Like you don’t exist at all
'cause, there's something wrong with you
There's something wrong with you
There's something wrong with you
There's something wrong with you
In this desolation
One day you will see
The still blue waters
So let it be
Intrigue and treason
Treachery and hate
Confusion blossoms
In the darkest place
How obvious are your motives
How simple are your thrives
All these fears and emotions
Lie hollow in your lies
Do you know me now?
When I let you fall
Do you feel the pain?
When you hit the ground
So what if you can’t stand it and you’re left out in the cold
All ties are broken
So I simply don’t care at all
'cause, there's something wrong with you
There's something wrong with you
There's something wrong with you
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
What you say is what most believe to be an unhealthy 4. It also depends on instincts and what you value most. You will never completely know yourself without the reflection of others because you will lack the experience to go any deeper. That is how it seems to work. Not every 4 wants to open their heart to others. Some go too far in the other direction... all the shades in between. There is not one true identity for all unless you go transcendental with it and even then I am not sure that is the case.Originally Posted by Fay
I can also create misery all by myself. I can wallow in it until I have had enough.On the other hand, what makes healthy Fours healthy is not that they have freed themselves once and for all from the turbulence of their emotions, but that they have found a way to ride that current to some further destination. Healthy Fours have learned to sustain their identities without exclusive reference to their feelings. By overcoming the temptation to withdraw from life to search for themselves, they will not only save themselves from their own destructiveness, they will be able to bring something beautiful and good into existence. If they learn to live this way, Fours can be among the most life-enhancing of the personality types bringing good out of evil, hope from hopelessness, meaning from absurdity, and saving what appeared to be lost.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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He kissed a guy and can perform... so?
Eh, I am pretty sure he is 4w3 Sx/Sp.
But I guess that's just me.Haha.
haha look
communicating and kind of representing himself well, comes very natural to him, unlike social lasts. social lasts have this kind of heavy energy to them.
What do you think is 4 about him?
Ummm....so everything eccentric and artistic (as in being a singer and singing about your feelz) is e4? No shit every other person types themselves 4. Wtf, he's too confident and exhibitionistic for a 4. 3w4 is often very eccentric. Anyway, if Adam weren't a 3, he'd actually be a 7 way before 4. so-last is also wrong.
3w4s are more verbal, liberal, amoral, and intuitive unlike their counterparts who have to absorb the superego influence of a 2 wing. They have more glamour about them due to the allure produced by the four wings' self-fetishizing. They sometimes traffic in the taboo and transgressive. They provoke others more for attention.
What's next? Shakira as e4?
^neither of them look like theyre actual fours
My first impressions, which could be wrong...
Left: 2w3, 297, sx first
right 6w5, 649 sp/sx
Not that confident in it since I would have to actually see more from them to get a good idea of their etypes.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Haruki Murakami
Born in Kyoto, Japan January 12, 1949
Websitehttp://www.harukimurakami.com
I am pretty sure he is a 4w5 IEI-Ni, leaning toward sx/sp>sp/sx If he isn't I want him to be.
I'm scared," she said. "These days I feel like a snail without a shell." "I'm scared too," I said. "I feel like a frog without any webs." She looked up and smiled. Wordlessly we walked over to a shaded part of the building and held each other and kissed, a shell-less snail and a webless frog.Sometimes when I look at you, I feel I'm gazing at a distant star.
It's dazzling, but the light is from tens of thousands of years ago.
