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    This was written immediately after the first world war. I think it sums up the aftermath perfectly.


    Through the obscure depths of history we could make out the phantoms of great ships laden with riches and intellect; we could not count them. But the disasters that had sent them down were, after all, none of our affair.

    Elam, Ninevah, Babylon were but beautiful vague names, and the total ruin of those worlds had as little significance for us as their very existence. But France, England, Russia...these too would be beautiful names. And we see now that the abyss of history is deep enough to hold us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Johnson
    No man will be a sailor who has contrivance enough to get himself into a jail; for being in a ship is being in a jail, with the chance of being drowned... a man in a jail has more room, better food, and commonly better company.
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    "He listened gravely to the discussion of possible danger, but in truth, he paid little heed. Silvanoshei was young, and the young know they will live forever."

    I want to know
    if you know
    how to melt into that fierce heat of living
    falling toward
    the center of your longing


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    “I love you as certain dark things are to be loved,
    in secret, between the shadow and the soul.”

    Pablo Neruda
    Emotions change colour by the way (how) they are placed.

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    Antonius Block: I want to confess as best I can, but my heart is void. The void is a mirror. I see my face and feel loathing and horror. My indifference to mankind has shut me out. I live now in a world of ghosts, a prisoner in my dreams.

    Death: And yet you do not want to die?

    Antonius Block: Yes, I do.

    Death: What are you waiting for?

    Antonius Block: I want knowledge.

    Death: You want a guarantee.

    Antonius Block: Call it what you like. Is it so terribly inconceivable to comprehend God with one's senses? Why does He hide in the midst of half-promises and unseen miracles? How are we to believe the faithful when we don't believe ourselves? What will happen to those of us who want to believe, but can not? What about those who neither want to nor can believe? Why can't I kill God within me? Why does He live on in me in a humiliating way - despite my wanting to evict Him from my heart? Why is He, in spite of it all, a mocking reality I can't get rid of? Do you hear me?

    Death: I hear you.

    Antonius Block: I want knowledge! Not faith, not assumptions, but knowledge. I want God to stretch out His hand, uncover His face and speak to me.

    Death: But he remains silent.

    Antonius Block: I call out to Him in the darkness. But it's as if no one was there.

    Death: Perhaps there isn't anyone.

    Antonius Block: Then life is a preposterous horror. No man can live faced with Death, knowing everything's nothingness.

    Death: Most people think neither of death nor nothingness.

    Antonius Block: But one day we will all stand at the edge of life and face darkness.

    Death: Yes, that day.

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    TO A SPHINX

    You are like the mollusc in chilly ponds
    where sunbeams never get.
    She never creeps out from her shell,
    her prison she cannot forget,
    she can only hide
    her deepest essence
    and dream of exploits great
    among the waterweed,
    but never wholly
    and undividedly
    empty herself into word or deed.

    With irony your speech full spills.
    You try to cover
    with pretended cold
    life's warmth that inside dwells.
    But your voice trembles,
    is strangely weak,
    A blush hovers
    behind each pale cheek.
    A sea of fire burns
    in a secret place
    that no one knows,
    no one can trace.

    You are too frail and too weak and tame
    for all the discords that sever:
    to wear armour you must endeavour
    in life's hard-handed game.
    You are like the mollusc in chilly ponds
    that never creeps out of her shell,
    so unattainable,
    so incomprehensible,
    that no one will near you, ever.

    - Karin Boye (1932)

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    THE MASTER

    No more harsh words
    about broken violins!
    I once heard the Master play
    on just two strings.
    He stood among the trees
    and played on His darling instrument,
    anthem after anthem, poem after poem,
    crystallized pain,
    and I realized:
    That violin was me!
    Others would not have considered me worthy
    but in His hands I was enough!

    - Bo Setterlind

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    The Law for the Wolves

    "NOW this is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky,
    And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.

    As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk, the law runneth forward and back;
    For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

    Wash daily from nose tip to tail tip; drink deeply, but never too deep;
    And remember the night is for hunting and forget not the day is for sleep.

    The jackal may follow the tiger, but, cub, when thy whiskers are grown,
    Remember the wolf is a hunter—go forth and get food of thy own.

    Keep peace with the lords of the jungle, the tiger, the panther, the bear;
    And trouble not Hathi the Silent, and mock not the boar in his lair.

    When pack meets with pack in the jungle, and neither will go from the trail,
    Lie down till the leaders have spoken; it may be fair words shall prevail.

    When ye fight with a wolf of the pack ye must fight him alone and afar,
    Lest others take part in the quarrel and the pack is diminished by war.

    —Rudyard Kipling

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    The yes-man in the mirror now says no,
    No longer will I answer you with lies.
    The light descends like snow, so when the snow-
    man melts, you will know him by his eyes.

    The yes-man in the mirror now says no.
    Says no. No double negative of pity
    Will save you now from what I know you know:
    These are your eyes, the cinders of your city.