Maybe the star doesn't even exist any more. Yet sometimes that light seems more real to me than anything.One heart is not connected to another through harmony alone. They are, instead, linked deeply through their wounds. Pain linked to pain, fragility to fragility. There is no silence without a cry of grief, no forgiveness without bloodshed, no acceptance without a passage through acute loss. That is what lies at the root of true harmony.But even so, every now and then I would feel a violent stab of loneliness. The very water I drink, the very air I breathe, would feel like long, sharp needles. The pages of a book in my hands would take on the threatening metallic gleam of razor blades. I could hear the roots of loneliness creeping through me when the world was hushed at four o'clock in the morning.Most things are forgotten over time. Even the war itself, the life-and-death struggle people went through is now like something from the distant past. We’re so caught up in our everyday lives that events of the past are no longer in orbit around our minds. There are just too many things we have to think about everyday, too many new things we have to learn. But still, no matter how much time passes, no matter what takes place in the interim, there are some things we can never assign to oblivion, memories we can never rub away. They remain with us forever, like a touchstone.Can'ttrustpeople. Won'tdoanygood. They'llkillyoueverytime. They'llkilleachother. They'llkilleveryone.Sometimes fate is like a small sandstorm that keeps changing directions. You change direction but the sandstorm chases you. You turn again, but the storm adjusts. Over and over you play this out, like some ominous dance with death just before dawn. Why? Because this storm isn't something that blew in from far away, something that has nothing to do with you. This storm is you. Something inside of you. So all you can do is give in to it, step right inside the storm, closing your eyes and plugging up your ears so the sand doesn't get in, and walk through it, step by step. There's no sun there, no moon, no direction, no sense of time. Just fine white sand swirling up into the sky like pulverized bones. That's the kind of sandstorm you need to imagine.
And you really will have to make it through that violent, metaphysical, symbolic storm. No matter how metaphysical or symbolic it might be, make no mistake about it: it will cut through flesh like a thousand razor blades. People will bleed there, and you will bleed too. Hot, red blood. You'll catch that blood in your hands, your own blood and the blood of others.
And once the storm is over you won't remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won't even be sure, in fact, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm you won't be the same person who walked in. That's what this storm's all about.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
IEI-Ni, DCNH-H, 4w5-9w1-5w4, sx/sp, Aquarius sun, Leo rising
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"From their lives, and not least from their greatest fault--their inability to communicate--we may understand one of the greatest errors of our civilization, that is, the superstitious belief in verbal statements, the boundless overestimation of instruction by means of words and methods."--C.G. Jung on the introverted irrational types
the "coolside" Sx/So 4 : Emilie Autumn Willow
Willow, weep for me
Bow your tallest tree
Down to the infamous hands
Of someone no one understands
I'm not unique in this
It's based on none but my mistake
At night I lie awake
Thinking of all the hearts I'd happily break
It's cruel I know
At least they tell me so
Well someone lock me up and throw away the key
Because I'm not ashamed, oh no Oh, willow
That I only write love songs
To those whom I don't love
I only reach for him
Who's tied to someone else's glove
That which I hold inside
Which I admire and deride
Which I protect and hide is yours
Willow, weep for me
Don't think I don't see
This life I'm living in two
But still it's something I must do
I'm not unique in this
Nor am I special, sweet or kind
I court a thousand smiles
Yet I keep my own to hide behind
It's cruel I know
At least they tell me so
Well someone lock me up and throw away the key
Because I'm not ashamed, oh no Oh, willow
Slander and distension
They're parlor games to me
Papers overrun with lies too mad to mention
You say they never hurt you
No consequence, I'm happy
We're much too far above it all
But oh no, that's not true
These wicked pastimes take their toll
These tyrant vices break your soul
Deliver me from all I am
And all I never want to be
I love you (Oh willow, willow, willow)
Doubt me not
Rewrite this plot for all to see
Bend your branches to the ground and hold me close
Let me harmonize with all we knew
Share your sympathy and weep for me
Oh, willow, heal the hearts I've broken
Make me pure and start my song anew
and here's the "ascetic" (strong sp) sp/sx 4w5 - Chris Corner / Simon Le Bon The Chauffeur
Out on the tar plains, the glides are moving
All looking for a new place to drive
You sit beside me, so newly charming
Sweating dew drops glisten, freshing your side
[CHORUS]
The sun slips down bedding heavy behind
The front of your dress all shadowy lined
And the droning engine throbs in time
With your beating heart
Sing Blue Silver
Way down the lane away, living for another day
The aphids swarm up in the drifting haze
Swim seagull in the sky
Towards that hollow western isle
My envied lady holds you fast in her gaze
And watching lovers part, I feel you smiling
What glass splinters lie so deep in your mind
To tear out from your eyes
With a word to stiffen brooding lies
But I'll only watch you leave me further behind
This is one of my theme songs. I used to dread sunny days. Now I am trying to allow the energy of the sun into my life but I still find them draining. I love rainy days. It washes away everything, even emotional pain, for a little while. I used to wish it would rain every day. Music really affects my moods when I immerse myself in it.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
The life of the
Sexual 4
"Love, Hate, Love"
I tried to love you I thought I could
I tried to own you I thought I would
I want to peel the skin from your face
Before the real you lays to waste
You told me I'm the only one
Sweet little angel you should have run
Lying, crying, dying to leave
Innocence creates my hell
Cheating myself still you know more
It would be so easy with a whore
Try to understand me little girl
My twisted passion to be your world
Lost inside my sick head
I live for you but I'm not alive
Take my hand before I kill
I still love you, but, I still burn
Yeah, Love, hate, love [3x]
Oooh, Love, hate, love
Yeah, Love, hate, love
I don't connect with most celebrities and the ones I do are usually dead (at a young age) and/or before my time. I feel I was born too late and missed out on their presence in the world (Jim Morrison for example). Layne is someone whose presence I got to feel, briefly, while he was still alive. I feel I know Layne Staley's soul from many past lifetimes. I am very sure of this. It's not just an emo thing. Although I like Kurt Cobain, and feel sympatico toward him, I do not feel a soul connection to him at all. I just don't "recognize" Kurt. He is not of my "soul group", or something like that. Layne and Jim are my "soul group". That is the best way I can explain it.
/confession
IOW, he is still a presence I continue to feel to this day and has had some influence on me both good and bad. It is like he isn't even gone when I watch a video. It just draws him nearer to my heart and conscious awareness
Edit: Not to sound too crazy but it is my strong belief that Layne is already back on earth, as it was not his last lifetime. He in a new body bringing the lessons he learned in that lifetime into the present. The personalities are similar but not exactly the same. The essence IS the same. He is still struggling but there is no danger that he will not take what he has learned and make different choices. He WILL choose a different path this time. Just call this a hunch. I am not a lunatic. LOL If I try to get a sense of Jim, I get no sense of where he is now. Nothing feels solid about him even when I focus to find his energy in the world. Maybe he chose to sit this one out. Anyone who lived during the 60s deserves a break. That was huge.
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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Nathan Barlowe - 4w3 sx/sp (Delta)
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Strong mix of e3 and e4:
This is the best description of 468 I've seen, in case anyone is considering this tritype.
Why are 468s so intense?All 468s, regardless of the order of the types in their Enneagram Tritype, have a strong innate sense of urgency. The 468 is the Enneagram Tritype that is comprised of the emotionally expressive type from each of the 3 centers: head (567), heart (234), and gut (891). As such, they are visceral and reactive. They respond immediately to any and all perceived threats, whether real or imagined.
Truth Teller
I call this Tritype the 'Truth Teller' because those with this Tritype feel an intense need to call off their view of reality and say that ‘the emperor has no clothes’ even if they will be chastised for saying it.
Biological Imperative
Think of the 468 viewpoints and responses as important biological imperatives. Everyone and every family and/or group needs those that will not delay and will act instantly in an emergency.
The Enneagram 468 defense strategy is uniquely designed to handle emergencies. Many professions, such as high-risk emergency medical services, require employees that are sensitive to the needs of others but are still are able to make life or death decisions straightaway and without hesitation.
The 468s have a finely tuned sense of emotional attunement and sense what others feel (4). They feel potential threats at a sharper pitch (6) than the other Tritypes. They also have a visceral experience of their emotions with an intense need to take immediate action (8) and voice their concerns (468). They are highly intuitive and are alert to imminent threats long before others. They are fiercely loyal and protective of those they love and whomever or whatever they care about. They are willing to speak their truth regardless of the consequences. They track their instinctual intuitions and warn others in an attempt to manage their own emotional distress.
Too Intense
Due to their emotional sensitivity and sense of immediacy, 468s tend to react immediately to whatever upsets them before they can stop and think about the best way to say something. There are times when their immediate reaction is essential and necessary but there are far more times when their style is perceived as far too much and expressed far too often. The reason for this is that the 468s can often react prematurely before they have all the facts. Due to their impulsivity, they also struggle with being able to stop and consider how they should deliver their message in a manner that others will respect and value.