    William Jay Smith, A Note on the Vanity Dresser

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    From Hamlet:

    PLAYER QUEEN
    The instances that second marriage move
    Are base respects of thrift, but none of love.
    A second time I kill my husband dead
    When second husband kisses me in bed.
    PLAYER KING
    I do believe you think what now you speak,
    But what we do determine oft we break.
    Purpose is but the slave to memory,
    Of violent birth, but poor validity,
    Which now, like fruit unripe, sticks on the tree,
    But fall, unshaken, when they mellow be.
    Most necessary ’tis that we forget
    To pay ourselves what to ourselves is debt.
    What to ourselves in passion we propose,
    The passion ending, doth the purpose lose.
    The violence of either grief or joy
    Their own enactures with themselves destroy.
    Where joy most revels, grief doth most lament.
    Grief joys, joy grieves on slender accident.
    This world is not for aye, nor ’tis not strange
    That even our loves should with our fortunes change.
    For ’tis a question left us yet to prove,
    Whether love lead fortune, or else fortune love.
    The great man down, you mark his favorite flies.
    The poor advanced makes friends of enemies.
    And hitherto doth love on fortune tend,
    For who not needs shall never lack a friend,
    And who in want a hollow friend doth try,
    Directly seasons him his enemy.
    But, orderly to end where I begun,
    Our wills and fates do so contrary run
    That our devices still are overthrown.
    Our thoughts are ours, their ends none of our own.
    So think thou wilt no second husband wed,
    But die thy thoughts when thy first lord is dead.

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    Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -The Tempest, William Shakespeare

    The irrationality of a thing is no argument against its existence, rather a condition of it. -Friedrich Nietzsche

    Only the mob and the elite can be attracted by the momentum of totalitarianism itself. The masses have to be won by propaganda. -Hannah Arendt


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    “If you wouldn't go to someone for advice, don't take their criticism either.”

    -compassionatereminders via tumblr

    read it a while back, but it has stuck with me
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    “A sparrow, mating with its echo, bred a fledgling music. I was no one’s bride.


    Who knows why summer broke my heart that year?”


    — Melissa Green
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    ♍︎ 𝓋𝒾𝓇𝑔𝑜 𝓇𝒾𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 ♍︎

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    Deep in the heart of summer,
    sweet is life to me still,
    But my heart is a lonely hunter
    that hunts on a lonely hill.

    - William Sharp

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    Magic will not free itself from occultism until we have strangled the last astrologer with the guts of the last spiritual master.

    Pete Carroll
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ―Thucydides

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    In spite of all the refinements of civilization that conspired to make art--the dizzying perfection of the string quartet or the sprawling grandeur of Fragonard's canvases--beauty was savage. It was as dangerous and lawless as the earth had been eons before man had one single coherent thought in his head or wrote codes of conduct on tablets of clay. Beauty was a Savage Garden.

    Anne Rice, The Vampire Lestat
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    “A sparrow, mating with its echo, bred a fledgling music. I was no one’s bride.


    Who knows why summer broke my heart that year?”


    — Melissa Green
    I've yet to know what kind of writing is this, but I like this kind of sentimentality in writing, like when the writer describes the situation they are in, then gives a seemingly unrelated thought that actually speaks a lot about why they are now in this current situation. It's almost like a cry for closure or expression of regret after reliving the past and see it progress in your head until the current moment, and realizing that there's no more going back. Well, that's how I experience it in my head when I say things like that anyway. Maybe the swing from past to present is Ni? I wonder if the writer (or should I say, the character) experienced the same thing too.

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    “I hate that nothing can be done about the suffering of children, and that most of the world blocks out their suffering to cope with their own inability to help. The few who carry the burden, like social workers and teachers, become weary, burning out after only a few short years, forced to carry the weight that should be shared by a society. Children are vastly overlooked. Their importance underestimated by their size.” ― Tarryn Fisher, Marrow

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    Future ages will produce further great advances in this realm of culture, probably inconceivable now, and will increase man’s likeness to a god still more. But with the aim of our study in mind, we will not forget, all the same, that the human being of today is not happy with all his likeness to a god.

    Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ―Thucydides

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    “Fighting evil by moonlight,
    winning love by daylight,
    never running from a real fight,
    she is the one named Sailor Moon!”

    - Naoko Takeuchi

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    The cynicism that regards hero worship as comical is always shadowed by a sense of physical inferiority.

    Yukio Mishima, Sun and Steel
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ―Thucydides

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    “Anyone can saw a woman in half. The hard part is sitting with both halves at breakfast, asking one to pass the salt and the other to lick your wounds.”
    — Andrea Cohen

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    “What is armor after all but a cage that moves with you?”
    — Rebecca Solnit

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    The very magic of writing, its selectivity, if we can put it that way, later destroys the spontaneity of remembrance.
    In a way, the same thing happens to you as when you tell a story again and again. Soon you are only "making small talk". Your story has turned into a polished performance. And all its details, each one tested by rehearsal, become rooted in place, yielding no room to any others.