The problem is that in a heightened emotional state 468s say things with a great deal of intensity. They can lose sight of what is called for and also what is in their own best interest. When they are emotionally upset and feel unheard they often become angry and can say things they really don’t mean. At these times, others see them as over the top and inappropriate. Ironically, the very same attributes that make them great in an emergency can make them appear emotionally out of control when there is not an emergency others can see. Having said that, the level of health of the 468 has a lot to do with how they voice their concerns, both what they say and how they say it.
When the 468s are stressed their reactivity increases. This intensity of emotion begins to diminish the value of what they are trying to address. To others, they are seen as complaining and crying wolf… Over time, if the 468 remains in distress, they will often lose the social skills needed for others to listen to what they have to say. If this continues, the 468s often become even more anti-social and can be so intense and belligerent that others will ignore them. Sadly, their concerns will go unheard and be invalidated.
Working with the 468
468s can have trouble identifying what is a true emergency and what just feels like an emergency. If their internal alarm bells go off, the 468s are in fight or flight. Once their emotions are triggered their adrenaline is running in hyper-drive and needs to be discharged. So it is extremely difficult for the 468 Tritype to slow down and delay reacting.
One of the best ways I have learned to help the 468s achieve a sense of equanimity or emotional balance is to know when to tell the truth and when not to.
The 468s see things in black and white. It helps if they can learn to see the value of gray. They are highly emotional and intuitive. As a result, they see problems far in advance of others. If their concerns are not addressed they continue to assert the merit of their concerns. In their attempt to convince others that their views are accurate they can alienate others. Teaching the 468 how to communicate their concerns without alienating others is paramount.
Unbeknown to the 468 is their need for others to act on their concerns in order for them to feel safe. They secretly feel disempowered and emotionally dependent on others. What they have not recognized is that they can validate their concerns even if others do not. In a sense, they can become their own trusted authority. They can acknowledge the part of themselves that is feeling panic and learn how to self-soothe regardless of what others are doing. When they can identify and acknowledge their fears and validate their concerns they will feel less of a need for others to act in accordance with their concerns. When they act as their own agent, their feelings of intensity and immediate action will begin to slow down.
468s tend to see their fears in exaggerated ways; large, loud and looming, and in vivid color. This intensity of the senses helps the 468s react in an emergency but when there is no real imminent danger this intensity cause the 468s to feel panic and distress. 468s can learn to recognize the beginning signs of being on guard. They can learn to feel their muscles tighten, their eyes widen, their jaw lock and their hands roll into a fist. Physical alertness can warn them that they are ready and poised to act. They can then learn how to interfere with this primal response to stimuli and use strategies to minimize the intensity of the reaction by shrinking the images, fading the intensity of the colors of the images, turn down the volume that says act now and slow their pulse. Conscious attention to these innate impulses can reduce the level of their reactivity.
Transformation through Insight
Intellectual understanding of their process can help the 468s before their impulses are on red alert. They can learn to appreciate why they feel the way they do as well as why it is not always in their best interest to act on their impulses. Like all Tritypes with 8, they can remember that ‘their’ truth is not always ‘the’ truth. And, that knowing their truth, even if they are right, does not mean that they have to immediately tell people their truth all of the time. They can learn to recognize that they will feel far more empowered and serve the greater good when they discover when it is better not to speak their truth.
The 468 needs to remember that not everyone sees or responds to the threats they perceive in the same manner… that the other Tritypes’ responses are also important biological imperatives. And, that the other Tritypes do not feel the same sense of urgency over the same issues because they are tracking different imperatives.
468s benefit from remembering that it takes all types. And, that another’s lack of emotional response may be the diversity required to have a balanced and more satisfactory outcome to a problem. It is also helpful for the 468 to remember that others have their own life journey and may need to make their own mistakes to learn what is important. Most people know when they have overreacted and do not need any one to remind them.
When the 468s learn that their view of reality while valid, does not mean it will be the reality of others, they will begin to feel more at ease with others’ lack of reactivity. When they can accept these different views of reality they will be able to accept the lessons that are frustrating to 'Truth Tellers' such as patience. Even though they see things with such intense clarity it is often not their duty to call it off. Sometimes the 259 tritype that says wait and see might reveal additional information that may be more effective in the long run.
Self-Inquiry
The most important question ‘truth tellers’ can ask themselves is - "What is my emotional need?” “What is my underlying motive for 'warning' others and why do I need them to agree with my point of view to relax?"
Reflection
468s sincerely believe that they are voicing what others should know and do. Upon reflection, the 468s can identify the fears they were experiencing when they dramatically expressed their views, and/or had an emotional outburst. They can then examine the situation with fresh eyes rather than trying to convince others of their viewpoint. Reemphasizing their initial concerns is a clue that the 468s are still in fear are not letting go. With insight, they can learn to accept the outcome following an emotional situation by tending to their own unmet needs they disowned. With acceptance and ease in relating, like the natural state of the 279, they can begin to feel comfortable regardless of whether or not others agree with them.
Instead of continuing to press others to validate their point of view, 468s can learn to self-soothe by trusting what is. When the 468 comes from a place of essence they no longer need others to see what they see and will not feel distress when others do not see the circumstances in the same way. They will be able to experience other people's lack of action as simply a truth of a different bias. They will be able to let go even though it may seem 'counter-intuitive' to a truth teller.
Blind Spots
Subjective truth and over reactivity are the blind spots of the 468s. And the growing edge for ‘truth tellers’ is learning to let go by having faith in others and a power greater than their own (6), realizing that their truth may not be 'the' truth (8) and letting go emotionally rather than intensifying feelings (4). It is only by letting go of their position that 468s will feel a sense of inner peace.
This truth is very challenging for the high-strung and emotionally intuitive 468s because they value transparency. The key is for them to see it that they do not see themselves the way others see them and that they are just as transparent to others. They can learn a great deal about themselves by listening to what others have to say about them.
Dominant type leading the 468
648,684
These Tritypes with type 6 leading are paradoxical. Ironically the 6s with this Tritype are the most hyper-reactive but they are still tentative and apprehensive. Their mental projections can make their reactions very confusing to others. They may at times show their anxiety and look timid and in need of support and at other times they can be so intensely assertive and provocative that their needs go unseen. The high side of these Tritypes is that they are extremely devoted and dutiful to those to whom they are attached. They are very loyal and protective.
468,486
These Tritypes with type 4 leading are the most emotionally intense Tritype. The 4 ‘passion for protest’ with the 6 doubt and the fear of being mislead combined with the 8 fear of being powerless makes these 4s appear very 8ish. They are very sensitive and emotional but are also extremely expressive and argumentative. These 4s have powerful emotions and a great need to express themselves which is why they can appear even more 8ish that the 8s. They are fiercely loyal and lovingly protective of those to whom they are attached.
864,846
These Tritypes with type 8 leading are very intense and definitive. Ironically, these Tritypes with 8 leading are softer than the 4 and 6 with this Tritype. The 4’s emotional sensitivity and the 6’s need to engage cause these 8s to demonstrate fierce devotion as well as fierce opposition. These 8s are very outspoken and easily call off their truth. They are quick to anger but are just as quick to get over it. Due to the 4 in these Tritypes these 8s are more tenderhearted and emotionally sensitive than say the 863 that is more driven to succeed by not expressing the emotions that can slow the 8 down.
Working with a 468
The 468s are meant to sound the alarm. They are the most emotionally intense Tritype. They are not trying to be too much. They are trying to protect those in their world. Remember that even though they have 8 in the Tritype, they have trouble self-soothing. They need to learn how to internalize their own trusted authority to let go of their need to convince others of their viewpoint. When triggered, they are in red alert and are asking to be heard and validated so that they can calm down. Remember that no matter how much the 468s are over-reacting, there is always some truth in what they are saying. Also remember that what the 468s are saying is that they need to know that you have heard them and have validated their concerns. Most of all, they are saying that they need your help to restore a sense of inner calm. If you can help them to remember to have faith in whatever happens they will find their own sense of equanimity.
;p
I have went through more interviews and shows of his and have arrived at the conclusion I was mistaken – he is actually 3w4.