    I don't know about other people, but I'm against the notebook.
    Viktor Nekrasov . Both Sides of the Ocean [1964]

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    Sometimes we may even find that fantasy can transcend truth and make things more meaningful!!
    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDemonSheep96 View Post
    ILI, lol? Video seems to depict Ni imagery (Ni<->Si). Yet you seem to have plenty of Ne that spins from Ni vacuum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Sometimes we may even find that fantasy can transcend truth and make things more meaningful!!
    Are you from typology central?
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ―Thucydides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlier View Post
    Are you from typology central?
    I had some of the best moments of My life there before My Bunny project got Me kicked off of the forum.

    But I Love Bunny. She entangles brilliant legacies and precursors to a paradise far beyond Imaginings!!
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    “I never seemed to like the spring for what it was; I always loved it for what it might have been. In the head. In the heart of hearts. It is in my ability, I think, to love something fully only if I am naturally, compulsively, irrationally drawn to it.”

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    I painted her a gushing thing,
    With years about a score;
    I little thought to find they were
    A least a dozen more;
    My fancy gave her eyes of blue,
    A curly auburn head:
    I came to find the blue a green,
    The auburn turned to red.

    She boxed my ears this morning,
    They tingled very much;
    I own that I could wish her
    A somewhat lighter touch;
    And if you ask me how
    Her charms might be improved,
    I would not have them added to,
    But just a few removed!

    She has the bear's ethereal grace,
    The bland hyaena's laugh,
    The footstep of the elephant,
    The neck of a giraffe;
    I love her still, believe me,
    Though my hear its passion hides;
    "She's all my fancy painted her,"
    But oh! how much besides!

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    And when the hourglass has run out, the hourglass of temporality, when the noise of secular life has grown silent and its restless or ineffectual activism has come to an end, when everything around you is still, as it is in eternity, then eternity asks you and every individual in these millions and millions about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    I had some of the best moments of My life there before My Bunny project got Me kicked off of the forum.

    But I Love Bunny. She entangles brilliant legacies and precursors to a paradise far beyond Imaginings!!
    You're the schizo I remember. I was there for a few years. Went by "Within" back then.
    "The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools." ―Thucydides

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    We must never forget that we may also find meaning in life even when confronted with a hopeless situation, when facing a fate that cannot be changed. For what then matters is to bear witness to the uniquely human potential at its best, which is to transform a personal tragedy into triumph, to turn one's predicament into a human achievement. When we are no longer able to change a situation - just think of an incurable disease such as inoperable cancer - we are challenged to change ourselves...

    But let me make it perfectly clear that in no way is suffering necessary to find meaning. I only insist that meaning is possible even in spite of suffering - provided, certainly, that the suffering is unavoidable. If it were avoidable, however, the meaningful thing to do would be to remove its cause, be it psychological, biological or political...

    There are situations in which one is cut off from the opportunity to do one's work or enjoy one's life; but what can never be ruled out is the unavoidability of suffering. In accepting this challenge to suffer bravely, life has a meaning up to the last moment, and it retains this meaning literally to the end. In other words, life's meaning is an unconditional one, for it even includes the potential meaning of unavoidable suffering...
    Viktor Frankl . Man's Search for Meaning [1946]

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    “Nothing tender about it—I show the darker powers I’ve hardly shown to anyone: Feel the weight of them, I say, before putting them back, just behind my heart, where they blacken and thrive.”
    — Carl Phillips, The Darker Powers

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    "Sometimes... expensive things... are worse." -Freckle
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    The knowledge of all things is possible. - Leonardo da Vinci
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    “THE MAGIC OF EXISTENCE IS THAT I CAN BE INSPIRED & DEPRESSED AT THE SAME TIME. THAT I CAN HAVE FAITH & ALSO QUIETLY MAKE PLANS. THAT I CAN FALL & BE FALLEN UPON IN THE SAME BREATH. THAT I CAN BE IN LOVE & FEEL COLDER THAN I HAVE EVER FELT. THAT I CAN SEE A DEER & THINK OF YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY.”
    — Eleanor Eli Moss

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    take risks for huge rewards since failure in a future timeframe is inevitable without trying
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    ILI, lol? Video seems to depict Ni imagery (Ni<->Si). Yet you seem to have plenty of Ne that spins from Ni vacuum.


    The 24 INTP (<- that is Ni.)

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    Who is the real subject of most love poems? Not the beloved. It is the hole. When I desire you, a part of me is gone: my want of you partakes of me. So reasons the lover at the edge of eros. The presence of want awakens in him nostalgia for wholeness. His thoughts turn toward questions of personal identity: he must recover and reincorporate what is gone if he is to be a complete person. […] Most people find something disturbingly lucid and true in Aristophanes’ image of lovers as people cut in half. All desire is for a part of oneself gone missing, or so it feels to the person in love.

    Anne Carson, Eros the Bittersweet: An Essay.

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