Eh, I am pretty sure Adam is 4w3 Sx/Sp.
But I guess that's just me.
I mistook his exaggerated Type 4 stage presence or "mask" as his "real self".
In the "What Do You Want From Me"-Era he was really playing up his 4 wing. Looking at the music video, you'd guess he is representing a frustrated 4w3. In a way, that was actually just a persona.
I find it rare for people to impersonate a Type 4 like that. That is probably why I thought it was actually his type.
Having said that, I am still convinced he is Sx/Sp. Many people have this view of Sx/Sp as being "antisocial", but they are actually painfully aware of sticking out at times.
Being Synflow, they have the desire to be part of the "flow", the mainstream to some degree. Not literally the mainstream culture, but something along those lines.
Ironically, Sx/So is often times more deliberately "antisocial" than Sx/Sp, because they deliberately swim "against the stream", being contraflow and socially aware and whatnot.
(When Sx/Sp "sticks out" unfavorably, it is usually an un-calculated event – more of a "mistake". For example, in Adam's case that was the moment he suddenly kissed the male musician on stage during his MMA performance. A classic Sx/Sp mistake. He did not expect such a negative response to that kind of thing. As far as I know, he apologized for it, and was confused over the fact people took it so badly. An Sx/So or So/Sx person would have been aware of the fact that two guys kissing like that on Live TV is not really socially acceptable in the U.S. So, if an SP blindspot person would have done a similar action, it would have been a political statement on their part. Adam was not really trying to achieve this, he was only looking to "entertain" his audience without any political agenda, which is rather Sx/Sp in this context – and SEE.)
Being Synflow, Sx/Sp Ethical types can be quite appeasable in certain social situations, trying to fit in more or less, and by doing so seem more So/Sx-like than they really are.
All in all, Adam Lambert is most likely 3w4 Sx/Sp SEE-Fi (IMO).
Thanks for those people who pointed out he is not actually Type 4.
It was a good learning experience for me to go through this.
You str8 women are kinda making 4s out to be this caricature of the guy you'd never sleep with, some narcissistic beret wearing fag with no complex humanity - its like the very essence of homosexuality in pure demonic form with no other integral parts. You're allowed to criticize it because it's at it's core an illusion. Faggy men like me and Adam deserve being mistaken for 4s though for karmic reasons - because you guys appear to others in the same over the top fashion when a cruel bad boy comes into the room. Even though we all cry about how we're complex people and not one thing- the faggy artistic narcissism of the 4 really stands out.
The relationship between Robert "Bob" Ford played by Casey Affleck and Jesse James played by Brad Pitt in Assassination of Jesse James was a keen portrayal of 4w3-8w7 relations, particularly in the end when Robert says that he was expecting applause.
http://fmovies.to/film/the-assassina...bert-ford.9230
I used to listen to this band so much when I was younger, and I just realized this song is so incredibly 4. I tried to translate some of it.
4w3-5w6-8w7
Found this text on Tumblr by a girl called Martina (21). Strikes me as a rather unhealthy level of e4.
"Do you ever feel like you’re missing out on so much just because of being who you are and not someone else? Whenever I see a beautiful girl I wonder how it must feel to be that beautiful and if I’ll ever feel like that. Or when I see someone who’s confident and extroverted and I imagine how nice and easy it must be to be that way. Or when I see someone that’s my age who has already accomplished so much or been in so many places and experienced so many things, I can’t help but feel like time is falling from my hands like sand and I’m not getting better or going anywhere. I grew up watching movies and reading stories that made me believe that life was supposed to be constantly exciting and I haven’t felt that way many times and I just feel so stuck being myself. I wish I could be someone else for a while."
Could be, or a 9. Doesn't seem THAT unhealthy. But average.
I'd agree that this is not too unhealthy and rather around the average health level.
I do think it is Type 4, though. There are the typical signs of the Type 4 envy in there, I bolded those.
I'd say this is a good example of a (likely Social) Type 4 around the Health Level 5.
(Healthy: 1-3, Average: 4-6, Unhealthy: 7-9)
Personally, I can relate to this quote pretty well, I've felt like this too at times.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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